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kanzure: i think the most mature construction was one that was solely about utxo set and/or blockchain content, not rule validation (besides: they could be running a fake client that solely does these rule validation protocols or whatever, and then they don't actually run a node in the end)
kanzure: yea you can prove that they are hashing a value of blocchain content (or doing rule validation) with the presence of a secret nonce, etc.
kanzure: well, i agree, however you can include a private key in the scheme, and if the user is outsourcing their private key they are dumb anyway
kanzure: so, i had a proposal a while back where i pushed that question to the edges instead of to the miners; e.g. a bitcoin address scheme where it requires interactive querying to determine whether the recipient is actually running a node (because why would you send coins to a monkey that isn't running the bitcoin protocol).
kanzure: they can have many invalid things, as long as they choose to broadcast the valid thing
kanzure: so, miners having a copy of an invalid blockchain is sort of irrelevant
kanzure: can you riterate the value of proving they have a copy of the blockchain. what you really need is a proof that everyone else has a copy of the blockchain (e.g. all utxo owners sign the damn content).
kanzure: one way i was thinking was something like, move the transaction merkle root out of the blockheader, eliminate the block header, full transaction list must be transmitted in order to verify PoW. unfortunately gmaxwell broke this in 3 seconds (because midstate).
kanzure: block content is actually not sufficient. even if you include a nonce (like a private key) plus the previous block content, you don't actually get what you need there in the sha3 proposal.
kanzure: e.g. vouch for various hard-forks
kanzure: you're asking me why miners would want a central organization to control bitcoin....?
kanzure: no i mean coercing me into saying things that i don't believe
kanzure: ya the miners were trying to propose a centralized organization.
kanzure: i am really, really illiterate. i live in a different world.
kanzure: is this yours. it says mpex.
kanzure: pdfparanoia strips the "YOUR IP ADDRESS IS 127.0.0.1" from the margins of pdfs.
kanzure: you'll have to find someone else to do as much
kanzure: and i said so on irc in 2013. and i think i doxxed her and now i kind of feel bad about that.
kanzure: i met her in 2010 at a harvard transhumanism conference. i recognized her profile pic (rotated) on a scihub site.
kanzure: so it turns out, i was the reason why she got doxxed
kanzure: i do not have a sample of yellow printer dots in academic papers to work from. if you have a sample, i'll be happy to debug that.
☟︎ kanzure: no just the ip address stuff
kanzure: so far the only form of 'resource allocation' that i can peg you down for is re: something something 'protection of friendlines from idiocy'
kanzure: i never asked to be listed there
kanzure: so yeah they did not have diligence until i showed up
kanzure: that was one month after i was onboarded
kanzure: (these are real-time transcripts. nobody has time to go back and type. i just do it in real-time.)
kanzure: it's a completely useless skill
kanzure: oh print the voucher on the rice? i've been doing it wrong i guess.
kanzure: they could even eat the vouchers if you'd like
kanzure: 10 billion food vouchers can be printed if you would like to shut them up the hilarious way
kanzure: bad abstract parse there. it ends half-way through.
kanzure: so just hoard a bunch of power and don't provide much signal regarding its application or likely application. is this some sort of gmaxwell-level fear of "unintentionally causing others to agree with you, by unethically signaling to them an idea that they shouldn't have had in the first place" bullshit?
kanzure: alright so the argument is that to whatever extent there's a modellable aspect, that's a failure mode and not necessarily a preference
kanzure: you could safely argue it would look like a plot of the sha256 function against a graph, but i would also be surprised to hear that
☟︎ kanzure: i'd settle for "observed tendencies or use of power that would probably fail without such power"
kanzure: it's just how i work, i internalize things
kanzure: i am trying to ascertain what you exercise power for
kanzure: you mean by (perhaps correctly) criticising everything right?
kanzure: you were arguing to me that directed effort is irrelevant (or something) so i'm trying to ascertain what your proposed alternative is
kanzure: i don't really care if it's "justified" by you, i care about correctly understanding
kanzure: that's sort of rude isn't it. wouldn't it be less total noise to just answer instead of either one of us wasting our time?
kanzure: if this knowledge only enables you to feel alright about whatever cause passes your fancy for the moment then i would argue you're engaging in a lot of effort for a rather trivial outcome.
kanzure: is "trying to figure out whether mircea_popescu is just babbling on a blog" also a "political act"?
kanzure: please clarify why apodicticity is not philosophical wankery
kanzure: "".. isn’t the only one working to clone a mammoth. There’s also Hwang Woo-suk’s Korean dog-cloning lab, Soaam Technologies [....] He was the one who claimed to clone human cells, but it turns out he had been forcing his students to donate their eggs, and secondly that his clone cells are fraudulent, so he’s trying to resurrect his reputation by being the first to clone ...
kanzure: no i just fed it to my bioreactor person to see what he would design for me. butyrylcholinesterase proposal will be forthcoming.
kanzure: "normally the left derives semantic authority from threats of mob violence/witch hunts; what does mircea_popescu have?"
kanzure: you insert the reagents at the start of the reaction, the polymerase is not a permanent component of the machine.
kanzure: asciilifeform: i rescued a silly open-source nanotech cad program from being deleted and forgotten. however, i did not fund its original development. is this the thing you're tlaing about?
https://github.com/kanzure/nanoengineer kanzure: anyway, the reason for "infeasibility" claims is because people try to do impossible things; there have not been infeasibility claims regarding genome synthesis or assembly.
kanzure: that pic was actually taken from a volunteer birdhouse assembly workshop
kanzure: and then lasercut plywood because we're all hipsters and our eyes don't bleed
kanzure: it's like adobe air + an arduino
kanzure: (openpcr actually isn't that cheap. it's sort of annoying.)
kanzure: yes and then people made cheapo thermocyclers. what's wrong with that?
kanzure: dna is relevant. production of synthetic dna is relevant and feasible, even if nobody promises you shakespearen genomes on day 1.
kanzure: no i'm still claiming your intel is broken
kanzure: well i'm not one to argue for inflated resources, sure
kanzure: asciilifeform: insufficient money i think. although this might be a bad reason. i could accept that. nobody calls me on this type of thing.
kanzure: authorities definitionally can't babble? show me how that works.
kanzure: mircea_popescu: your blog posts offer something yes. or are you just babbling for no reason?
kanzure: e.g. no knowledge of you spending millions on anything at all
kanzure: i'm not that far yet, i'm just saying "if your superpowers are limited to writing blog posts then i'm not sure what you have to offer"
kanzure: there's signal that provides information about negative results. that's not noise.
kanzure: so if your feasibility assessment is based on the stupid shit you've heard before, then that's understandable
kanzure: certain things are more feasible than others. and there's a lot of morons out there causing lots of noise.
kanzure: mircea_popescu: specifically do those causes just not interest you (health, lifespan, memory, gene therapy, etc), or is there some sort of confusion about actual feasibility, or what
kanzure: "productive results" in my book include cheap genome synthesis, the results of which are easily in reach (engineers haven't even bothered to optimize inkjet firing rate. "boo hoo it overheats and we haven't tried cooling").
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