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BingoBoingo: Yeah, twas just impatience on my part
mircea_popescu: ahahaha look at that, btcalpha is down
punkman: "Possible optimistic conclusion: the new definition of “improved” is going from 34% to 21% success rate. Long (and painfully) live improvements!" lol
mircea_popescu: if you check "at the end" now you have state.
mod6: i suppose i can just 'die' if one doesn't verify after each vpatch pressed. maybe that makes better sense.
mod6: if we wait until the end, we'll save some cycles -- and mathematically the hashes wouldn't come out right if somehow the files were diddled inbetween. but I can see some merit in checking after each patch is pressed.
mod6: asciilifeform et. al. V question: Should I verify the hashes after all patches are vpressed, or after each pressed vpatch in the topological order? ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> this girl's a born optimist is she <- I even gave optimistic conclusions ! at each point!! lolz
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyone in the foundation leadership familiar with the military strategy concept ? ben_vulpes mod6 ? << not in a very formal sense.
asciilifeform: i happen to know that in a four-story, four-block office bldg full of secretutes, a plumber is necessary more or less 1+/day
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mircea_popescu: hey, if you're going to build yourself a proper torture fortress you'll need all sorts of herraderia work done.
assbot: Logged on 20-12-2015 00:49:28; mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm getting used to the ~$30 contractor bills around here. 4 hour's labour, with tools and consumables. reasonable.
asciilifeform: iirc the main difficulty was the firing pin, it really does not want to be made of ceramic
asciilifeform: a circa-1970s su specimen is known to exist
asciilifeform: by various accounts, these are long ago sop
mircea_popescu: should be interesting once the plastic guns with plastic bullets start showing up at airports.
asciilifeform: or hm, this link isn't it
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asciilifeform: http://reviews.cabelas.com/8815/218143/herters-select-grade-tnj-handgun-ammunition-reviews/reviews.htm << nylon shell, traditional bullet
asciilifeform: (requires VERY fine tolerances)
asciilifeform: which was nontrivial to achieve for steel shell
mircea_popescu: i know why they went for it, but really. fucking dumb.
asciilifeform: but they buy it, yes
asciilifeform: it is also 'grungy' and ill-burning and american shooting aficionados scoff at the iron shells
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm getting used to the ~$30 contractor bills around here. 4 hour's labour, with tools and consumables. reasonable. ☟︎
asciilifeform: (so cheap that usa actually bought, through shills, when distributing in afghan in '80s !!111 and still.)
asciilifeform: so cheap, that you will find it cheap ~in k0ns0000m3r retail in usa~
mircea_popescu: if you're happy with ammo dollars (kinda dubious), pretty much every warlord in the middle east got himself as much this decade.
mircea_popescu: they didn't have that much did they.
asciilifeform: when the idiot ukrs sent their gold reserve to usg
asciilifeform: when even was the last time anybody gave somebody 100mn ~turkey dollars~
asciilifeform: prolly all went back to lizard coffer without so much as stopping for a drink.
mircea_popescu: s, for example, with teachers being able to choose the one that’s best for their needs.”
mircea_popescu: The company also wants to help educators locate standards-aligned instructional resources from multiple providers, matching them to students’ individual needs. “We want to create more choice for schools and educators,” Streichenberger says, but not in a way that is overwhelming or makes their lives more confusing. “But in a way that allows startups and companies to create different versions of learning analytic
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mircea_popescu: from gates & the happy lizzard club.
mircea_popescu: the article is gone. they had ONE HUNDRED MILLION
mircea_popescu: We stepped up to the occasion and supported our partners with passion, but we have realized that this concept is still new, and building public acceptance for the solution will require more time and resources than anyone could have anticipated.
mircea_popescu: It is a shame that the progress of important innovation has been stalled because of generalized public concerns about data misuse.
asciilifeform: and thus do not really shitbury the dem00000cracy of redditors on cable modems
asciilifeform: one problem with this scheme is that they'd all live in aws ip space
asciilifeform: (and i would argue that any kind of node whatsoever on aws or similar, is equivalent to a pseudonode instance)
asciilifeform: at any rate, if mircea_popescu or anybody else wants to run 10,001 pseudonodes, he knows how
BingoBoingo: "This is not true, compatibility with old nodes is funny preserved." << loller from minez
asciilifeform: sorta the equivalent of the syrian flood
asciilifeform: kill in the sense of severing from the actual living meat
mircea_popescu: its mere presence already accomplished most of that, anyway.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't kill anything. just make the "electoral process" a direct equivalent of the time man-of-the-year competition,.
asciilifeform: after the gossified one is up
asciilifeform: but it'd be a not-altogether-terrible way to kill the rangers' net
mircea_popescu: "The first great step was taken long ago," said Mr. Monk,–"taken by men who were looked upon as revolutionary demagogues, almost as traitors, because they took it. But it is a great thing to take any step that leads us onwards."
asciilifeform: and the possibility of it existing is a bug
asciilifeform: imho rather than a useful thing, it is actually a molasses-attack vector on the btc net
asciilifeform: everybody knows where to get it.
asciilifeform: that'd there be pseudonode.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't have to store anything to get the version string out.
assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums.
mircea_popescu: links nicely to anchoring stuff such as "the freedom to threaten" (see http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-01-2015#998185 ) and so on. ☝︎
asciilifeform: aws storage is, iirc, costly. this was one of the motivations for the enemy 'spv' crud etc
mircea_popescu: amusingly, it's a converse/correlate concept to the overton window.
asciilifeform: at any rate, whoever wants to do this, knows how, it is not a mega-pr0j3ct
asciilifeform is familiar but not in trbfoundation
mircea_popescu: anyone in the foundation leadership familiar with the military strategy concept ? ben_vulpes mod6 ?
mircea_popescu: costs significantly less than what's in the foundation coffers to line up 10k amazon instances and let it rip.
asciilifeform: and yet if we had 10,001 of these it would make for some mild lulz
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but in the plus side only takes 10 more to make it into the top 30
asciilifeform: but this is only mildly interesting and i will probably forget to watch very soon.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: part of the motivation for my experiment is to see how long it will be before they start 'accidentally' censoring it
BingoBoingo: In other news "/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ (99999)" is tied for 38th place by nodecount per 21.co's thing
asciilifeform: aha, exactly this
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 23:40:46; mircea_popescu: i've had it with this age of bullshit-reason where you gotta explain things to idiots with a first-paragraph-of-many-wikipedia-articles education as if everything can, or indeed should, be put in those terms.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1348050 << you know what's great? rat poison STILL WORKS even if you don't explain to the rats exactly ~how~ ! <<< precisely. moreover, every new generation of rats agrees that it doesn't work. which somehow does not have any deleterious effects on the rat poison itself. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Of course. Played with that already.
asciilifeform: and incidentally BingoBoingo, should he make use of this patch, can easily set another
asciilifeform: otherwise it simply happens to be the version string used by my nodez.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if the latest patch is ratified by the latter, then yes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my patches do not represent the official papal view of therealbitcoinfoundation
BingoBoingo: So is "/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ (99999)" the recommended version string for 0.5 branch until diddling because so few
BingoBoingo: Yeah, the orphanage kill was a great thing
asciilifeform: not even speaking of these.
BingoBoingo: Mine still rejects most tx because fee under 0.001
asciilifeform: (an unsynced trb node is not good for much! because it rejects most tx)
BingoBoingo: Oh, dulap is the one I've been connected to for a while nao
asciilifeform: this is a press of the programmable-versionstring patch and down.
asciilifeform: and kudos to mircea_popescu for providing a very spiffy box, on which phuctor will also very soon return
asciilifeform: with the frozen deps
asciilifeform: (rotor, if anyone forgets, is a static build from a locally-built gcc toolchain)
asciilifeform: incidentally, gentlemen, please welcome (back) dulap! 46.166.165.30:8333 (nosuchlabs.com), a trb node running bleedingedge-asciilifeform+rotor(musl) ☟︎
asciilifeform: what we have now, takes the vpatch's word for it.
asciilifeform: mod6: ideally a vtron would follow along as the patches are applied and actually verify the hashes, yes
mod6: asciilifeform: ok, so add the ability to check the hash of the output file (post press) against 'b' in the vpatch?
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 23:49:50; punkman: the basic idea of segwit is not bad, should have been there from the start, without the "softfork" complexity, no ANYONECANPAY-looking crap, without making another merkle tree, without blocksize discounts and enlargements, without planning to use it as a vehicle for future "painless" shitgnovation
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 23:40:46; mircea_popescu: i've had it with this age of bullshit-reason where you gotta explain things to idiots with a first-paragraph-of-many-wikipedia-articles education as if everything can, or indeed should, be put in those terms.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1348050 << you know what's great? rat poison STILL WORKS even if you don't explain to the rats exactly ~how~ ! ☝︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1348027 << this cost a good number of chumps their coin, aha ☝︎
asciilifeform: because mine, as everybody knows i think, did not.
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assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 23:26:49; mod6: <+asciilifeform> ;;later tell mod6 does yours (or anybody else's) 'v' verify the hashes ? << mine uses the vpatch hashes to build the dep map
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1348022 << there is no other way to do it! what i was asking was whether anybody's 'v' actually verifies that patching in the given sequence actually yields files having specified hashes. ☝︎