asciilifeform: to properly debug this item , you will sadly have to restart the box .
asciilifeform: unix i/o is retarded, if blocking read blocks, it gives you a zombie process , and the next process you start that tried to read same tty, will also become zombie☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: btw you will probably want to make a timeout mechanism, to ring alarm if FG ever does die, rather than hanging
asciilifeform: diana_coman: comment out the init, and fire a shot.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can almost certainly rule out iron problem then
asciilifeform: ( nobody's yet reported a wedged FG on the standard dd-powered test. )
asciilifeform: from my current reading of diana_coman's code, the only major diff b/w the official manual's test scenario, and diana_coman's, is the init thing.
asciilifeform: ( it is a 'wings fall off'-level problem )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i agree, this kind of thing is absolutely impermissible, and gotta get to the bottom of it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: before you go to swap cabling, let's first see if the known sadness of pl2303 driver is the culprit.
asciilifeform: ( the exact pattern is in the nosuchlabs.com and printed manual )
asciilifeform: generally you want to init it once, on coldboot.
asciilifeform: ( possibly can blame linux pl2303 driver )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very old noose: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775301 ( he replaces all mentions of #trilema with '#fraudsters', and of mircea_popescu with something or other, i fughet, and possibly other substs )☝︎
asciilifeform: right, the inbandism is in the old vdiff layer, rather than unix diff proper
asciilifeform: ( i'd hope that new vtron format will abolish all inbandism. )
asciilifeform: but folx attempting to reverse-grind ch11 with old vdiff.sh will inevitably see barf, and there is not currently any fix other than the above.☟︎
asciilifeform: this has no effect on any extant vtron ( the resulting patches are correctly formatted ) .
asciilifeform: ( instead of the old awk 'm = /^(---|\+\+\+)/ ... , uses awk 'm = /^(--- a\/|\+\+\+ b\/)/ ... )
asciilifeform: btw i oughta mention , i had to resort to a modified vdiff.sh : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rB9AD/?raw=true for ch11 , as the ada comment syntax causes inbandism barf with classic vdiff.sh when deleting or modifying the comment headers at the start of ffa modules
asciilifeform: did i ever mention how phf's viewer makes patches a joy to reread !
asciilifeform: !Q later tell esthlos in e.g. http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2016-03-28 you link to kako's log ; i recommend against this , it is not a faithful record of the actual text ( last yr he took to monkeying with it via perlism and possibly also manually )☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to eat ch11 into btcbase .
asciilifeform: ^ the largest patch since genesis ( >80kB ) but unfortunately could not be avoided.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is that little thing on the wall, tv antenna ?! and it catches something??
asciilifeform: 'De este modo, el BROU se convirtió en el único actor identificado que sacó un rédito económico con el secuestro que tuvo a Salomone recluida durante un mes: cobró aproximadamente US$ 2.500 por concepto de sus servicios.' << lolwtf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to round off prev thread , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-30#1838243 is exactly it -- i'd prefer 'steam' waiters too, if these existed ! somehow asciilifeform is 100% blind to the 'feeling served' pleasure. i like work to happen, dun much care how, and steam beats meat just about erry time.☝︎
asciilifeform: gonna put'em on a 1st-and-15th calendar.
asciilifeform finally got inlining to work properly in ffa, ave-style . nao, the article!
asciilifeform: ( sold errywhere, lotsa folx have kerosene heaters in sheds, terrible malodorous thing )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi in what shithole the d00d in the clip lives, even here there is kerosene.
asciilifeform: speaking of 'no relief from the menial', i'ma bbl.
asciilifeform: i dun see contradiction -- they're already with you in restaurant, neh, it isn't as if wrapping bottle will subtract from the spywork
asciilifeform: ( iirc there was a trilema where 'restaurant waiter is a kind of ersatz servant for those who can't afford own, like that jacket they keep for the occasional d00d who wanders in without jacket' )
asciilifeform: what's the use of the bottle wrapping boy
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu brought own servant hands errywhere
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can see this pov. fwiw my emulated mircea_popescu says : 'if ameritards were given their just deserts per their actual productivity, they would then lack not only their gas stove, but would not even have primus'
asciilifeform: i recall his theory that it generates better chix, somehow. but still strikes me as ugh.
asciilifeform: gotta admit, the 'charm' of the squalor, is lost on asciilifeform .
asciilifeform: ( not even clear, to my untrained eye, why 'ticos' need stove. to make tea, primus would suffice, neh )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's puzzler is , re how mircea_popescu gave verdict 'argentines are subhuman' but then moves closer to equator, where monkeys , and somehow there - 'not subhuman'☟︎
asciilifeform: holyfuq that drainpipe stove. they have better stoves in gulag.
asciilifeform: 'hey, i heard you wrote something about music, i'm gonna start a band' 'what instruments do you play' 'i'm gonna bang two rocks together' 'y'know, it is not easy to tune these' 'eh, if i feel the pain, i have a stringless fiddle in my attic i might play with'
asciilifeform: but apparently reddit attention span dun work that way...
asciilifeform: fromloper: the moment you start trying to implement something that runs on actual iron, rather than vm/emulator, you're in for some hurt.
asciilifeform: unless it was in 2007 or approx, chances are that not
