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asciilifeform: i was reading through cuntoo lens still.
asciilifeform: aaa
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834857 << hm i thought you were building eulora ~back end~ . or does even backend use opengl somehow. ☝︎
asciilifeform: vintage, '14 lulgem, cribbing '13 trilema.
asciilifeform: OfficiallyEndorsed by hitler!11 ( https://archive.is/wrqK2 )
asciilifeform: 'Hank Prunckun is associate professor of intelligence analysis at the Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security, Charles Sturt University, Sydney' blah etc.
asciilifeform: ( d00d, apparently, 'professional' doctrine/ops handbooks/etc spewer for usg )
asciilifeform: in other heathen wtf's, https://archive.is/Ovauh >> 'Covert radio communications: a viable tactic for international terrorists?'
asciilifeform: google et al not only gutted it, but arranged for the orig src to be buried in cement, for the obv reason.
asciilifeform: afaik it was the very last.
asciilifeform: aha, sorta why i had it lying around
asciilifeform: so yes you could run it. tho on x86/amd64 strictly, naturally, afaik there was never a build for arm etc
asciilifeform fires up box with opera 12.16 -- confirmed static
asciilifeform: commercial/closed binariolade 'for linux' will not run on cuntoo unless it was built statically, but prolly erryone realizes this.
asciilifeform: ( i assumed mircea_popescu was speaking of ye olde norwegian ministry of telecom or wherever 1MB closed x86 opera, rather than the 'modern' abortion )
asciilifeform: if not -- then guaranteed bomb
asciilifeform: i dun know much about ye olde closedsores opera -- if it was built statically, it oughta run on cuntoo
asciilifeform: i meant 'any'. afaik the only remaining graphical www thing that builds even on asciilifeform's ban-flagged gentoo ( not even speaking of musl ) is old firefox.
asciilifeform: will be interesting to put cuntoo on box with vga card and see if, for instance, any www browser can be made to run.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kernel mods dun use userland libc, so this should in principle not be affected by muslism
asciilifeform: plain x oughta suffice, for this.
asciilifeform: i can't picture anybody shedding a tear for gtk/kde/etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: [insert oblig emacs thread here]
asciilifeform: the 2 major ones i specifically recall in logs were 'screen' and emacs
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834764 << trinque do you have a list of items you observed to be broken under musl ? or is this still in the works ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: well they're both 'vintage 4.x'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw were you building with trinque's gcc or with ave1 's ?
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834774 << where was this ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834764 << oh hm trinque already tried postgres ? it barfed ? where ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834771 << from ~cold~ node it backs up as well as anything else . point was that i can't think of any good reason to do it that way, nodes ( correctly-built, i.e. with aggression ) are self-replicating reasonably quickly ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834762 << when i get own cuntoo test machine up, will test postgres also ( phuctor is currently baked on postgres, though in principle it would also work on mysql etc., simply never yet tried ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834755 << pretty interesting -- what proggy was this ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: you can approximate the effect with dumpblock/eatblock.
asciilifeform: i.e. at ~max speed permitted by the disk writes.
asciilifeform: ( if we had the 'configurable checkpoints thing' discussed 2y ago, this would sync in 3 days or so )
asciilifeform: a new node plugged directly in ( i.e. over lan ) to a working trb node, with 'aggression' should sync in week or 2.
asciilifeform: and whole concept of 'backing up trb' strikes me as wrongheaded -- the most effective backup is simply a 2nd node. ☟︎
asciilifeform: shinohai: i've found that trb state can't be effectively backed up without stopping the node ( otherwise indices turn to barf . ) how do you do yours ? periodic stops ?
asciilifeform: nas, rather
asciilifeform: nat is very much a 2edged sword, just 2 or 3 nat boxen with heavy use will saturate typical GB lan switch
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: shinohai: speaking of www, yours seems to be down just nao ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: didja bake own nat thing for it, or used the vendor's shitware ?
asciilifeform: stupidly expensive, too, for what they do.
asciilifeform: shinohai: afaik these all use 'software' raid
asciilifeform: incidentally, a miniature raid (i.e. harness 4 cheapo hdd to 1 usb3 cable) would be a very useful thing. which afaik unfortunately does not exist.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834717 << there's really not a substitute for 'screen' if you're leaving ~interactive~ cmd line processes in background (e.g. shells) , aha ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-15#1834721 << for comparison -- what was it like prior to 'aggression' ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: congrats
asciilifeform: re 'screen' -- funnily enuff for many yrs asciilifeform did not use it aside from as rs232 terminal a la 'kermit'; for the absolutely fucking vital item of 'leave my bg processes alone when i disconnect', used simply 'nohup', which comes with afaik errry unix since system5
asciilifeform tried it just nao, seems to work
asciilifeform: none, entomological curiosity.
asciilifeform: dunno, douchebag-style, bang on the door and exclaim 'why me' etc
asciilifeform idly wonders how long it'll take the drummed-out f-students to notice
asciilifeform: mega-logic...
asciilifeform: in his words, lol, 'I never did make it down for one of MP’s famous conferences, then he stopped having them a few years back. So wut do.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834531 << not long ago i peeked at d00d's www, it is full of ???. even attends shitcoin 'conferences' nao. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: d00d was a noxious twit for as long as i can remember
asciilifeform: https://archive.fo/LKTNN << in other recent lulz. guido van rossum (author of python) throws in the towel.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834523 << ack'd. ty BingoBoingo . ☝︎
asciilifeform: oh hey woodchipper day ☟︎
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: ( for old-worlders -- astonishing beast, can grow to german shepherd size, opposable thumbs unscrew jars, open doors... )
asciilifeform: 'virtual' hosters attract undesirable faux-nodes, like rubbish bins in usa attract raccoon
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834457 << ftr this is a ~very~ Bad Idea . for instance , i do not know in what starvation-cheapo hoster brazilish put his node, but if it was aws he will find that he cannot connect to ~any of the l1 folx's trb nodes, most people ban aws ip range whole ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: know what, yer right, i'ma let him dig.
asciilifeform: brazilish: fwiw my personal everyday-use node is a box the size of my fist, cost about 100 $ ( not incl. disk ) , runs off a 12v line
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-14#1834483 << just about anything with 2GB or more memory will work -- trb is not really cpu-bound . a 1TB disk will last you 3-5 yrs until fills. ideally ssd ( though the exact penalty from using mechanical disk is not yet known, see last night's thread ). if ssd -- i recommend samsung's, cheapo ssd typically burns after 1-2 yrs of trb wear. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( supposing diana_coman or trinque don't cure it first )
asciilifeform: life is pretty hard without 'screen', i'ma look at it as soon as i have own cuntoo going
asciilifeform: diana_coman: was mysql the only eulora component that misbehaved on musl ?
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: d00d survived the seven hells, fleas, brazilians.
asciilifeform: imho BingoBoingo is ideal for the job. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( as with the most recent one )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: standing up boxen, to the degree that it can be done telerobotically, is asciilifeform's .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had good point, in that if sane logging (i.e. with msec timestamps for everything) were standard, question could be answered immediately.
asciilifeform: mid 300s is iirc where the packed-to-the-gunwales 'stress test'(tm)(r) blox begin.
asciilifeform: lobbes: your node sounds like a good candidate for the timer patch (i.e. determine, why not syncs, is it block db delay, or it somehow gets nuffin from peers, or which.)
asciilifeform brb
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also then signal BingoBoingo to remove the kvm cables, the kvm box is in no real sense secure , having it plugged in for extended time is a small but definite liability
asciilifeform: ... spyked ?
asciilifeform: oh yes
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform: ... lobbes ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( i omitted diana_coman because presumably hands full, but whoknows... diana_coman ? ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc jurov already declined, as did mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: hanbot, davout ^ also
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year << for ref
asciilifeform: phf, trinque , danielpbarron ^ ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it really has to be a l1 person, and so far no takers.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we have a pretty serious shortage of skilled hands.
asciilifeform: aaaha.
asciilifeform eats bread made by-hand also.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in principle you can make just about anyffing by hand. in practice...
asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1832119 << recent thread on subj ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: lost atlantean tech...
asciilifeform: overcoat from 1970s, etc