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mircea_popescu: !!up avgjoe
mircea_popescu: you about ?
mircea_popescu: !!up zezizezi
mircea_popescu: !!up kittycollector
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: f9a75060
mircea_popescu: you here for teh titwriting ?
mircea_popescu: heya kittycollector
mircea_popescu: lobbes quite.
mircea_popescu adds "Gwenhwyfar ferch Ogrfan Gawr drwg yn fechan, gwaeth yn fawr." to the public record, now we even have welsh rhyming slang in here!
mircea_popescu: ain't nobody meeting her anywhere no mo.
mircea_popescu: this expectation that "if i go out to clubs enough, eventually i'll meet guyneviere" is fundamentally broken -- the slut's dead.
mircea_popescu: the anything is not a correct symbol. it's an approximation, and it only holds up in domains of little interest.
mircea_popescu: generally, more thought is given to the design of airplane cockpits than of women's shoes, notwithstanding more women wear shoes than fly airplanes.
mircea_popescu: ckang why do you expect the usercount makes a difference ?
mircea_popescu: le to claim, "we don't know how," since WireGuard makes it so easy. So, they hired me for a day to develop and open source a small solution for their unique use case and odd scenario." for lulz.
mircea_popescu: "It turns out that this strength might actually be a weakness for some. A small commercial VPN provider approached me recently about the fact they could see the allowed IPs mapping easily with WireGuard, whereas with OpenVPN it was hidden deep inside a process they didn't know how to debug. "Great," I thought. Not so fast. They were concerned that when compelled to retrieve this kind of information, they would no longer be ab
mircea_popescu: the only important question in computing is what i end up using anyway. to that standard, what difference could it possibly make.
mircea_popescu: like what ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean gossipd ? how can it possibly displace something that doesn't even exist!
mircea_popescu: ah, uses less amps per bit ? i guess.
mircea_popescu: why for mobile specifically ?
mircea_popescu: "unprincipledly better" is the argument.
mircea_popescu: there's a process we go through here, first the engineers throw a fit, then i pick up the pieces.
mircea_popescu: ckang too soon for you to interpret anything
mircea_popescu: and do me a favour -- not in this lambasting tone! ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know, but prepare a list of q's for when/if the guy shows up.
mircea_popescu has finished eating logs. muahaha.
mircea_popescu: ckang feel free to idle there, smooth things over if need be.
mircea_popescu: i guess. on a superficial look it's certainly better than whatever tls bs. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ckang you know the ancient story of how openbsd got saved from death ? it was eerily similar.
mircea_popescu: "<mircea_popescu> (on #wireguard) zx2c4 (the owner, j. donenfeld) : if you're willing to set two hours apart on any day of your choosing to answer wireguard questions on #trilema, i'm willing to donate 1 btc to your project. let me know, i'm usually on freenode (this nick). thanks & gl." << asciilifeform spyked whoever else might care. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ckang you can read up on all the crypto functions, be they trapdoors or whatever, if you are interested. it's not illegible arcana. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the claim is "The following protocols and primitives are used: ChaCha20 for symmetric encryption, authenticated with Poly1305, using RFC7539's AEAD construction; Curve25519 for ECDH; BLAKE2s for hashing and keyed hashing, described in RFC7693; SipHash24 for hashtable keys; HKDF for key derivation, as described in RFC5869"
mircea_popescu: i dun know anyone uses it as it is.
mircea_popescu: o look, there's even a #wireguard
mircea_popescu: i'ma have to get back to you on this.
mircea_popescu: consequently, as a broad field, it doesn't hold much interest here.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental problem with formal verification is that it's not currently implemented seriously (which is to say -- completely, on small codebases). it's just machines poking at things generally, in an untenable theoretical model.
mircea_popescu: !#s formal verification
mircea_popescu: ckang i don't read pdfs.
mircea_popescu: (which goes back to a long held asciilifeform notion, of "mining is a bug" -- certainly, but looky here : mining is also the direct result of "i want a shunt for the bruteforce, so i can say to people, "x is cheaper therefore y won't happen")
mircea_popescu: in any case -- it's currently cheaper to mine it.
mircea_popescu: this is roughly speaking 376440772360506502753317342245835 times the age of our present universe (the big bang having taken place 13.8 or so billion years ago).
mircea_popescu: 14 years of non-stop functioning.
mircea_popescu: ckang for an ad-hoc illustration : admitting that you own sunway taihulight (the chinese supercomputer discussed in http://trilema.com/2017/resplenduminous/ ), which does something like 9.3 * 10^16 flops ; and admitting you take 1 flop to generate a key (it's more like 150-200 irl, but w/e) and 0 time to check for its correctness, then you could expect a correct guess about once every 51948826585749897379957793229925273575140
mircea_popescu: but, for the expert minds tuned in : ckang 's question does not, as we currently stand, have a published canonical answer i can link him to. if you write it, i will link it next time someone asks.
mircea_popescu: there's also some ecdsa involved, but that's cryptographically less valuable.
mircea_popescu: admitting the merkle-damgard construction (what ripemd is built out of, see http://homes.esat.kuleuven.be/~bosselae/ripemd160.html ) does not have a backdoor, and that sha256 doesn't have a backdoor, you are looking at something like 256 bits of entropy involved.
mircea_popescu: the proper formula is : address = ripemd160(sha256(secret)). to go from an address to its corresponding private key (which is what "bruteforce" requires in this context) you'd have to reverse a ripemd160 and a sha256 op.
mircea_popescu: ckang here's the basic likbez : a bitcoin address (which is what keeps funds) is built out of a chaining of crypto functions : https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/thumb/4/48/Address_map.jpg/700px-Address_map.jpg
mircea_popescu: ckang it's one of the things people do for their own satisfaction, but your question isn't without marrow. let's see here...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1795922 << this is broken in the same way as the subjects of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-03#1792556 discussion. ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other words : it will never happen, the world ends first.
mircea_popescu: ckang the timescale involved in bruteforcing a bitcoin address exceeds the computable capacity of an alternate universe in which every single atom extant would be part of an ideal processor working at it.
mircea_popescu: but no, you're not going to bruteforce a key.
mircea_popescu: ckang the idea isn't you bruteforce it, the idea is that in between world A, where 100 people living have 1 btc each, and world A', where 99 people living and 1 person dead have 1 bitcoin each, is that the apparent value of the bitcoin will be 101% in A` vs A.
mircea_popescu: but whether this properly means you have taken it or you haven't taken it is very much an open question of metaphysics, "what is the meaning of taking".
mircea_popescu: technically bitcoin you can't take to grave either, the passive result of dead keys is a slight increase in the value of circulating bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: it's a xtian thing, "gospel by matthew". here : https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A19-34&version=NIV
mircea_popescu: so you never heard of "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal." and all that ?
mircea_popescu: as in, the xtian sect.
mircea_popescu: really ? it's the cornerstone of "protestant" ideology.
mircea_popescu: quite a lulzy implementation of the whole "do not build yourself perishable treasures" meme.
mircea_popescu: the fantasy the empire is living is that "nobody can be poor enough to starve". the only meaning of which is, "nobody can have any incentive to hold anything besides bitcoin".
mircea_popescu: because teh bitcoin ain't going anywhere, the "judge" can hold his breath until he's done dicking about.
mircea_popescu: consider a simple example : you get divorced. or arrested. or "suspected" of "crime". what's the real estate you "owned" worth now ?
mircea_popescu: ckang amusingly, selling us based real estate on the market and buying bitcoin at 20k is not actually a bad deal. even with bitcoin at 7k now.
mircea_popescu: did they manage to get a budget yet ?
mircea_popescu: reporting is not an imperial strength.
mircea_popescu: for all practical purposes money is now outside of the control of fiat pretend-sovereigns.
mircea_popescu: hey, i moved enough paper money into argentina to ruin its government a few years ago. they can worry until they fucking fall over for all the good it's gonna do them.
mircea_popescu: ckang sure.
mircea_popescu: it's still on my fucking liver, that episode. so whistleblower goes to "media", they publish her fucking pdfs with the yellow dots untouched, she gets sent to jail, at which point the ENTIRE fucking faux establishment somehow still does not end. how thje fuck!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform certainly.
mircea_popescu: back when some imbecile went to fake news media rather than coming to qntra, got sent to jail for it, STILL did not admit there exists no media online besides qntra. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ckang if he wants to come online i can explain to him how to publish it so it is not traceable in that way. see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704530 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "god doesn't beat with the stick".
mircea_popescu: not really.
mircea_popescu: (do make a blog. it's an immensely important anchor for your online identity and the power you build on it)
mircea_popescu: ckang have him scan it ; qntra will want to publish it, if you don't break down and make a proper blog before that.
mircea_popescu: usg has laws in the sense any bully has principles.
mircea_popescu: illegal as all fuck, but then again http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-09#1794697 and all that. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this is ancient news.
mircea_popescu: there's this pattern in usg attempts to subvert bitcoin, as discussed in that thread and generally in the logs ; it's "success" depends on the ignorance of the userbase, which is what separates very sharply the bitcoin "users" into republican and imperial sets. the latter have some dust and reddit.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-11#1795919 << bitcoin addresses come in the form 1x, like say 1NwAjL6CwMHm5S9aeFfmop5VtqBA6aNJRT ; some dorks came up with an "extension". there are fundamental problems with their code, discussed in the logs, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697111 / http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697118 ☝︎☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, girls going to college to meet the sort of guy that goes to college is a time and space invariant. true in egypt today as it was true in romania 50 years ago as it was true in the us since inception.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795917 << actually, the college standard for middle-class kids throughout the 90s and maybe a short sliver of the 00s was kinda BingoBoingo 's experience : "they gave me all this money to leave parents' house, ima... drink it / smoke it". it came to an end, of course, nohope.jpg now, but it's what it was for a while there. i know n examples. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795912 <<->> http://trilema.com/2011/spargatorii-si-curva/ ; i should prolly translate that shouldn't i. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795909 << i know, i know. kinda expected. still... gotta say something to them, whether they follow or not the wise words of the elders is what distinguishes the talented from the mediocre in any generation, isn't it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 2018, the year i'ma be overwhelmed.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile somewhere else, "I looked through your profile and I like what I've seen. What would serving you entail?"
mircea_popescu: yes.
mircea_popescu: douchebag hit it.
mircea_popescu waves
mircea_popescu refers to his handy hashguide to indentify which one cassidy was
mircea_popescu: phf indeed right you are, huh.
mircea_popescu: cassidy3 say !!up to deedbot in a pm, then !!v with the string it sent.
mircea_popescu: you know im pretty sure she can self-voice.
mircea_popescu: which is my point!