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asciilifeform: !~later tell adlai plz consider making some ~use~ of your lispmuscles in a constructive direction. or, failing that, to tune in quietly and looksy-but-dun-touchsy. or you ~will~ end up drummed out, and this time i will not object nor would mircea_popescu et al particularly care if i did .
adlai thinks mircea_popescu wants him to shut up! so if i don't !!up myself again -- good afternoon, good evening, and goodnight.
asciilifeform: to quote mircea_popescu 'i have nfi how my ancestors ended up with me, and anyone who claims to know this about self is full o shit'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu realizes that gnudiff encoding is also nonunique, neh?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a very spiffy article a while back
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had similar case right in this shithole town, victim was spared (though not his animals) only because he turned out to be... the mayor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa 'raid' is specifically a 'kick the dig until it bites, then shoot it' exterminator tactic against would-be cop shooters
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 01:16 a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 08:25 ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/a/KuPJv << some kind of voodoo magic in there knows i moved that format string around
asciilifeform: (incidentally you can cheat, mircea_popescu-style, by dividing the diffables into segments using 2+ newlines as divmarkers, and nw-ing the resulting segments, then outputting the diffs.)
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> i didn't realize malt liquor was that fungible << It is!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: your screenshit looks like it could very well have come from bramcohenalgo
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i have nfi how these work, but maybe bramcohen's algo (linked earlier)
asciilifeform: when mircea_popescu wakes up, he might have a less gentle and more memorable way to phrase this truism.
asciilifeform: where didja get the colours ben_vulpes
a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 08:25 ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/a/KuPJv << some kind of voodoo magic in there knows i moved that format string around ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://experiments.mostafa.io/public/needleman-wunsch << graphical nw demo
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes might see what i mean
asciilifeform: foo.mirce_popescus_neato_difftron.vpatch
asciilifeform: it was a somewhat pathological example. but i will point out that in this system , mircea_popescu's tab-corrector patch would be 100% human-readable.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: What is punycode ? - Learn how to use punycode to register IDNs at ...: <https://www.dynadot.com/community/help/question/what-is-punycode>; Punycoder - the IDN / Punycode converter: <https://www.punycoder.com/>; RFC 3492 - Punycode : A Bootstring encoding of Unicode for ...: <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3492>
asciilifeform: (iirc it was mircea_popescu !)
asciilifeform: has mircea_popescu ever tried to implement traditional unix diff ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: like pkzip, or just about any format since 1962
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: really idea is stolen from teco
asciilifeform: esp. if ben_vulpes makes a proper aligner.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 00:04 mircea_popescu: i'm not fucking learning an aminoacid matrix to be able to use diff i tell you that,
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll suggest a 'p-tronic' format for diffs. N\........ specifies N retained-of-a octets (e.g., 5\abcde ) ☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aye, 'twas a step in that direction
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes slowly moving towards literate code. here's a thought... why not put the comments straight into the patch ?
pete_dushenski thgouth of mega italian architecture conference / awards programme when saw ben_vulpes' 'biennale'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: lol
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 18:15 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556766 << state its math part sometime.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: not a formal one, afaik
asciilifeform: anyway algo should be clear to ben_vulpes .
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you probably don't need a similarity matrix other than the unit matrix for text diffs, now that i think about it.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ty fxd
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/KAkk0/?raw=true ☟︎
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: are you ready for some ugly ?
asciilifeform: also ben_vulpes's thing is interesting .
adlai: mircea_popescu: thank you for the sauce though, i was about to puzzle out the exact meaning of "M%S-th" behaviorally
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why is R 0....0 in step1 ?
adlai: pete_dushenski: shana tova akhi!
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: speaking of which, phuctor is still in repair shop , engine lifted out, cleaning pistons, etc
pete_dushenski: cheers to mircea_popescu for the regifting
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/mp_fabulous_hashonator.php
asciilifeform: (unless mircea_popescu has one already)
asciilifeform: i suggested this, iirc, a day or two ago to ben_vulpes
a111: Logged on 2014-10-08 19:19 mircea_popescu: einstein never got the damned formula out because luce irigaray didn't see why he'd privilege the speed of light over other speeds that are so much more important to us. and so on.
davout: ben_vulpes: just 'inserted some line before and after'
a111: Logged on 2015-09-09 19:07 mircea_popescu: the idea was to make them user-enacted.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 02:18 mircea_popescu: davout your four main pieces are a b and c ?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 01:42 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595871 << in practice this is how it works, and has, for at least 3 years now.
mircea_popescu: but to please ben_vulpes : it may amuse you to learn that ask.fm put in a mitigation for my bot (ill designed, and fail to work) sometime on dec 30th. AND THEN apparently (accidentally ?) reverted it sometime jan 2nd.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes wut is this virutal server ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it was 'cryptography engineering'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the blue-cover crapola thing is technically a different b00k
a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 03:14 mod6: ben_vulpes: fyi, second edition has the red cover, the first edition is the blue cover one.
asciilifeform: https://cp4space.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/is-craig-wright/ << small vintage lulgem from mircea_popescu's link
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:35 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my current (wholly nonexpert) understanding is that airplane DELIBERATELY omits 'hard interlocks' wherever possible, on the principle that not-being-able-to-X-when-you-must is worse than can-X-when-you-mustn't
mod6: ben_vulpes: fyi, second edition has the red cover, the first edition is the blue cover one. ☟︎
asciilifeform: '... and that was how we found that the average policeman is not so smart, but very strong' (from -- iirc -- one of mircea_popescu's articles)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa, the ~only way to achieve this 'feat' is to pour into jerrycan first
asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's scheme, imho it should be written exactly like-so
asciilifeform is a bit more 'doomer' than mircea_popescu on this subj, and does not see a future for 'anyone can send packet to anyone' net in ~general~
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here i gotta agree, the 'allcomers can get their tx candidates evaluated' is doomed
asciilifeform: it is physical reality, and ergo by definition no moar 'insane' than gravity. unless mircea_popescu offers a breakthrough where we can test doublespendity without keeping blockchain around at all
asciilifeform: (a tx can have valid form in all sense other than being a doublespend, mircea_popescu knows this)
mircea_popescu: and in other alt-universes, http://68.media.tumblr.com/29a57cee1f8350a5c981f7ec5d318221/tumblr_mqko9plKqo1r7dgcpo8_1280.png
asciilifeform goes to reread mircea_popescu's scheme
asciilifeform: in the case of candidate-block and candidate-mempooltx queue receiver (from outside the walls), mircea_popescu proposes to throw out even the weak logic for banning obvious crapola that we have today in trb?
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 20:48 mircea_popescu: in particular N.B should be "older overwrites newer" style ring buffer. of particular concern are situations where the buffer is set shorter than the longest reorg, in which case the node will wedge. TRB.N not accepting blocks with index lower than highest of B.B is for sure not feasible. "how many behind" should be an operator knob.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how does txtron accept/reject without talking to blockchaintron?
BingoBoingo: OMG ben_vulpes wrote on Step 9!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: a non-algebraic ('programmatic') hash algo opens the possibility of crafted cpu-ddos
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you know how to get effect entirely analogous to gas turbulence in a purely electric machine, there are many folks who will clap, do say.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: to take toy example: 'game of life' playing field state, with initial state S and move count M, naively might seem like good crypto
asciilifeform: and if you want reading material, reread the thread where mircea_popescu suggested crypto using transcendental constants etc
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: consider the things you actually want from a cryptographic hash
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: lulzy contrast of the solid 'hp oscilloscope' goodness of the console buttons, with the crapple turd
ben_vulpes: see http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=960_1477239016
davout: ben_vulpes: piloting when you're actually in the plane is an entirely different thing
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wai's that
davout: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Understanding_Propeller_Torque_and_P-Factor#Propeller_torque_effect
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes had a 'trains' boyhood didn't he.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: my current (wholly nonexpert) understanding is that airplane DELIBERATELY omits 'hard interlocks' wherever possible, on the principle that not-being-able-to-X-when-you-must is worse than can-X-when-you-mustn't ☟︎
asciilifeform: davout, ben_vulpes , et al : it is also tricky to properly rule out the situation where split-trb node behaves like a 'split-brain patient', and external observer gets contradictory answers from it to some possible question
asciilifeform: let's take the cuts as specified by mircea_popescu earlier.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what means 'as a bignum' ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes -- what height are your 'solipsist nodes' up to nao?
asciilifeform: trb miner is mircea_popescu's 'fleet in being'
asciilifeform: to steal from mircea_popescu's article on subj, 'get inseminated on purpose, rather than 'because hey, there was a party, and i like to drink''
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho it is necessary to 'defile grandfather's pistol' in certain carefully-selected ways, but only if it can be done while making it clear that it was defiled in ~these but not other, unspoken~ ways
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, http://68.media.tumblr.com/d643fbf482be283423336539830d4710/tumblr_oahu79jAGK1vyw3iyo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these: next!111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely certain that the problem is solvable (it IS possible to define a richer diff language that permits block moves, but this also permits inscrutable-to-naked-eye patches to exist.)
a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 15:15 mircea_popescu: anyway, http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/08/grade_inflation.html ; total must-read.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can think of one (nonfatal, but quite unpleasant) headache: without a less-idiotic replacement for gnudiff, the resulting cut-trb becomes very difficult to pedigree to trad-trb . sorta like the problem with the tabs/spaces cleanup proposed by mircea_popescu last year
asciilifeform: it might be worth mircea_popescu's time to write a detailed sketch of this item.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-20 19:42 mircea_popescu: nope. blockchain part will get to it when it gets to it, and tell you. until then, peer part builds queues.