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diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this reminds me of early attempts with Italian: when stuck, grab a Romanian/French/latin word, stick Italian ending on it and say it loud and clear; it the worse case locals will promptly correct it ☟︎

BingoBoingo: diana_coman: It is eastern in a sense

mircea_popescu: Extra power is 20 cents/Watt, can be had as an add-on. Extra bandwidth, idem, though because granularity issues can't really give a fixed price in advance. but something like $20 doubles it, more or less.

mircea_popescu: now in a position to restate http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782000 as follows : ☝︎

mircea_popescu: and it looks like we're paying 10 cents a Watt, so that settles that score.

juhoitse: As a finn I have the immunity to hard liqour but I've lost my social skills as a consequence

juhoitse: Getting a job soon so gonna have some money to invest as well

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Here is the whole unredacted contract. I am unsure what, if anything ought to be redacted before publication given the mission of maximally pissing on the enemy by not being a prude http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7WHsY/?raw=true

mircea_popescu: a. cool.

juhoitse: I'm finishing high school at the moment, going to study engineering in a uni hopefully soon

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1782057 << the principal difference being that other than holding down a high responsibility tech job with a significant on-call component, ~the woman~ is also raising a child. with the flu and everything. yet somehow her shit is still dribbling out on thursdays, today as nine weeks ago. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Also after contract is deturded, sometime today a post reflecting on dos meses.

mircea_popescu: and, to be sure, if you do manage to fill it, and if it does make good dough, i'll be just as happy for you to get a nice villa and import your own german car and diddle all the uruguayan hos you can find. so...

mircea_popescu: so your cost basis per shared host would be like $100 weekly, nothing short of a license to print dough.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for clerical record : the per-month amortisation value of a $1300 box is 1300/12 (ie, we deem them obsolete in one year) ; consequently the retail monthly cost of a $1300 box is 1300/12*2 = 216.666666667 ; or the weekly exactly 50.

mircea_popescu: now, as to everyone else : today's the 6th. the plan is to continue discussing the spec given above, for improvements/refinements/whatever until the 8th ; at which point we start ordering. there's about 15k fiats worth of gear being contemplated, and i'm more than willing to spread it around a few people who want some cheap coins.

mircea_popescu: aite. you can certainly eat even out of a half-filled rack, so. it's a biz.

mircea_popescu: so ~in principle~, you can end up very profitable. what's needed is a good system for shared hosting, and hounding the low end forums/whatever.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo : the logic is, ima want 5 of the dozen ; the rest could each at least in principle support 100 "shared" sorta sites each, at $20 a month or whatever you end up charging. that's, if you manage to fill up the lot, $14`000 per month in revenue. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: From there the actual customs x-ray station and the lines for said station is around a U shaped bend. Usually they apathetically wave people through, the more foreign appearing without being India/Chinese generally the less interest they have.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo aite on the power and rack cages scores. any tips you want to share with phf ? how's teh suitcase ppls do it ? << They pad things as appropriate, but they discard the original packaging. Also it is important to grab a customs form, they are on the wall on the right once you exit the duty free store zone, on the opposite side of the space is the baggage claim.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo does the dc provide the racking boxes at least ? or does sheer metal have to be carried from overseas also ? << Inquiry sent, with a timeline (i.e. can be had next week)

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ? << Sounds a hell of a lot beefier than the Qntra server.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:31 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If the paper declaring it an import with a value isn't there at least another 50% on top of the 22% VAT. Looking at the advertisements here https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/samsung-ssd#D[A:samsung ssd] it appears there is a brisk business of people doing the suitcase thing.

diana_coman: I can see the argument as a generic offering , yes; in all fairness it's not like we have a load of properly-speaking multi-threaded software to run

mircea_popescu: not to mention the item is an atrocity cobbled together out of a dozen or so actual chips, and all sorts of those discussions.

mircea_popescu: kinda intended to be a sort of generic offering ; people with specific needs still can ship their gear over.

mircea_popescu: this, of course, is where "teh experts" could contribute, if they weren't busy taking a shit right exactly when they're needed. but... such is lyf.

mircea_popescu: seems to me a bad deal to trade 4ghz down to 3 in exchange for 16 cores instead of 8. contrary to all the hubbub, "multithreading" isn't nearly that working in practice.

diana_coman: well yes, hence "slight dislike" not a deal breaker or anything major; fwiw at this moment I'd say Eulora can certainly live on either

a111: Logged on 2018-02-06 01:57 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ?

trinque hasn't a preference for weekly, other than manages the bitcoin:fiat interface volatility better, which iirc was the rationale

mircea_popescu: anyway, i can say outright BingoBoingo 's prices are not correct. i ended up paying a little over 7k for 2 months' of the thing ; that's 3.6k or such post tax / 3k pre-tax not 2323.

trinque: it's a lovely thing to deal with people who will even tell you how they came to the price.

trinque: "my name is BingoBoingo and a U costs X, the end." pls&ty

mircea_popescu: independently interesting from a statistical perspective anyway.

mircea_popescu: well, exposing history is prolly 90% of the job anyway. give people a feel for it.

mircea_popescu: trinque i suspect his whole thing was "how much under "all" must i withdraw to get it through". but in any case, how hard would it be to have a !!fee that reports "past week avg fee : x (y txn)" "past month avg fee" etc.

asciilifeform: mod6: it isn't clear what i am to apologize to mircea_popescu for : not being a telepath ? not having extra set of hands to make errything on conveyor happen at once ? what, exactly.

asciilifeform: mod6: i apparently do not have a good working model of mircea_popescu .

mod6: I srsly doubt anyone thinks you're an idiot. I certainly do not. Maybe just take an irc break for a few hours. Stop your converyor belt, go and write blog post about boxen; even if too late. Ask forgiveness. Who knows, maybe Mr. Popescu changes his mind. Maybe not. But eitherway, lesson learned 'eh?

asciilifeform: currently i have a clogged conveyor, consisting of 'keep weekly posts, idjit' and 'manifest of now-and-future iron' , in that sequence . asciilifeform sits and continues to grind conveyor. meanwhile mircea_popescu throws fit, 'you fucked it' , etc.

trinque: because consider, I automatically quote you a fee, and then the mempool fills up. now what

mircea_popescu: tis a free republic, any can see what he sees.

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".

asciilifeform: the 'here is what we have' of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779933 is fulfilled by what mircea_popescu termed 'the random garbage in the log' (in fact a complete actionable description of asciilifeform's inventory.) the 'what we will EVER want to get' , and asciilifeform is multiply on record re subj, is more of exactly same , 63xx/61xx opterons , from same surplus contacts where asciilifeform previously obtained the 3. ☝︎

danielpbarron: trinque, what is the fee charged for deedbot withdraw? is there a way to check pre-emptively?

asciilifeform: and secondarily a discussion of obtainable additionals.

asciilifeform: the way i parsed mircea_popescu's original work req, is that it was to be primarily a manifest of iron ready to fly in time for phf.

mircea_popescu: why. because it never was "hey, re-tell me what i already know", it was "hey, try and apply your knowledge to producing a list of what we want to buy"/

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 23:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma uncrate things, take pics, expect a roundup sunday night.

asciilifeform: hanbot: i have nfi what the reaction is, possibly mircea_popescu has indigestion instead of rum, or whatever. i have a total of 3 usable machines, purchased after consultation with mircea_popescu , and reimbursed by him; specs were detailed to mircea_popescu before and after purchase . 1 machine was intended for s.nsa in particular; 2 for use as mircea_popescu later sees fit. whole thing was laid out in the logs on several occasions,

asciilifeform: hanbot: the man's clearly imbibed a critical mass of high octane rum, i can only leave him to digest it .

asciilifeform: this is what, a bbet-style acid test ? next item is that asciilifeform is expected to go into tilt ? guess wat, asciilifeform is tilt-proof.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes dude. you were to produce a blog article detailing the items sunday night, you dumped random lines in log monday night isntead. this is what fucking up delivery is.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing in particular, they can just sit and wait. you can write a letter to the shareholders explaining how you fucked up delivery if you wish.

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron can you get a coupla dozen FGs shipped to phf in wash dc ? how much ?

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo phf trinque diana_coman so i'm thinking of basically getting a dozen amd fx-8350s (because just 125w compared to say fx-9590s 220) racked in u2 mbs (say maybe ASRock 970M PRO3 ? i thinkl that fits in 2u neh ?) with 64 gb ram each and a coupla ssds ? any complaints/suggestions ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and in no sense represent a failure to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-06#1781829 . ☝︎

asciilifeform: i also have a price table of disks, and discussion of future availability of opteron

a111: Logged on 2018-02-02 21:40 mircea_popescu: not even necessarily photo, a simple "here is what we have, COMPLETE specs ; and what we probably might want to ~EVER~ get".

mircea_popescu: yes, because reading comprehension's not a forte, and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-02#1779930 never happened and so on. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: he can't provide you a fucking quote on my airfare, what the fuck's wrong with you.

mircea_popescu: i don't see how s.nsa will afford a server now, no.

asciilifeform: so what, phf is under orders not to ship completed dulap-III ? mircea_popescu proclaims 's.nsa dun need a www' or FG storefront or wat

mircea_popescu: so, people who ~aren't~ asciilifeform : phf still needs a pile of gear for his flight ; BingoBoingo can't produce it locally. i'm looking for system suggestions.

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: If the paper declaring it an import with a value isn't there at least another 50% on top of the 22% VAT. Looking at the advertisements here https://listado.mercadolibre.com.uy/samsung-ssd#D[A:samsung ssd] it appears there is a brisk business of people doing the suitcase thing. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i can paste it in a post, if mircea_popescu really wants

mircea_popescu: how exactly is this miswired mess of a nonbrain work ?

ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: get a read on how they calculate tax for items in opened envelopes yet?

BingoBoingo: I have not been there, but how many disks are you going to fit in an envelope before it starts looking like a package?

a111: Logged on 2017-12-30 20:14 jawbone2: My name is Jim Weaver I live in Florida. I do not keep a blog yet. That is coming with my webserver project

jawbone2: I live in Florida. A sunny place for shady people

BingoBoingo: Only so much of the population is capable of working as a pinoy+, the competent authorities here are keenly aware that everything they have here is because of tourist expenditures.

BingoBoingo: Tourist is a priviledged status here

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Everything that comes in Fedex/DHL seems to get inspected at customs here. Customs here seems to focus on how things enter the country. If it is fedex/dhl they figure it is prolly a local they can tax on their amazon purchase. If it is in a suitcase it is assumed to be the holy relic of a sacred tourist and thusly undisturbed.

shinohai: Soon, BingoBoingo .... I have a relapse of the flu curse wafting around here.

mircea_popescu: aite, count it for feb, that gives you like a benjie headstart.

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i figure should prolly enact an expense account for you, looking through these ledgers. how's 20 bux a day sound ?

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> btw BingoBoingo , what's a 'CoWork' ? << An office arrangement where they set you up with an address suitable for local fiscal reporting. Lotta outsourced remote workers here, many of the better locals I have encountered. Place to do actual work, the hostel isn't equiped to accomodate that.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo in the end, did you get prices from anyone that weren't utterly ridiculous, 2x internets ? << Not for shit that isn't lowest common denominator consumer boxes. The datacenter forwarded a spreadsheet SuperMicro sent them with prices for two boxes in quantities up to 20 a piece today. Missing was any information on what the fuck the boxes were. Super Micro included model numbers that don't resolve to anything

asciilifeform: ch10 is a bitch, approx same level of sweat as 1-9 combined

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw did i miss a sunday night post of yours or what happened ?

asciilifeform bashing his head against the wall , yet again, trying to make a graphical diagram.

mircea_popescu: he has a sort of small office.

asciilifeform: btw BingoBoingo , what's a 'CoWork' ?

asciilifeform: 'The alteration of the table is currently in progress. As it is a huge table, it might take some hours to finish' << gotta wonder what is 'huge' here

mircea_popescu: so was this basically a case of a) you figured you'll play at teh FX speculator and it didn't work out for you or b) you misjudged http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-11#1769068 capacity of the place to such a degree, all it could actually absorb was a measly 500 ? ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they dun wanna DO anything ; they just wanna LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.

mircea_popescu: and in today's "engineering's not my calling" : i have some nice thick candles, which no longer burn because the thread-thin wicks they came with aren't strong enough to melt the whole thickness and as a result they get drowned in melted wax.

asciilifeform: catalogue # 425V99 , a quarter of what i have, same thickness, and minus the frame -- costs 3x what i paid

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i recently procured a sizable amount from grainger https://www.grainger.com/category/cork-sheet-stock/cork/raw-materials/ecatalog/N-c10?searchRedirect=cork

asciilifeform: ( the offensive scamitude is not even in the lack of cork -- to make a cheap ersatz corkboard, they could've used e.g. rubber from old tires, anything similarly 'self-healing' . but no, had to imitate the genuine article , PRETEND )

asciilifeform: to make the thing last even a short while, the maker used very tough cardboard to replace the missing cork. but as result the tack barely want to go in at all, create the temptation to keep a hammer nearby , and provoke the question of why then bothered to buy and hang up the item to begin with, could as easily hammer into wall

asciilifeform: aa yes! exactly same substance. minus the shiny. and scaled up to cover a wall.

a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 20:39 mircea_popescu: here's the problems with "expensive, upscale" coasters : they're not a square of cut up cork, like you'd expect if they were you know, uncivilised, unglamorous, un-internet-of-things orcfare. no. they're a thin strip of cork glued to cardboard with some shiny drawings on top.

asciilifeform: relatedly, i recently hung up a 'premium, high end' corkboard, several square metres, and it turns out that 1) maybe half the depth is actual cork, the rest -- cardboard 2) no other kind is available ☟︎