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a111: Logged on 2016-06-05 14:09 asciilifeform: fella wasn't quite certain what he wanted, and soon after the publication, devil approached him with bargain.
gabriel_laddel: It doesn't.
asciilifeform: now if only clim weren't dog-slow.
asciilifeform: can't be arsed.
mod6: shouldn't be too bad
mod6: anyway, i can make it happen. just gotta ensure its fast, don't want any io to slow stuff down.
phf: maybe the id can be optional, but fwiw it doesn't need to match what the btcbase has. as long as it's unique and incremental on your system. the main usecase is that if the bot drops, for the duration of reconnect logger wants to know what happened on channel. so can do since_time=<+-10 minutes around drop time> and then fuzzy shuffle messages in
mod6: but the rest I can do, and I won't be logging messages as this thing will drop pms.
asciilifeform: it isn't as if the site somehow resists crawling of the usual sort.
asciilifeform: jurov: i don't. but it is not entirely unreasonable conjecture.
mod6: yeah, it should work -- it won't be perfect, but it should at least get us started.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ah, i wasn't criticizing your thang.
asciilifeform: which yes, mircea_popescu doesn't ever see
jurov: but a desktop usually won't eat 400W either, or are you mining? have 24" CRT?
jurov: pete_dushenski: i don't believe these can sustain anywhere like 15min at 400W
BingoBoingo: Anyways diesel is better generators, but there aren't non-chicom small diesel inverter generator makers.
BingoBoingo: Nah, don't want to fuck with CO
pete_dushenski: why don't you suggest i run mercedes inside house ?
phf: ben_vulpes: there's also http://www.lispworks.com/products/lw4mr.html but i haven't tried it yet
phf: they did a lot of work to ensure that things just work, so you put a couple of annotations in your lisp and can call those lisp functions from either android or ios. the two limitations is that you don't get an easy way to call from lisp back into native (at least that was the case when i tried it). the idea is that you write all your logic in lisp and use native exclusively as view. and second limitation is that built executable lacks compiler, s
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski silicon is element 14, ~silicone~ is a type of synthetic rubber ! i can't even fathom how folks confuse the 2
a111: Logged on 2016-02-26 03:53 mircea_popescu: yeah well. meanwhile at reality ranch, all contact sports have this phenomena, where people age out of it. it's natural. but they don't WANT out of it, because they fucking liked it. so they become radio commentators, referees, whatever they can find.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477797 << what i can't figure out is why they never talk. for srs, what does the schmuck have to lose now ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: just because people turn heads when passing crashes doesn't mean running car into wall is "a sexuality"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477594 << is this the new dekulakization ? "oh, prof sanders didn't even do anything, it was black women all along" ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's the bitch now innit. that's at least what i was longfaced about earlier, "in practical eavesdropping you don't EVER care about message integrity. if your algebraic cyrptosystem is porous to someone saying "bring me all messages that discuss ALEODOR" or whatever, and then he can discern something about them - say that ALL possible forms of one use it in the negative - you're still as fucked as a three year old in a pedo
mircea_popescu: though some material recently linked made a very good point : "np complete" and other hardness discussions aren't even meaningful here. the term refers to WORST CASE, not to average case or anything.
asciilifeform: all that anybody ever proved is that you can't solve ALL CASES of something.
jurov: can't we abuse polynomial roots somehow for proven trapdoor function? Like, Abel–Ruffini theorem proves you can't solve certain polynomials algebraically
asciilifeform: but 'omg!1111111 inconvenient!11111 can't reuse key!11'
asciilifeform: picture if every time 'mars didn't rise on schedule' ALL BRIDGES FELL.
asciilifeform: i still can't fully swallow how there is this entire field that isn't certain whether it exists or is simply smelling own farts.
asciilifeform: it isn't magic - you can still distinguish plausible cyphertexts from rubbish, it just takes more cycles.
mircea_popescu: i've not done the actual math, per N size, but there's entire classes of messages that "could" work. you won't get enough precision until you have MANY messages.
asciilifeform: this is again true of any system that isn't otp.
mircea_popescu: suppose you know P and Q. ok. what now ? you can't actually calculate N.
mircea_popescu: mno, because you don't actually have something to solve.
mircea_popescu: "well... all my friends are gone...i'm so lonely... listen, why don't you bring them back to me ?"
BingoBoingo: Haven't heard it
shinohai: Wonder if he has ever sued a hooker from clist because her snatch wasn't tight enough.
asciilifeform: 'What the 66-year-old Massachusetts man didn't know then is that he would spend the next 6 ½ years embroiled in a complicated and confusing legal dispute in Indiana over that printer, which, according to its buyer, was broken. He would find himself liable for about $30,000 in damages. He would pay a lawyer at least $12,000 in his battle to escape the legal mess. And it all started with a piece of hardware he sold online for about $4
shinohai: I wasn't sure it was lulzy enough, but may do a brief writeup before gf gets here.
asciilifeform: perhaps mircea_popescu doesn't deal in such.
asciilifeform: every CD player and long distance telephone connection, lasers today are manufactured by the billions. At the heart of laser action is perfect alignment of the crests and troughs of myriad waves of light. Their location and momentum must be theoretically knowable. But this violates the holiest canon of Copenhagen theory: Heisenberg Uncertainty. Bohr and Von Neumann proved to be true believers in Heisenberg's rule. Both denied that t
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov i recently dug up your oldie, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-December/000186.html , and had a thought: did we ever investigate why, e.g., 0.8+, doesn't leak ?
asciilifeform: it isn't the 5 minutes, but 'how far you can push the tachometer arrow in the absolute'
mircea_popescu: there also isn't such a thing.
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for trilema, people'd still derp about how bitcoin is here to save the geeks and the poor.
asciilifeform: i was referring to the 'we are small and weak and please don't rape us gnomecoin folk' types.
mircea_popescu: well, pick different abstractions i guess, because the only response stavka has for "we don't have adequate tools" is coming down a gun barrel.
mircea_popescu: this isn't the case ; and that it isn't the case is proof archsufficient it knows EXACTLY what's what and OPTS to not do what i tell it to.
mircea_popescu: it's bullshit. of course the machine has fi. just... it likes to ambiguously pretend it does or doesn't, like a lazy bitch.
mircea_popescu: i'm willing to bet it isn't,.
mircea_popescu: there's ~no reason you couldn't allocate memory properly, c or no c.
mircea_popescu: you didn't wipe the program scope ; you wiped the frame in question.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can't do this on c machine, because it has, e.g., a heap also
mircea_popescu: that may be, but there's still absolutely no reason it can't IMMEDIATELY RETURN WHATEVER CURRENT PROCEDURE ITS IN
asciilifeform: fella wasn't quite certain what he wanted, and soon after the publication, devil approached him with bargain. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform checked out "moron lab". didn't live long did it.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've seen them, they simply aren't to be met with regularly anywhere i've been
mircea_popescu: i honestly believe the item exists because you were bored one day ; and people couldn't distinguish between "social media signal" and actual need.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't even going there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is a winner. the euro fictions ~don't~ really compile in cn.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you still have a bunch of old l0gz links on your www, because didn't massage the 'log1.bitcoin-assets....' cases.
asciilifeform: this example makes 0 sense tho. if i know that martians will devour me in 1 week, i sure as fuck wouldn't work
mircea_popescu: kinda why the whole "materialism", be it whichever socialist flavour is so lulzy. dude, srsly, "you've solved the problems of people" ? gee whiz, i wonder why they can't be arsed to pick up your calls.
mircea_popescu: there isn't an algo. not something to use, or w/e. the results aren't within your hands.
mircea_popescu: one doesn't have to be a highwayman anymore than anything else. what, you gotta be a highwayman now ?
asciilifeform: no? isn't it 'womanly cowardice', earning motherfucking bread, doing a job ?
mircea_popescu: i can't say i particularly care either way.
asciilifeform: so if that ain't you, young cn fella with aspirations, study the bloody poems and deposit balls in this here jar.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i gotta take college debt on, i'm in a weak negotiating position. otherwise i don't get to my bright fucking future".
mircea_popescu: can one even kill himself with a nagant ? ain't it too long ?
mircea_popescu: "you want to get through, this is how you get through. you don't want to get through, here's an unsupervised mailbox"
mircea_popescu: you can't well mix these.
mircea_popescu: and what, blog articles can't ?
mircea_popescu: well, if it's all in eye of beholder, then books ~can't be ruined~.
mircea_popescu: hey, you can't special plead. you gotta argue to mechanism.
mircea_popescu: there isn't a way inside here, is there ?
mircea_popescu: the fact remains that either you agree EVERYONE writing as many books as humanly possible is really a benefit for books, somehow (cuz you get access to supposedly valuable whatever the fuck you wouldn't have otherwise) ; or else you agree random internet dude picking up the web mantle and derping about how "the cathedral" sucks is really fucking up the work of the actual good men involved in tearing that shit down.
mircea_popescu: sooner or later it'll come back to "oh, you don't seriously mean to kill my children!111"
mircea_popescu: specifically because while it won't be fundamentally correct, it'll still be interesting, and different interests are for different people.
mircea_popescu: so you don't believe the situation where a man who is not in point of fact qualified to discuss these matters nevertheless discusses them actually "dillutes the internet".
asciilifeform: they didn't turn into 'agreement club' until much later.
mircea_popescu: you like to act as if "books" are the same thing ; they aren't ; mostly because you like to think "people reading books" are the same thing. they also aren't. and sure as fuck "internet agreement clubs" aren't political instruments.
asciilifeform: phriendz don't let phriendz install non-ecc dram.
mircea_popescu: google doesn't even register its name
mircea_popescu: hahaha so i don't fucking get it... they get to keep pretending that tor's not schweizer, and what's the derp get ?
mircea_popescu: the problem is that it doesn't include the important parts.
mircea_popescu: ftr, the problem with the sha1sum isn't even that it's 160 bits ; worse fates could be devised.
Framedragger: your phuctor uses a different hashing scheme. but i suppose wide deployment would be hard and also ultimately futile, given that i assume folks here haven't planned a bright future for gpg
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-04#1476783 << don't forget that a "full" gpg fingerprint is a shitty 160 bit sha1sum, heh ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with high culture. you can't REALLY translate huxley say in french. what translate ?
mircea_popescu: ru doesn't have cartarescu cycles in it.
mircea_popescu: i don't think that one's possible in any other lang.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476751 << fella doesn't seem to presently ~have~, yet, an ideology, beyond a quite accurate picture of 'the west is phucked' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 23:09 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1476485 << ahahaah hater. listen, just because japan is better than russia doesn't mean you hafta get sore. japan's always been better than russia :D
mircea_popescu: can't simmer down any ?
mircea_popescu: that's actually how you distinguish actual people from the plain cuntspawn. and that's why attempted reductionisms a la "bros" don't actually work.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475889 << the behaviour is so deeply instinctual in humans, ex-goatherder chicks will naturally hallucinate how other girls they don't like don't love you enough. ☝︎