asciilifeform: imho dispensing with 'files as a unit' is The Right Thing, rather than complicated graph walkers. but i'ma not replay the trinque thread.
asciilifeform: iirc his replacement still follows the ancient algo.
asciilifeform: ( in trinquian algo, it is impossible to create multiple paths to the same state without creating a cycle, and the latter are detected by the cycle finder )
asciilifeform: i suppose there is also the other variant, where manifest.txt actually gets speshul treatment. but imho that's ugly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the headache is from the fact of notion of 'file' having been baked quite firmly into unix patch util. the only 'final solution' presently known to asciilifeform for the entire class of topological ugh, is the trinquian cut.
asciilifeform: i was the loudest whine against the trinqueian algo, but then grasped the wisdom of it meself and actually wrote a working proggy for it
asciilifeform: but so far nobody seems to see it as dire enuff problem to actually resort to this
asciilifeform: it should still press tho ( into a broken proggy, but this is the fault of whoever forgot to unify the tree )
asciilifeform: the http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools picture suggests that it's the classic mistake of spuriously bifurcated tree, the kind of thing that had trinque & mircea_popescu raging in the old days and prompted manifest.txt etc
asciilifeform: one of those onboard mobo kvm-cum-sim-disk-cum-powertoggle-etc
asciilifeform: meanwhile, via #p, in re fritzisms : http://archive.is/YiLsi << '...separate Ethernet network connection and run a proprietary embedded server management technology that provides out-of-band management features... curl -H "Connection: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"' << hardcoded nsa pw.
asciilifeform: phf: are you in the midst of planting the thing on c101pa box?
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta like c compiler in the olden dayz.
asciilifeform: a Troo Eternal gnat oughta be able to build itself ad-infinitum, jumping archs as necessary
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly, but i haven't tested his pill yet ( iirc not yet published on his www )
asciilifeform: phf: ave1's item is pretty great, it resulted in tarballs containing working bins of amd64 and arm64 gnat; the latter worx great on my desk rockchip. the only item that dunwork of yet is the repeat of said process ~on~ arm64 (to crossbuild amd64 gnat there)
asciilifeform: phf: as discussed in the recent diana_coman thread, if you want systemwide musl-anythings, gotta have a pure musl box.
asciilifeform: phf: only on a system where the systemwide crapola is traditional (glibc) and your musl item is a homedir-local build, a la rotor.
asciilifeform: and quite correctly, you cannot link these with anything that it itself did not build.
asciilifeform: it's a musltronic build, like rotor. so it builds absolutely errything that is needed for a working static elf-outputting gnat.
asciilifeform: phf: ave1's recent breakthrough was specifically this -- a rotor-style cross-compile process that takes an existing amd64 gnat, and builds a particular other gnat for whatever arch
asciilifeform: it aint as if they dun know how to generate rando key to go with spamola rando luser acct tho.
asciilifeform: sadly i dun have 'the genuine figs', all i got is this.
asciilifeform: or hm, nm, closer look shows 395480 old mods; they ended up (correctly) marked for retest by asciilifeform's ancient logic
asciilifeform: per above, we get the astonishing find that, since 2016 , all but 498 lusers either: a) got booted from shithub or b) swapped key
