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asciilifeform: funnily enuff, hotel gurl 'offered to help'
mp_en_viaje: i just make the women lug it.
asciilifeform: and i had to lug that 100 up the stairs in oddball BingoBoingostani hotel where 'want lift? here's some stairs to it'
asciilifeform: hey that 200 is only 2x asciilifeform's 100 lol
mp_en_viaje: >5lbs of costume jewelry tho.
mp_en_viaje: i packed a few whips and other irreplaceable leather etc torture/domestic implements. but no actual furniture.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 17:41 asciilifeform: reminds me of a folk story from late '50s. shah of iran and his wife went to visit su. she, of course, takes entire household!111 literally, furniture and all, in classic eastern tradition;
mp_en_viaje: im like five-six hundred in, buying cappuccinos five bux at a time. and i'm not even spent yet!!
diana_coman: heh, this time in the civilised world where they actually have coffee houses?
diana_coman: onth I can't see anything wrong in adding "feel like x" to a pizarro add if that does anything
mp_en_viaje: coffee tour!
diana_coman: not to mention that being/doing something ~always costs something while feelin' like it costs ~nothing, so no surprise really.
PeterL: recently I saw an ad for some brokerage service, they actually included as one of the selling points "you can feel like a trader!"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: tlp had the piece re 'they get faux-brokerage acct to Feel Like a Trader'
diana_coman: closer to feeling like launching one, most probably the whole point anyway.
asciilifeform: and what's moar, i've seen ~same nonsense pop up again an' again. 'we'll describe how satellite is launched , for audience of 8 y.o., this will SURELY put us closer to actually launching one' etc ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 11:51 mp_en_viaje: moreover, and overwhelmingly important, some duning-krugerands retarded enough to not understand that their cunt map they made (coming from the same place their "let's make a pact to get laid before highschool starts" "pact" came, ie, complete insanity and a ridiculously nonsensical worldview, wherein they're magically the only agents, and the world exists on the basis of their mental processes and in no other way, notwithstanding the obvious probl
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907456 << linked item is a hybrid of exactly this, and ye olde 'stone soup' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 11:34 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907141 << im not so sure the generalized problem is that interesting. he has a solid point, "are you kidding me, i can identify your ethernet stack with a fucking pickup needle".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907441 << i'ma come back to this some time we both have a whole hour, it deserves own thrd ( and possibly -- article ) ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 09:47 mp_en_viaje: but! c) i show up, explain i got 3 people but ~200kgs of luggage (i'm fucking diana ross over here) and their idea was to.... pay for ticket, after which show up at airport, ~with no carrier guarantee whatsoever~. "pay us so many thousands to put yourself in such a spot, we can ask for any moar moneyz we think of".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907377 << they're ~all~ like this nao ('want guarantee -- go pay for freight container') , found this when doing piz expedition ☝︎
asciilifeform: bigendian is sadly ~extinct on extant market iron tho. to the point that i haven't even a working one in torture room to test on presently.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-25 16:52 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re the 'guillotine neck vs mandible', if it ain't obvious, i'll spell it out ftr : bigendian nums look 'ffaistic' when hexdumped, i.e. correct . littleendian -- you gotta mentally flip'em.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 09:57 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907026 << i can't conceive what small endian ~even is for~. what is it for ? i'm against even supporting it altogether, you want to computer, use a computer that netowrk oders.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907383 << i entirely agree ( tho last we had this thrd, mircea_popescu didn't... http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-25#1776201 ) ☝︎☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: last i dun into subj in depth, formed impression that usg may have exterminated (and swallowed the bones of) all extant makers of antifuse rom, in early '90s . on acct of the intrinsic radiation resistance of antifuse vs flash.
asciilifeform: i.e. you can buy all the 'otp eprom' you want, but they're ALL ordinary flash with the write pin (promisetronically) nonworking
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 09:33 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907031 << one actually wants to have an antifuse boot rom, yes.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907362 << funnily enuff, asciilifeform not long ago did the ~quarterly walk of parts catalogues, 'can haz genuine antifuse eprom?' (spoiler : 'nope' just like since when started lookin' in 2013 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-08 09:18 mp_en_viaje: btw, how's the cold asciilifeform ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-08#1907359 << mostly back in biz nao, ty ☝︎
mp_en_viaje is getting kinda tired of this chair, will mosy along now, but fully intends to check back in either later today or more likely tomorrow.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 21:57 PeterL: seems to be a function of how far from the price listed elsewhere that you start it
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907333 << kinda how it's supposed to go, really. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 21:48 BingoBoingo: Quite a lot of bidding this month
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907332 << yeah huh, maybe this is starting to work! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 16:04 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907304 << i formerly thought that this was obvious from the docs , but you ~can~ operate on vpatches without a vtron ( they're edible by trad. unix 'patch' util, and you can verify the sigs with anyffin roughly gpg-like , also by hand )
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907311 << yes, everything in the republic bootstraps naturally and self-evidently, because naturally and self-evidently IT WAS DELIBERATELY BUILT TO. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 13:24 phf: OriansJ: so i've thought about it, expressing concepts in forms for general consumption is a bad coping mechanism from a life time of being the smartest person in the room (assuming that it's not a ruse or self-delusion and you _are_ actually capable of clear thinking). problem is that it makes you lazy and rots the brain, and then when you're in the room of equals or superiors you suddenly discover that you're not practiced at
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907308 << not to mention a) insulting and b) counterproductive. whenever you say something dumbly you steal from the smart, to give to the dumb. this is both shameful, ie ethically wrong, and evil, ie, morally wrong. if you've decided to steal, always steal from the dumb to give to the smart. they make much better friends. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 12:17 OriansJ: phf: short version SVG that only supports lines and text but not SVG Animation or any of the other fun extras.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907307 << the map his vpatch viewer spits out should work with that subset ; so should something like http://wot.deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452.html ; if you don't see a circle of links under the fingerprint, i expect your "subset of svg" is actually not functional on some level. though as he says, the actual possibility of having such a custom svg is dubious altogeter. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 12:01 OriansJ: now I am willing to build from source tools (after an audit) that will work with v; so that I can interact with the patches directly but as I have not finished an audit nor trust anyone who has previously audited the code; I am left with the bad option of setting up a burn box to view the patches.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907304 << this is not a bad option lol, we do this exact thing alllll the damn time. how the hell else ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 11:08 OriansJ: phf: Tor-browser paranoid mode for reference
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907295 << lol, and then the kekscavalry lands. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: oh, and then there's phf saying the same thing himsefl.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907276 << as a factual matter, it seems to work fine without javascript : http://browsershots.org/http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=v ; it does not however work fine on broken browsers, which admittedly is quite the overwhelming majority of all browsers however counted. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:34 OriansJ: the javascript requirement is a bit odd though for the patches page
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907271 << i suspect he cribbed it from trilema, which has the ~same gracefully-degrading js-dropbox. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje had no idea this progressed so well.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:22 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: quick on the trigger finger today aintcha
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907247 << i confess the wikilinks irritated me also. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 20:07 mircea_popescu: bvt, so put the matter to him plainly, "look, the republic is considering this, either come over and make your case or what d oyou want to do" ?
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:04 asciilifeform: i cannot resist to ask OriansJ , what exactly then is he doing here ?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907216 << mostly, i told bvt to invite him over, i expect. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-26#1904872 ☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: somehow it's the first time in my memory.
mp_en_viaje: is this the first time btw ?
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:04 OriansJ: asciilifeform: Having spent time reading the log; I am less than impressed
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:01 OriansJ: asciilifeform: which is fine if you expect to only work alone and have the work lost in the sands of time.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907211 << you're being simply ridiculous. the only one who's in no danger of that is him. the one currently suffering from it, is you. don't be the guy with pellagra going about telling the furst of schwarzburg an' the count palatine of blois / lord elector of bavaria about "how to avoid pellagra". for one thing, they can't get it, they eat meat. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:01 OriansJ: asciilifeform: which is fine if you expect to only work alone and have the work lost in the sands of time.
mp_en_viaje: that's what effective means, preventing the uncommitted. http://trilema.com/2013/the-disadvantage-of-teaching-people-the-alphabet-and-nothing-more-is-that-you-have-to-somehow-put-up-with-a-bunch-of-retards-that-can-now-express-themselves-in-writing/ and all that.
mp_en_viaje: you wish to meaningfully participate, there's the http://trilema.com/2013/youre-gonna-have-to-learn-that-variety-speak/ step in your way. so, to put it quite bluntly, it is the ~only~ ffective mechanism of documentation reference, ~specifically because~ it denies access to rando "i think i'm s-m-r-t
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 00:00 OriansJ: asciilifeform: that is not an effective mechanism of documentation reference
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907209 << it's not effective for you, personally. this is deliberate, because we deliberately do not wish to support the "foss ethos", so to call this contemporaneous impudence where sophomore medical school students expect to walk into operating theatres and start cutting on bodies as they lay on operating tables. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-21 14:43 phf: i spent (mostly another whisperer and myself did) on getting vlm stable, and i'm unconvinced that some of the issues we encountered were purely "buggy vlm". there is, for example, a crash in floating point instruction that happens when you load document examiner on stock piratebay opengenera. i have no explanation for it still, because vlm code ~seems to do the right thing~. there are other similar instances
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:57 OriansJ: asciilifeform: we don't need cycle-accurate; we just need good enough to be able to write the pieces that will run on it directly
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907201 << jesus chryst, stop with the we. and yes, you do, because http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-21#1701489 ☝︎☝︎
mp_en_viaje: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bolix+ivory << top hit, of course... the one, the only, the true etcetera. last year's vintage, too.
mp_en_viaje: pointedly : is there anyone besides you tryna work on this M-whatever thinge ?
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:48 OriansJ: asciilifeform: well we can either wait for others to perform miracles or we can get off our asses and make them for the world to see.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907184 << who's the "we" here ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:46 OriansJ: asciilifeform: honestly, the chemicals and the patents are still a mess in that field plus the never could produce a chip that could exceed 100khz
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907179 << that's ok, the republic recognizes no patents. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: and so no, it is very much not a step, directions indifferent. it's a nonstep, very specifically what kanzure is famous for here -- nonsteps like these can readily take decades and deliver 0. exactly like masturbation (which the whole exercise precisely and transparently is, masturbation for the erectile dysfunctional).
mp_en_viaje: t to be confused for human beings.
mp_en_viaje: for all you know weevils think they're eating your rice with the best of intentions. and termites, and cockroaches, and all other pests. because your shit tastes good, and they like good stuff, and so of course it's all with the good intentions ? no ?
mp_en_viaje: em with this theory -- namely that they're agreeing to get laid ~even now~ and apparently their agreement still dun do jack shit, so maybe something else is the controlling factor ?) carries less utility than the clean paper they started with can assign ~themselves~ "good intentions" until they're blue in the face, for all the difference it makes. they're still ~ill intended~ blotter paper bandits, exactly like weevils.
mp_en_viaje: moreover, and overwhelmingly important, some duning-krugerands retarded enough to not understand that their cunt map they made (coming from the same place their "let's make a pact to get laid before highschool starts" "pact" came, ie, complete insanity and a ridiculously nonsensical worldview, wherein they're magically the only agents, and the world exists on the basis of their mental processes and in no other way, notwithstanding the obvious probl ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:44 OriansJ: asciilifeform: It is a guide for groups of people to pool together resources and setup a 1 micrometer fab to generate trusted chips. Yes it is far from optimal but it is a step in the right direction.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907171 << but a guide written by the blind. there's some very drastic limits to "good intentions", and ESPECIALLY to self-awarded "good intentions", you must understand. the best of intention do not permit a bunch of poor kids from rural idaho to write a half-useful (ie, useful in more than 50% of cases) munchen subway map. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:40 asciilifeform: looking at the 'process steps' docs in the linked page, it seems to be a straight wikipedization of ordinary schoolbook description of ic fab process
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:37 OriansJ: So, perhaps the most important question what has been actually decided about Sane Iron and what still needs definition?
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907157 << so far all that's actually been decided is the rng source (no, no tpossible to have sane iron w/o rng). ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: (in fairness -- the why not is that by now bitter experience with all sorts of "libre" dorks has clearly shown they function as an imperial decoy and ~nothing else. i can't distinguish between "3d printing" sintered "guns", raspberry pi bullshit, and any other such item).
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:35 OriansJ: Let us just assume the FPGA was not compromised and leverage it for the bootstrap work at this stage (I'll be going to pure LibreSilicon before I am finished but hey to each their own)
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:30 OriansJ: asciilifeform: well some of these patterns are universally useful and will exist even in Sane Iron systems
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907145 << this is a more doubtful claim. what patterns, tcp/ip ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:26 asciilifeform: the puzzler concerns 'general purpose' sabotaged fpga, rather than case where you know what the victim intends to connect and what protocols etc
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907141 << im not so sure the generalized problem is that interesting. he has a solid point, "are you kidding me, i can identify your ethernet stack with a fucking pickup needle". ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: there's a reason early airplanes "flew" rattan bodies on denim wings, and it ain't to do with science. it's just that aluminum machining comes once there's a reason for it, not before.
mp_en_viaje: specifically : just as ~any other idiocy~, carried by the high tide of industrialisation, would have just as falsely appeared just as successful as "modern democracy", and just as ~any other idiocy~, carried by the high tide of european stock, would have jus tas falsely appeared just as fundamental as xtianity, just so any attempt at computer design in the period of not-really-having-electronics'd have ended up braindamaged.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 23:13 OriansJ: There are very good reasons why typed memory systems appeared after high level languages did.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907115 << list them sometimes ; the agreed upon explanation here is that it's purely coincidental, much in the vein of christianity and european civilisation or "modern democracy" and prosperity. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-06#1907109 << liters natively typecast into cubic decimeters!!!! BY DESIGN! ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: it makes about as much sense to have os strings as it does to have os bitmaps.
mp_en_viaje: " belong. you wish a bitstream to appear a certain way on yoru terminal, step right up, ~adjust your terminal~.
mp_en_viaje: there's entirely no need of "utf/unicode/bs" ; the place where these go, as a mask atop bytes, is where "strings