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assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
phf: to misbehave, idle however long and send data as large as they want. what's not implemented: prioritizing trusted nodes over others during node selection: you might still lose connection by natural means, in which case -addnode nodes will be dropped, and a standard node selection mechanism is used. the patch so far is here http://paste.lisp.org/display/155710. i'm thinking that ultimate vs. trusted distinction might be unnecessary. i would
phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. both t. and ultimate) are allowed ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Wanted to commit the report to the textual record as soon as possible
davout: and we had it in a drawer anyway, so might as well publish
asciilifeform: (a panel which fits on a passenger car roof - let's even assume one on the hood, as well - would be lucky to pick up 200W at high noon on a cloudless day.) ☟︎
cazalla: johnny depp as whitey bulger
mircea_popescu: well... they shave it, they butter it... might as well.
davout: as in anything different than "open package, shove in mouth"
cazalla: apparently they're being installed along the hume highway which is a highway around 1000km in length which connects sydney<->melbourne as well as a bunch of rural towns together, but from what i've read, you'd have to stop every 200-250 km to recharge this car for 45m, meaning the trip takes an extra 3 hours.. keeping in mind my piece of shit car does 750km of that trip on one tank
cazalla: never seen one as in never seen a tesla irl
mircea_popescu: and of course create a ton of confusion downstream because hey, why the fuck not be as weird as Mr. W.T.F Osstrich here : http://cointelegraph.com/storage/uploads/view/659f9790a30cc72738a89b2f5fa59297.jpg
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/3m3zfu/why_is_cppethereum_now_calling_their_projects/ << ethereum derps wanna misrepresent themselves as "Web 3.0", because yeah, totally, that's something you wanna be after the shocking failure of web 2.0 and the trail of black eyes it left behind. o reilly turned a publishing powerhouse into a vanity press stuck churning the memoirs of ex boxers, Derp-on Derpopo-lous and Br
asciilifeform: just as there is no alternative to, e.g., ada
brg444: mircea_popescu: funny you mention iCEBREAKER, was just having a chat with him the other day as he was inquiring about b-a thinking I was already in seeing as regularly quote content from trilema/logs. will let him know about your "interest".
asciilifeform: one modulus, one key, as the gods intended.
asciilifeform: as in, separate thing
asciilifeform: to count as 'strategic'
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as strategic mining.
phf: it's a coop with whole foods prices, they have a truly weird selection of cashiers, working there for a discount. i'd say trader joes has prettiest cashiers here, but that's a far away truck just to talk to some hipster girls. might as well go to a bar
asciilifeform: many do not even have access to something normal person would recognize as a kitchen.
asciilifeform: we were speaking of usg payola such as 'medicaid'
asciilifeform: as in, if i get sacked i get to starve long before could ever show up as 'low earner'
mircea_popescu: as a result, they'll be billed for a few millions, and react to it, gouging insurance prices by a few billion in a half decade.
cazalla: do americans actually pay such prices or is it simply a case where end user pays $8.80 (as we do here) and the goverment/tax payer is fucked for the rest of it?
shinohai will test cukes as necessary ....
ascii_field: i.e. if three people have it, it is just as useful as if 33 did
mircea_popescu: "Mustaches and beards are permitted so long as they are kept clean and neat."
ascii_field: as described by, e.g., rob pike
ascii_field: in engineering this used to be known as 'design space shrinkage'
mircea_popescu: think of catholicism as much harder programming with immutability baked in.
ascii_field: r loads a lot of DLLs from the executable directory first, so by copying the vpndownloader.exe file from Program Files to a temporary directory and dropping an appropriately named DLL you can get code execution as SYSTEM.'
thestringpuller: In this instance I'd think weakest hunter is used as cannon fodder.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: your 'imo' as to the merits and value of intrafamilial socialism doesn't stand up against the biological and historical record.
wywialm: no, as the pope does not sign with only his personal key
wywialm: i wanted to point that the level of officiality (at least by catholic criteria) is ambiguous even with most publicised texts, such as his adhortation or encyclicals
wywialm: pete_dushenski, i'm a little bit familiar with the galileo case, and i wouldn't put it as an example of revision of doctrine
pete_dushenski: wywialm: nope. that just doesn't wash. this is the EXACT same shtick as 'opinions of ceo of megacorp are not the opinions of megacorp'
wywialm: but i think there is difference between saying that about Bergoglio as Bergoglio, and as Pope Francis
phf: in which case whatever pope says is basically his personal believes as a famous public figure
thestringpuller: Well lets say the machine was created by protohumans (pre-machine humans), and then as a result became slaves to the machine
wywialm: well, catholicism has not begun in 2013 and not in 1965 as well and there is plenty of context to be applied
pete_dushenski: either pope's words are his words and stand as they are, or else they have an alternative and alterior 'meaning' and can be 'charitably interpreted'
wywialm: however, this pope doesn't seem to be bothered by such things as 'official text'
thestringpuller: a few come out as taller, and are hence deemed leaders.
wywialm: what he says, in particular what he says officially and marks as his official teaching, is way more important
wywialm: do what he says as interpreted as charitably as possible and in the light of the whole catholic teaching
pete_dushenski: wywialm: because that opens the door to an untold number of personal fantasies, as has been previously discussed in the logs
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: "As such, I would find it absolutely essential, in order to take this question to its logical conclusion, to murder everyone in my constituency extant and to replace them with an army of sterile maleviii clones (perhaps with the help of Monsanto because I hear they’re pretty good at this sort of thing), whom will be raised by robot nannies, so as to control for the differences between parenting qualities and s
pete_dushenski: as it's our subject matter
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:13:59; pete_dushenski: socialism : the political viewpoint that holds as its highest virtue the coercive redistribution of resources
wywialm: pete_dushenski, he may try to speak as the voice of the 'people', but it is clear to me that it is way outside of his mandate as a pope
ascii_field: 'Confinement in any institution such as Lewisburg is never a pleasant experience. Every attempt is
pete_dushenski: socialism : the political viewpoint that holds as its highest virtue the coercive redistribution of resources ☟︎
wywialm: as i stated earlier, this depends on the definition of socialism
assbot: "Universalism: postwar progressivism as a Christian sect" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OuF5zQ )
pete_dushenski: wywialm shinohai et al., i refer you to http://trilema.com/2013/universalism-postwar-progressivism-as-a-christian-sect/
pete_dushenski: unpleasant as I possibly can to anyone who dares to crawl through the tunnel. I will try to the best of my ability to make them regret their decision...I'll try my very best to sexually assault him or her. The tunnel is constructed in such a way that it gets smaller the closer you get to the project room. The bigger you are, the more difficult it is to comfortably crawl out. And trust me, I have a lot of secret
pete_dushenski: "Why rape? Because as an artistic gesture, it's one of the most impactful I can think of... It dawned on me that if the work [we local artists] created had never existed, the world would be no different than if it had. None of it mattered to anyone outside of our small and insignificant circle of peers. I wanted something that would have more impact...I want to make it clear that I plan to make the experience as
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 04:55:31; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278736 << turns out that i was off the mark here. to wit : "Emissions system and fuel economy testing is conducted while a vehicle is placed on a dynamometer—think of it as a two big rollers or a treadmill—rather than driving on the road. The vehicle has only its driving wheels rolling (the front ones, in the case of VW vehicles). But the rear tires
lobbes: I'd argue that 'music' is just fine, but it is the 'popular music industry' that suffers today. But, the masses have come to expect (tm) as they say
mircea_popescu: but basically... it never occured to me that in point of fact bitbet's minimum acts as a tax. and a lot of other things in here never occured to me. i'm still reeling over the whole pile.
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 01:36:58; asciilifeform: also usg giveth, usg taketh away. a 'pharma ceo' has so much as one cent purely by the good graces of hitler - who helpfully keeps penny-a-pill indian generics mostly out of u.s. market
mircea_popescu: anyway. it just amused me as a case of "bug shaped man confused that the future doesn't seem to belong to him."
mircea_popescu: s-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/
assbot: The woes of Altcoin, or why there is no such thing as "cryptocurrencies" on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1j8LgNl )
mircea_popescu: "Ultimately, as Bitcoin takes over the internet, all non-Bitcoin projects (of any kind) will be treated with the ridicule afforded a US resident who tries to pay for his milk with Japanese yen. Eventually, interest in using a non-Bitcoin will fall to zero. Altcoins, even somehow-useful ones, don’t have a future." << and the proper link for this is, of course, http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-i
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: as to liquidity, hot damn if i don't see it now. only 6 hours into this yom kippur fast and i'm always too slow.
pete_dushenski: as a definition of liquidity ?!
mircea_popescu: e-march-1st/ << bitbet's version, which cost bfl close to 1k btc, and which resulted in http://trilema.com/2013/the-positive-market-effects-of-the-delivery-bet/ and which in turn resulted in a lot of clearing the air for legitimate operators in the space, and which is to some degree why asics even exist today as a private thing rather than coming a couple years later as a usg only thing.
cazalla: totally to be expected as well, which is probably why they did it to begin with
pete_dushenski: it's an old, hierarchical industry. architecture moves incredibly slowly. and quite rightly so as its products ~have~ to last decades, if not centuries.
pete_dushenski: architecture is as far more about existing buildings, topographies, and spaces as 'the new stuff'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1282406 << this, pointedly and as far as the eye can see, does NOT happen to be true. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: ary. The vehicle could otherwise interpret the test procedure as a dangerous situation or malfunction, activating traction control or stability control. By enabling a test mode, the vehicle will be able to operate during the test process. Once the test is complete and the car is restarted, the car reverts to its normal function. And once the cars are in on-the-road mode, nitrogen oxide levels increased by 10 to
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278736 << turns out that i was off the mark here. to wit : "Emissions system and fuel economy testing is conducted while a vehicle is placed on a dynamometer—think of it as a two big rollers or a treadmill—rather than driving on the road. The vehicle has only its driving wheels rolling (the front ones, in the case of VW vehicles). But the rear tires are station ☝︎☟︎
psztorc: Almost as predictable as your question dodging.
asciilifeform observes that 'bugs' like this (if gaping hole in the chest of an idea can still be referred to as a 'bug'...) can live almost indefinitely long when there is a 'play money only' system such as ones mentioned earlier. simply because the 'unreasonable!11!!!11!!' folk with serious dough don't show up to clean their clocks.
psztorc: As will your 2nd and all the rest.
mircea_popescu: but as to the experiment : suppose your coin exists. suppose it has a total issued volume of 1mn coins. suppose i own them all, because i'm an asshole and i buy them all.
mircea_popescu: "My design was able to solve a few other PM-problems as well. Any user can create a market about anything, removing the dual-requirement that a PM-administrator must not only be trustworthy, but also share your prediction-interests. Market scoring rule technology ensures that trading volume is irrelevant, and traders will always be able make a trade updating the price to their estimation (even if they are the only trad
mircea_popescu: ok, sure, for a given level, as long as that level is very high, they are in fact cheaper.
psztorc: Of course, as I'm sure you know, "credit" comes from the latin "cred-" for "belief/faith"
mircea_popescu: as the saying goes around here, you might not be interested in fungibility, but that doesn't prevent it from being interested in you.
BingoBoingo: The paper honestly reads to me as BitBet ad copy
mircea_popescu: "The current market price of these tradable predictions can then be interpreted as the likelihood of the prediction coming true." << because, why ?
gernika: mircea_popescu: I can see a bbs as a public forum, yes. The decentralization is not as clear to me, at least not in the way I used them. I only ever dialed into one.
mircea_popescu: "What if you had access to the combined intellectual powers of all mankind? It would be easier for you to make decisions." << you know, not only this does not follow, but the contrary is actually recorded as anecdotal observation by pretty much all sources. like say russell.
mircea_popescu: gernika a) would you agree that the superset of this inquiry is the bbs and b) would you say it meets definitions of either "forum" or "decentralized" as you use them ?
gernika: Is it impossible to implement a public forum on a decentralized architecture, such as a dht?
mircea_popescu: but in the original terms. "in Truthcoin the operations performed are almost exactly the same as existing Bitcoin transactions".
psztorc: You may be right about whatever you are talking about, but in Truthcoin the operations performed are almost exactly the same as existing Bitcoin transactions.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, "the earth centralizes the imago-es of all astral bodies, as their light projection". nevertheless, the earth is not a black hole.
mircea_popescu: but the "meet" in "market" has a different intension from "meet" as in "sql join".
mircea_popescu: this argument is not even apparent if people were spherical cows in a vacuum. but as people are, it's impossible to obtain an outcome by opposite process.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> why this particular schmuck was chosen as the whipping boy of the day << was in the news recently, '87 born catamite of "tiger fund" gonzo increased price of some shitty expired patent medicine nobody else was manufacturing because us is as springy as a dead halibut.
BingoBoingo: The differnce between Darl and this pharma lol-cow is all this one does is use the rules exactly as intended without ambiguity
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'must' my arse. fda as it exists today is a creature of the pharma cartels.
asciilifeform: but in the purely physical sense, a $10 (not even speaking of $1000) pill of ANY CONTENTS WHATSOEVER makes precisely as much sense as a $1M software package.
asciilifeform: why this particular schmuck was chosen as the whipping boy of the day, i do not know. but tlp's dictum 'if you're reading it, it's for you' comes to mind.