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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> f everyone were to come by car. << the city as we know it is before that a creation of the "not everyone's invited" principle.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
trinque: probably as some tacit matter of policy
mats: 21:49:57 <+asciilifeform> ... the nuance here is that the city as we know it is fundamentally a creation of mass transport. as in, you would have to demolish almost all of new york or london to park cars, if everyone were to come by car. << you ever been to LA?
asciilifeform: they, apparently, do not have (or are moving in the direction) such a thing as 'family sits down for dinner'
asciilifeform: (or 'crisps' as they are called there)
asciilifeform: so long as you don't need to exist for more than a decade or three
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260453 << the nuance here is that the city as we know it is fundamentally a creation of mass transport. as in, you would have to demolish almost all of new york or london to park cars, if everyone were to come by car. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260473 << as if this helped on airplane ☝︎
asciilifeform: the way it works is that everyone eats the things they were raised to see as ordinary, and at each particular class, those appear cheap.
mircea_popescu: as orwell pointed out, stupid regulations always favour cockroaches.
mircea_popescu: to be noted, of course, that this "if you're poor enough to need to use our mnass transit, here is how you must sit" nonsense follows twenty-thirty years of "oh using cars is bad for the environment, when mass transit is just as good"
mats: mebbe i could move back to san jose and hope it survives as meta-cn
mats: i rather like living in the US northeast and would like to put off my migration into cn for as long as possible
mircea_popescu: (my own interpretation of reality being that china has decided there is no need of a us in the future, which would be implemented through a slow divestment so as to extract the maximal value possible out of their holdings. now that they've actually moved on it, they're not going to change course. which means 2010s are the last decade for the us.)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259992 >> i'm not even convinced he even for a second proposes that as factual. reads to me like alf's writing a novel in his spare time is all. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and i don't care how "raceis", "rapey" or whatever else the understanding of women as people is.
mircea_popescu: therre is no such thing as "creativity" in tech, and there's certainly no place for "women in tech" understood as monkeys.
mircea_popescu: reality may surprise and remain valid. thoughts may not. surprising thoughts are ipso facto invalid. which is why the destruction of engineering as an intellectual activity is covered in "creativity"
asciilifeform: but there are such things as double-entry bookkeeping, etc. which are reasonably traditional
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, if i were to say "the appearance of best business practices is proof positive business as a going concern is dead" you'd see what i mean
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform: ok thx... I was speaking generally to the atmosphere of the degenerate adult-fail of the contemporary populace in failing to take on their roles as mentors and superiors of the children, combined with these wretched inner-city armed guard metal detector ghetto schools...
mircea_popescu: im not making any claims as to value or quality, mind.
mircea_popescu: (this , incidentally, is a large reason why classic texts are so commonly misunderstood by the layman - such as for instance shakespeare by tolstoy. there exists this device where a is replaced by b with the expectation on the part of the writer that the reader notices the substitution and holds it meaningful
mircea_popescu: the fundamental driver being the stupid woman in question's inferiority complex. she knows she's filth and she knows actual people wouldn't give her idiocy the time of day. which is "resolved" in her mind as "of course what everyone spends ever ymoment doing is thinking about my stupid shit. yes that's right i'm that central"
pete_dushenski: as to spain proper, well, they still have a few museums of note, but other than that it's just doner kebab stands and beaches
pete_dushenski: shinohai: because as stupid as english-speakers are today, this hasn't always been the case. whereas spanish, as mircea_popescu points out, has always been the language of slaves.
pete_dushenski: no one better than colm wilkinson as valjean
mats: lol, dong inspection as proof of jewry
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259599 << i'm not, as it happens, though this is definitely the exception, at least at the 'reform' level (most secular) and in this part of the world. credit goes to my completely secular father for wanting to give me an alibi. y'know. just in case. ☝︎
mats: http://www.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-watches-as-chinese-navy-ships-sail-in-bering-sea-1441216258
mircea_popescu: ascii_field see basically, standard AS A THING even exist because
mircea_popescu: there is clearly a problem here. ideal objects (such as software) are not comensurate with physical objects. this attempt to "engineer programs like screws" was a reasonable first hack at the novel an dunexpected problem, ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but as far as software, and computer programming generally, standards are actually the proof positive engineering failed.
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 21:51:18; mircea_popescu: incidentally : bitcoin is, as is, both needlessly and too fucking complex.
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as you made some irc comments, no. i did look to see if your balance had magically vanished, which it had not.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : bitcoin is, as is, both needlessly and too fucking complex. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as you can imagine, both glorious timewasters.
ascii_field: which was astonishing, because debug.log ~does~ mention it (as linked earlier) - though it is not correlated temporally with your node's disconnects as seen on my end ☟︎
ascii_field: not as of this morning
ben_vulpes: regarding that ancient optimization of expenditures thread, in america the ceo will have to report his place of residence if purchased/rented by the company as income, correct asciilifeform, mircea_popescu?
ascii_field: as in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-09-2015#1259296 ☝︎
ascii_field: works just as great today as in 500 b.c.
mats: americans are fat as fuck, barely anyone these days can pass a BMI evaluation and run 2mi in reasonable time
ascii_field: as for 'willing', no shortage of dea/fbi/dhs/etc. goons today
BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> how do you want it so its not spammin chan? << stream as bz2 compressed xml
mats: kakobrekla: if you would parse that with assbot as 'empyex' and 'mpexbot' are nao defunct i'd be grateful
shinohai: I like your idea better ben_vulpes. Wife implies marriage and I sure as hell have had my lifetime dose of that.
ascii_field: remove .emacs-bufflst, .emacs-places, and, as last resort, remove (after backing up) .emacs
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 21:04:08; ascii_field: 'The absence of evidence shouldn’t be viewed as proof of guilt, but tell that to the U.S. federal court—where Khairullozhon Matanov received a 30-month sentence in mid-June, in part for deleting his browser history. Though he wasn’t an accomplice in the Boston bombing, the FBI charged that the friend of the Tsarnaev brothers with obstructing justice by destroying evidence in the case. That evidenc
ascii_field: 'Never in my wildest dreams would I have expected PayPal to accept screenshots from the seller, as proof of anything.'
assbot: Logged on 17-06-2015 14:03:35; asciilifeform: i, for one, only have a mechanical vacuum pump. it clatters, spits oil. would have looked at home in edison's house. i know that i will not be making so much as a triode valve with this pump.
kakobrekla: convincing fake = looks same on pic as original ?
asciilifeform: on same equipment as in '80s and prior.
assbot: Kuwait event plays Borat parody as Kazakhstan national anthem - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NacJL2 )
mircea_popescu: Nowadays, I believe, bed-wetting in such circumstances is taken for granted. It is a normal reaction in children who have been removed from their homes to a strange place. In those days, however, it was looked on as a disgusting crime which the child committed on purpose and for which the proper cure was a beating."
funkenstein_: as I haven't reread any Tolstoy in German or Russian, I must withhold comment
fluffypony: By any other name would smell as rotten;
kakobrekla: the chinese on the other hand, go as 'low' as faking the current tube production lines.
mircea_popescu: merits–thereby distorting their aesthetic and ethical understanding–is a great evil, as is every untruth."
cazalla: http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/film-tv/8782/daniel-craig-interview/ "What does it say, too, that Bond is a fantasy figure for a Britain that no longer exists, an Imperial warrior who satisfies the rest of our vicarious appetites – no longer as easily fulfilled as they once were – to travel to exotic locations, execute the natives and then have sex with their women?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as part of the perennial hate of ru in ro, "Shura-Bura" is how you say "utter nonsense"
punkman: hmm, guess I misremember as working on linux
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally it occurs to me - one theory that'd very well fit the soviet ibm insanity would be, "the captive thief". ie, a guy so enamoured with the idea that "this calculator is hot (ie, stolen)" that he'll gladly expend $1500 to get a shitty pocket calculator, instead of $1100 to get a 10x as powerful desktop.
mircea_popescu: in that sense might as well just endorse your paycheck to obama and forgetdaboutit
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1259321 << IRS treats expenditure optimization frequently the same as "structuring" and other not crimes that are somehow crimes. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259507 << pretty much nobody else is showing any symptoms of having an idea as to ~what~ they are buying into. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "progress" means, smaller contingents of anything useful as time goes by.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not replenishable because the natural rate of decay through aging is negative. ie, su shittifies like everything. if in 2000 it could produce 0.0001% of population, in 2020 it can produce only 0.0000965%. as population itself declines, the natural size of the thing shrinks. 10k in 2000, 9972 in 2001 etc.
asciilifeform: ^ as seen in ancient logz.
asciilifeform: as in, seriously argued that no one must take the revelations into account
pete_dushenski: "As noted above it was an extraordinary claim, yet it was accepted instantly without checking it. This had the effect of destroying the credibility of the IPCC and the previously respected publication Nature."
mircea_popescu: ru denials are about as good as us denials.
asciilifeform: (the one concerning isis-as-junkyard-dog-of-usg hypothesis)
asciilifeform: when it 'would not do' to lose a lawsuit, or so much as permit one to be heard, they invoke sovereign privilege and that's that.
mod6: (19:17) <+ben_vulpes> mod6 probably has his own as well. << mine is basically a by hand list. it really needs some attention/tlc. I gotta get something more structured.
mircea_popescu: the poor usg how it only wanted to restore peace and democracy to those poor iraquians, beleaguered by corrupt officials and tyrannycal despotism as they were, and then this capitalist concern of evil capital came and abused the entire good will of the people of usia and their elected representatives.
mircea_popescu: (in kbr's case, it's not that they're stupid, it's that they were raped. the classic "we provide indemnity so now you may not not break the law as we tell you to" trick. "key is in your pocket" in legal parlance) ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, suggestion is not intended as the correct solution. more like send kill -HUP -> system goes into an hour long snapshot state
asciilifeform: hanbot: these are not 'holes' as such, in that i was aware of them from hour 0.
assbot: Logged on 01-09-2015 22:21:22; phf: asciilifeform: what about something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/154647, put a flag on sighup, put a couple of checks (i'm not sure if my guess as far as mainloop is correct) for the flag, do a stop the world snapshot. can have it running normally, periodically send kill -HUP ...
ben_vulpes: mod6 probably has his own as well.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258779 << i'm aware of "tx dumper" as a TODO item that alf gives a shit about and that's more or less all. everything else is in his and mircea_popescu's heads. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: he also fought entrenched interests, and they won. as they do.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-09-2015#1258703 << he fought the law, foolishly, and the law won. as it does. ☝︎
phf: asciilifeform: what about something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/154647, put a flag on sighup, put a couple of checks (i'm not sure if my guess as far as mainloop is correct) for the flag, do a stop the world snapshot. can have it running normally, periodically send kill -HUP ... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so no, microbes can not be used as substitute for your original " usg will happily carpetbomb own subjects if it needs to." specifically because that one chief ingredient is missing.
ascii_field: i mean, it was happily spreading microbes in own cities, as early as '60s
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2015 22:07:54; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the llvm thing, prior to career as apple crud, had a previous life as a darling plaything of u.s. 'comp sci' academitardia
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2015 21:43:42; asciilifeform: 'but Richard is seemingly frightened about the compiler competition from LLVM that is out under a permissive free software license.' << fud artist lies through his teeth. rms is not 'frightened of competition under permissive licenses', but is pointing out that organized attack by shitgnomes flying (as always) flags of convenience, is under way.
mircea_popescu: or to quote the webexperts in derpxertises, "The elephant in the room is that GCC and emacs aren't competing against proprietary compilers so much as they are against LLVM and clang. Whichever one has better features and support for programming is going to win mindshare and without mindshare you are dead. This is compounded by the fact that there are several major corporations helping LLVM along so you need steady cont
ascii_field: consider, flip so much as one bit in the product
ascii_field: thing is, it also needs to be rebuilt as discussed before, where it stores ~known factors of any given modulus~ in the db
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mircea_popescu: ascii_field go in as root, lock the db, dump it, unlock it.
mircea_popescu: the design as described is good, and it should be db-replicated
mircea_popescu: "I was amazed that they were able to persuade RMS not to block the conversion to C++, and as the article points out, five years of plugins have not led to disaster;"
mircea_popescu: "I recognize that you don't want me to "change the subject" to refactoring, but I don't see this as a change of subject."
mircea_popescu: the concept as intuited by gpg users is meaningless.
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:34:04; assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:44:05; ascii_field: i'm kinda curious why mircea_popescu considers a new key signed with a previous key to not be a logical continuation of the same identity. (is it because of the impossibility of hard-guaranteed revocation, as discussed in previous thread?)