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sbp: asciilifeform: how did you find SEdit? I have only spoken to one friend who used the Interlisp-D machine, and I don't think he said anything about SEdit
sbp: there isn't much about it on the web now. I think I found a single PDF describing it in detail!
sbp: also, I don't know if you remember, but the Interlisp-D machine had a program called SEdit
sbp: I'm the Alert Reader from Loper 1361. we don't know one another outside of that, sorry!
sbp: I hope it didn't exceed https://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/most-positive-bignum/
sbp: the joke that most historians neglect to mention is that it didn't apply to slaves
asciilifeform: Apr 14 13:09:53 <trinque>what, you don't think the best and brightest work at the NSA, I mean the subcontractor for the NSA, I mean the sub-sub... << my current understanding is that 'best and brightest' don't actually work anywhere, they sit in arkakao and eat ice cream with mircea_popescu et al
trinque: what, you don't think the best and brightest work at the NSA, I mean the subcontractor for the NSA, I mean the sub-sub...
asciilifeform: (i don't recall seeing any ssltronics in the src that was linked here)
phf: yeah, but the bot explicitly doesn't reconnect, because i don't want to lose messages and introduce continuity break. perhaps i should just do that as a "good enough" measure, but i want to just write a communicating-multi-bot setup over the weekend
phf: i apologize for downed log, everything's operational, but my backup logs are on a secure machine, that i can't access from mobile. log will be back at 2pm EST
mircea_popescu: so : it's true that i don't have to keep the proceeds. it is not however true they're free money.
mircea_popescu: my idea is that while it's true that the proceeds from house bets shouldn't be counted against the shareholders - it is at the same time the actual sum of those bets as made should count as a credit for me.
davout: since the last statement there weren't any house bets made amirite
mircea_popescu: now why the fuck doesn't this match that ;/
mircea_popescu: why aren;t you sleeping again ?
ben_vulpes: lol and lindsay anderson doesn't even give enough of a shit to put up anything other than a party pic
mircea_popescu: davout ok, so going through third report : as to note 2-3, so you took out 2.15+0.67314231 = 2.82314231 out of liabilities seeing how the house needn't pay itself, i reckon ? this makes sense.
mircea_popescu: at this rate the us army capital utilization efficiency can't be far behind.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i don't see him hunting and prepping any food.
asciilifeform: or did they add a zero to the wage while i wasn't looking
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i don't expect to ever relax. but currently exploring the idea of less-loathesome wurk << Seriously try Home Depot
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didn't some yc shartup purport to mechanize this?
asciilifeform: positioning divs won't pay for asciilifeformtronics.
asciilifeform: i don't expect to ever relax. but currently exploring the idea of less-loathesome wurk
ben_vulpes: do it with people who don't.
mod6: i can't imagine it is at all.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i suppose if you don't need error handling..
mod6: yeah, i can't seem to determine if they should be whitened if good rolling techniques are used. meaning, high friction surface, bounce off wall, shake in round & covered cup, etc.
mike_c: mod6: I am not an expert and haven't tested anything. simply word-on-the-street level info
mod6: yei don't care about the d100
mike_c: the point isn't the d100, the point is he makes fair dice
mircea_popescu: im starting to think actually shared sql may be a very sane and deeply correct way t ogo about things.
mircea_popescu: shouldn't be SUCH a fucking high bar, already.
mod6: i haven't missed a single day
shinohai: Thos #b-a logs are so large every day I can't read them all now.
phf: shinohai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs0Kq3M4idA&t=1m10s
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Sorry, that didn't take as long as I thought it would.
shinohai hasn't yet gotten so inebriated he chopped off an ear tho
diana_coman: jay borenstein, he's the initiator of Open Academy as far as I know (I don't know him personally)
diana_coman: I don't mean we should now explain how it is more interesting, more a statement of concrete points
mircea_popescu: in this sense no one could ever do anything. heck, i can't explain why roses are fun and enlightening either.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the tools aren't there to replace it yet.
mircea_popescu: well on one hand shoving it under door seems a miserable plan to me. if you can't say to some guy "hey, look into this!" prolly best not molest 'em
mircea_popescu: also very cheap gauge. no need to risk your head - if the working girls don't worship you, best stay in school.
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mircea_popescu: hey, last time euro dropped 1% in a day, you couldn't get out of the fucking "o noes europe is teh end" usg agitprop
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they only find out they don't agree through a before/after violation.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-08 20:36 mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37
asciilifeform: what there ~isn't~ and won't be is a unified planetary clock independent of the inca empire of the day...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451032 << nav satellites actually won't work at all unless they agree on 'what nanosecond IS IT NOW' globally - but notice, they gotta carry own clocks for this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't how mitm works. so what, mike_c gets fed bad data, and then we see it, and then what.
mircea_popescu: trinque> I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing << hey, i've been following your crusade from the foxhole, i dun see that it lost as of yet.
trinque: I am entirely willing to do a shitty thing that doesn't kill me while I am waiting for something else.
trinque: there are obvious problems that fall out of many programs diddling the same data concurrently, or users of different levels of access interacting with the same data model, or what happens when I didn't write all the damn data successfully, or... or...
trinque: I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing.
mircea_popescu: i still suspect there's a good reason this doesn't work tho.
mircea_popescu: at least temporarily, for as long as the usual fucktards don't "improve" sql to be more... "responsive"
mircea_popescu: hm. i wonder why this isn't more often done then ?
asciilifeform: certainly didn't rot in no office.
phf: wasn't lafond talking how the older he gets the more attention he gets
mod6: well, there's always "phreeee". but... just sayin, you don't need to spend $1k. $100 is a long way from $1000
phf: i personally know girls that charge the entire range from about 200 to 1500, they list on high end escort services, because they can pull it off, but they also list on various adultfinder variations, because that's a quick buck. i don't know what's the lowest they went for, i should ask, but this definitely doesn't work like "market forces"
asciilifeform: but because why doesn't the high-quality one charge moar
mircea_popescu: doesn't wear down with use.
asciilifeform: this sophism won't work better than all the previous ones either, l0l
mircea_popescu: the objection t oyour broken mental process isn't that you generalize unwarrantedly. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: besides the point. this strawman won't work any better than all the previous ones.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't MEAN anything.
mircea_popescu: isn't this what mistress is traditionally ?
mod6: i couldn't do it
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thinks i don't know how poorly this place is set up, haw
mircea_popescu: it'd be funny if it weren't literally exact.
mircea_popescu: i've been waiting for the idiocy to blow over ever since and it just fucking won't
mircea_popescu: this because 99% of people who currently own cars shouldn't own as much as a pocket knife.
asciilifeform: mats: but i can't really separate the reason for hating it from my hatred of working.
mats: i don't look forward to the prospect of marriage
mircea_popescu: mats don't ever get married ; it's like buying a cunt that sits unlubricated 99% of the time!
mats: if it weren't for uber i'd own a vehicle that sits unpowered 95% of the time
mats: i don't understand what kind of strategic advantage they see in this
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think cygwin translates syscalls, it was more of half-baked mingw
mats: i don't think so
mats: i'm curious what is going to happen with the syscalls that don't map cleanly
phf: freedesktop strategy is to create an abstraction layer on top of base tools that makes things "simpler", and then transparently switch the base. in this case value of gtk & sdl to wreckers is that they both operate on wayland already. sdl seems somewhat sane but i wouldn't be surprised if gnome deprecates their X support at some point ☟︎
shinohai: SO it appears the airbnb/changetip deal doesn't involve the changetip codebase.
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> I didn't figure out an angle for it, therefore left it to simmer on back burner. << maybe start writing, see if an angle emerges?
mircea_popescu: shinohai wasn't it 3 months ago ?
shinohai: I didn't figure out an angle for it, therefore left it to simmer on back burner.
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if anyone catches these folks, or the buyers, and pours molten copper down their necks
ben_vulpes: tisn't how things work in my part of the world.
phf: i haven't but i'll add it at some point soon. didn't have a bandwidth to hack on anything non-trivial
a111: Logged on 2016-04-12 05:55 ben_vulpes: more like "we don't make much over here, and you don't ride bikes, so i don't think this cult is for you"
punkman: I don't really like the sweet neem thing, definitely don't use it in currys
punkman: curry leaves are common in europe aren't they
mircea_popescu: in other news, i planted something that was supposed to be "curry", which i had nfi is even a plant wtf, isn't that a spice mix ?
phf: but none is the answer to why cmucl, and i don't think there's one. mostly why not? it's a question of discipline for me, can i move slow and not freak out against deficiencies. i think that "looking for silver bullet" is just a waste of time, and there's no way that i can possibly explore entire cmucl solution space, until a whole new set of base capabilities is required
mircea_popescu: i thought lisp exiosts so you don't "Get a hang somewhere"
asciilifeform: (if a lang runs on unix box and can't pthread it is a toy)
asciilifeform: cmucl won't invoke pthread and as such is not a finished product in my view.
mircea_popescu: ah ok, i didn't get what you were saying.