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asciilifeform: in ro they aren't a '40s creation are they
mircea_popescu: if porn weren't so fucking dead, i might be making some avantgarde anatomy explorations. such as the female stairwell.
mircea_popescu: but fucking angora rabbit you know, all that fur, doesn't sit well with the snake
mircea_popescu: this first level, mechanical approach to things isn't going to yield much.
mircea_popescu: my thinking is that this is a passive thing - the usg wasn't collecting them more than the sewer collects pearl necklaces.
mircea_popescu: and on the other hand, i don't admit that 'stealing people for the sake of stealing', whatever may mean, is either related to what we were discussing or a useful method to approach the subject matter we were discussing.
mircea_popescu: look - the blunders of usg post taliban beheading in 2001 are not more meaningful nor worthy of investigation in the direct sense than the movement of a salted snail. so i don't admit that whatever post 2001 example of behaviour or anecdotal poit of evidence may be used as part of a larger construction of ideas.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg has this 'orcs are dumb' thing going. and isn't even always wrong - e.g., winblowz at natanz centrifuge plant
mircea_popescu: i don't put any stock in this story.
mircea_popescu: someone who has even an inkling of a chance of getting within 1% of succeeding here, doesn't need your piddly "what barrista makes" income.
mircea_popescu: i don't even count this sort of shit, for all you know it's a movie trailer.
mircea_popescu: now, i can appreciate you personally wish to look at things in this "management doesn't matter and doesn't exist, so no difference should be made between gasteropode and man", but this is really nonsense. there is such difference, and it's called a spine.
mircea_popescu: no, looky. if the case is that the knowledge vessel was a jwz, which is to say all juice no politics, then the truthful rendition of the situation is, that the knowledge in question was removed from its unstable situation, to a more sensible one. otherwise, if the vessel in question is a balanced construction, the attempts to "remove" run into the age old "nsa can't hold bitcoin and stay nsa" issue as discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: but the discussion mayn't reduce to this. mere lateral example.
asciilifeform: it isn't entirely clear to me what the chinese even need from usa
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even a matter of sons ; the usg has no sons, nor any vigor in the seed. it's a matter of desperation - everything americans don't buy, the chinese buy, take apart and move to china. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: wouldn't it.
mircea_popescu: (ah and in case anyone wonders where the money went ? M&A market. if you don't know what this is - it's when i buy your daughter to take her to shanghai.)
asciilifeform: i just don't see this mythical 'fiat but not at all usgtronic' planet.
asciilifeform: neutron bomb usa and it won't move a mm ?
a111: Logged on 2016-05-23 13:32 mircea_popescu: anyway ; yes, fat isn't innervated nor particularly perfused, and the more distant the less connected. which is why really fat people CAN'T actually lose weight. how would they, it is closer to a burlap backpack than a tissue.
mircea_popescu: anyway ; yes, fat isn't innervated nor particularly perfused, and the more distant the less connected. which is why really fat people CAN'T actually lose weight. how would they, it is closer to a burlap backpack than a tissue. ☟︎
Framedragger: (i did store the 'banners' associated with all those IPs though, would consider merging them into the CSVs to become comments. don't know how useful, but curious (e.g. whether weak device is an embedded appliance/router etc))
Framedragger: i'm afraid these keys won't contain any additional comments or email addresses. while the latter are stored on the ssh host, they are not transmitted during key exchange, viz.: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/e9318ddf-dfb5-494b-8c75-ecda5ebe30b1/
Framedragger: (scanning the whole ipv4 in the sense of "check if something's listening behind this port, for all IPs" is apparently the easy part, even with no/little investment. you don't need to use stateful sockets etc. extracting particular info after doing some back-and-forth is where it's harder to scale.)
diametric: saw some kind of schism happen, didn't realize it actually resulted in the fracturing of the channel.
mircea_popescu: i'm so sick of computer-pseudoscience i can't put it in words.
asciilifeform: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=T.L.R.Halbesma%40uva.nl
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 12452866785 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Timo Halbesma <T.L.R.Halbesma@uva.nl>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EA3020CDCD4CECB547E320E46FF6F6686F397656E19A4C437143EF9D6B0DAC28
asciilifeform: i don't recall the shithub keys dump having yet been thrown in
mircea_popescu: (really, i only quoted it for the very interesting introduction - plainly states that teh beoble hate us, and always have, and logically always will. because the fruits of satan's own belly can't do no better. o.O)
mircea_popescu: he was being held hostage, it doesn't count :D
mircea_popescu: you can't revoke a bull. they stand for permanent memory of mankind
mircea_popescu: if it has the key in db, then x ; if it doesn't, then y.
mircea_popescu: t eis collectas imponunt, ab ipsis suorum proventuum vel bonorum dimidiam decimam, seu vicesimam, vel quamvis aliam portionem aut quotam exigunt et extorquent, eosque moliuntur multifarie subiicere servituti, suaeque submittere ditioni, et, (quod dolenter referimus,) nonnulli ecclesiarum praelati ecclesiasticaeque personae, trepidantes ubi trepidandum non est, transitoriam pacem quaerentes, plus timentes maiestatem temporalem
mircea_popescu is formulating the other plan, wherein the schmucks haven't learned ANYTHING from the bitcoin experience, will continue with uppity bullshit and we'll in short order end up having to organize bombing campaigns because idiot socialists imagine they may arrest republican folk.
Framedragger: heheh. but YEAH, don't worry i haven't given up, formulating plan, meanwhile scanning continues because fuck 'em
asciilifeform: it isn't stored as text, and converting will eat many cycles
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-22#1470431 << hmh actually not sure now. it doesn't seem that the email addy in the ssh host's pubkey is sent to client. yet you're right in that the email addy is included (in e.g. /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub). will check (ssh-keyscan explicitly doesn't give/relay it though) ☝︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-22#1470431 << not server keys (but ssh client keys do, yes), it would appear. my stolen and modified ssh key unpacker doesn't see any more info - only PEM'd e and N (as well as ip and type of key, e.g. "ssh-rsa") ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-22#1470382 << srsly, you don't care that '3' is found in some 234323454329489858734587372586775363478 ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-22 01:20 Framedragger: ..hrm. zmap finished scanning sixteen /8's (so a sixteenth of ipv4 space, minus reserved blocks), but in those blocks there were two known servers running openssh which was picked up by ssh-keyscan. they weren't picked up by zmap. if the thing is unreliable then it's worthless (it still found > 95k of ssh servers though, but...)
Framedragger: ..hrm. zmap finished scanning sixteen /8's (so a sixteenth of ipv4 space, minus reserved blocks), but in those blocks there were two known servers running openssh which was picked up by ssh-keyscan. they weren't picked up by zmap. if the thing is unreliable then it's worthless (it still found > 95k of ssh servers though, but...) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf your search box is not grep-compatible. srlsy for fucks sake i can't search for '3 divides' without getting a pile of rubbish
Framedragger: oh it doesn't do that
mircea_popescu: socialist spawn can't fucking live in socialist world, c'est tout.
mircea_popescu: the tsar impedance mismatch created communism, ie, eco-first socialism ; the ww1 shock created national-socialism, ie, "we're all equal except for those schmucks" - and perhaps noteworthy here that the nazis couldn't quite decide if they're enumerating badness or goodness or what. but the idea was, "socialism within the bubble"
a111: Logged on 2016-03-12 00:40 mircea_popescu: (actually, amusingly enough, swift docs date from just about the era ada was fashionable. there was such a time - just like that time in the 90s when everyone was eager to implement linux-y things and you didn't really have to sell it at all, whole cities just switched for no reason)
trinque: asciilifeform │ if they don't, they fight - where's the enigma here << and then they fight, and someone wins, and someone's dominant, and whoops what happened to anarchy
Framedragger: approx 4.2 GB of bandwidth used for 14.6k sshd-running IPs, hit rate ~= 0.02% (these are rather random, not guaranteed-to-be-used (only definitely not in reserved blocks) subnets it's possible zmap just doesn't flush to file that often at all - will check later wtf's happening). $0.155 per GB of bandwidth (first 15 GB free). running for 72 min
asciilifeform: not wholly unrelated though. being the reason we haven't any serious anarchic communes to kick around no moar, is that they're no good at war.
mircea_popescu: unless your fellow said himself "and if they don't, they fight and whoever wins was right", he's what i say not what you say.
asciilifeform: if they don't, they fight - where's the enigma here
mircea_popescu: "and if they don't ?" "uh."
asciilifeform doesn't get it
Framedragger: well i did use "folks" which isn't a word from the most high register so to speak :)
Framedragger: no but for real. thing is, cs folk usually haven't even read their own "definitive" texts (shannon, e.g.)
Framedragger: yeah i can't hold interesting convos with these cs people for long sometimes, it's like, fuck you humanity you suck
mircea_popescu: it's just that the majority of computer folk are uncouth and didn't read their linguistics and semiology.
Framedragger: nono, i just mean, i can just use that particular machine for dirty work, cause i can't use that ip for other purposes anyway, it's tainted
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i don't understand, wtf aren't they making pastries this way! at first i thought that's dough on her tits for sure... but no, just paint ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc it was some variation of 'you don't need to know how magic trick works'
mircea_popescu: same fucking reason the poor guy goes : cuz he can't make sense of the world around him
mircea_popescu: does a conference a week since 1995, hasn't yet explained the difference between things "not meant for practical use" and the rest. wtf is impractical use.
mircea_popescu: no ; then you don't yet know. the time to review is when you notice the walls.
mircea_popescu: you know still couldn't locate any of them things...
asciilifeform: in other 'nyooz', guess who ~doesn't~ run winblowz: https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2011/06/02/valdai-club-3-touring-the-don-2n-radar-facility
mircea_popescu: "one" doesn't know much.
mircea_popescu: and hate dun enter into it. derp's been making outright false, marginally false and otherwise tendentious statements since just about the day it became clear the oh-so-genius plan won't catch. i see no merit in it and reason to entertain them.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469949 << that part was handled by davout ; i'm pretty sure he got his half from him ; in any case davour charged it against me in the final settlement, and i dun expect he didn't remit it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but a fella being drummed out of mpex with dekulakization is a newsworthy thing imho.
mircea_popescu: didn't seem particularly interesting. it's in public now, at any rate.
a111: Logged on 2015-12-20 00:13 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1348050 << you know what's great? rat poison STILL WORKS even if you don't explain to the rats exactly ~how~ !
asciilifeform: 'Gavin will "win" because most people won't even realize there was a debate, let alone a "war". Gavin has the network alert key, so when he says "please upgrade to avoid being left on a fork", most people will upgrade. Hard to get away from that. Mircea Popescu isn't likely to persuade anyone that he's right because in all of the three blog posts on this subject I found, nowhere does he bother to explain why he's opposed to a larger
dignork: Thanks BingoBoingo glad to see you guys, but I'm just lurking after a long time out, haven't read the logs yet.
mircea_popescu: the problem is they didn't have intelligent people at the top. this generally haunts.
hanbot: Maybe you should pay their server bills so they don't have to "not advertise" their begging campaign every quarter.
hanbot: Pity they don't have a bio article.
ben_vulpes: trees don't grow overnight
mircea_popescu: wouldn't kibbutz incubation properly render as kibbutzation ?
mircea_popescu: "he won't call..."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: teething isn't really my problem
mircea_popescu: i read it to mean he doesn't use django.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, ben_vulpes has been making noises about things ; for one. maybe mike_c is bored, who knows. till you ask you don't know.
asciilifeform: not purging, but further entumouring, there isn't a way to do it cleanly
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: that was useful. so btw this fromphuctor__, i take it he hasn't much reappeared. was good idea, his
jurov: but we can't have selfsigs, only the key
mircea_popescu: principally in the form of "keys aren't pgp format, but tmsr format, of which ssh, pgp and others are idiotic restatements"
mircea_popescu: ah right, and fp isn't even a function of modulus.
mircea_popescu: and it is at this juncture we discover alf doesn't actually have that implemented yet :D
Framedragger: can't think of a specific word - there's a notion "idiots' ship" - durnių laivas - and also: the whole word "village" (kaimas) has very clear connotations of idiocy, in and of itself, and is used thusly sometimes
Framedragger: didn't you say something to the tune of "i'd like to die here" :)
mircea_popescu: weren't they nigh on separated last time ?
mircea_popescu: you'd love argentina then. ALL they do is stop and chat in the streets ; half hour at a time, people who don't know each other.
Framedragger: it's too cold, folks don't talk much in streets, though you can bump into an old guy who invites you to chess for a beer (and by god he needs that beer), he does well, you're in a very cheap shitty bar and you realize it's now closed and the bar is serving vodka to the regulars who're now around you, sometimes succeeding in discussing something interesting
Framedragger: i don't know what to think of that country. i mean, it's shit, but this is sorta a priori
Framedragger: i guess this shouldn't be totally surprising
mircea_popescu: you know, they announced a major bug which looked just like a nsa plant ; promised a full investigation to soon follow ; haven't spoken a word since.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-20#1469514 <<< toldja I couldn't forget that one, spent half the morning reading turdtalk again as I was editing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: people who've been following along usually can't summon the interest, having other flags that call them stronger.