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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: exactly what i wanted, ty
mircea_popescu: i;d say is one of the lulziest ever.
ben_vulpes: esthlos: i made a gensym dir in /tmp, passed that to gpg for the workdir, and then various operations take a teardown key, defaulting to true which could be overriden to inspect keyring state should the operator so desire
mircea_popescu: i plan to publish in ~hour.
ben_vulpes: i think mod6's worked that way eventually too
ben_vulpes: esthlos: yeah, that's what i did and i think asciilifeform as well
trinque: esthlos: I don't think anyone demands you use precisely that name, if doing so results in more needless complexity than just picking another.
mod6: i agree, read alf's.
esthlos: I have it locally, compared parts of it after writing my implementation
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811127 << ben_vulpes: can you elaborate on what you envision here? for instance, I could build up and tear down keyring on every press, which seems only way to be stateless with gnupg. how does that sound? ☝︎
esthlos: trinque asciilifeform phf etc: what's the best way to deal with sbcl's package lock error when redefining run-program? my naive approach was to define a new package for the vtron. But I'm pounding my head against use-package anyway
ben_vulpes: i wouldn't be surprised to find an old key of mine in there from a mac
mircea_popescu: also, i'm barely 1/3 through sifting the data, this will take a few more hours.
asciilifeform: ( i stabbed at random and got a few pond scum )
mircea_popescu: meanwhile lulzdraft upgraded with a "i think i know his mom", also. ima go have lunch, this is a monster. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Digging through logs looking for where a paste might have been sent, but I have not found it yet.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am not seeing it in the archives
asciilifeform: https://i.redd.it/zu0guck3cmw01.png << lol
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i send you a dhl tracking thing some time last wk, take a look
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, o yeah. i think you'll like this.
mircea_popescu: aaanyways, i'm going to put pics and everything in it. why the hell not, make a proper lulzfest.
asciilifeform: i'ma come back to it.
mircea_popescu: wasn't going to include that part anyway. can do blogpost, or i guess here if you want to.
asciilifeform: btw mircea_popescu i'm beginning to think that my proof is wrong, and it gotta be 3 2/3-sized segments, rather than 4 1/2-sized , to work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, ahaha I KNOW!!! one of these people. rather hot chick, too.
BingoBoingo: I will. The last time a dhl package got held here (Christmas cookies from mom), there was a manilla envelope with retrieval instructions delivered after Aduanas reached their verdict.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-10 16:16 asciilifeform: i did. and instructed him to try ( it is supposed to, if dhl is to be believed, have landed in the city on monday )
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-10#1811909 << Current status is I am waiting for either the box or manilla envelope with DHL hostage papers to arrive in the mailbox. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i did. and instructed him to try ( it is supposed to, if dhl is to be believed, have landed in the city on monday ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: d interchangeable. which is how eg danielpbarron paid for random game account i allegedly at some point used or pete_d paid for flowers i sent chet etcetera.
asciilifeform: i have nfi if same orc% as rest of usa or not
asciilifeform: ( when will it merge with microshit's linux group, i wonder )
mircea_popescu: if you work with red hat i will negrate you on sight. if you EVER worked with red hat, i will consider it also.
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu . i have a spiffy present for you , dun go to sleep yet
hanbot: a good one i heard today: what does a dyslexic, insomniac agnostic do at night? lays awake wondering if there's a dog.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811772 << i can't imagine why ; if and when replaced will be replaced with gossipd if mature, or with ad interim if not. in any case a chat there will be. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811743 << i dunno what experience is this ? worked fucking fabulously for ~all the everything we did so far neh? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811740 << why ? i've been rating randos for a long time, you figure it hurt anything ? ☝︎
phf: mircea_popescu: the word count thing slipped through cracks, and i even wrote code for it. thousand apologies
douchebag: mod6: I think pentesting a bot would be pretty fun and in my area of expertise, I'll definitely be interested in arranging that once completed work is finished
mod6: douchebag: once you get through you're current pile of requested work, I think I have some pen testing for you to do on tb0t. We can arrange a time, later on. (That is, of course, if you want to.)
mod6: asciilifeform: I did bring back tb0t here. I think I just forgot to restart it after some planned downtime on my host. Anyway, if we wanted to use it for Pizarro, I'm open to that but it may need some alterations.
ben_vulpes: yes i do
douchebag: Yeah I know, like I said it's definitely not complete
ben_vulpes: native bluetooth stack i'm going to guess does not affect trb build
douchebag: like I said, not complete yet - but it is in progress
ben_vulpes: i think that'd be a fine thing with which to 'shit the logs up'
douchebag: I didn't want to shit up the logs posting CVE's and their descriptions
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've always assumed it's because dood can't copy/paste
douchebag: It's just what I've been working on - not complete yet
douchebag: https://i.imgur.com/MFOCARO.png
lobbes: I'll bbl tonight. I gotta do some maintenance on archive process tonight so I can send em through then
lobbes: If you give me the list of URLs I'll feed 'em through the meatgrinder >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811668 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: As as humid as it is here, I don't want mushrooms growing inside me. It's a river valley so everyone is assumed to be carrying histoplasmosis
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811726 << Should I get a sleeping bag and sleep in the datacenter hall tonight? ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, upstack, is what i want.
asciilifeform: but yes i'ma let this alone for nao
ben_vulpes: will save time if i bring a polished design instead of this adhoc bikeshedding.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: let us table it for a bit, i do not have a proposal baked and understand all of the things you've pointed out so far.
asciilifeform: ( i lifted the idea from mircea_popescu )
ben_vulpes: that i've not proposed a solution yet lol
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what am i missing
ben_vulpes: i'm half of a mind to take offense at the implication i'd impose email on anybody in the republic
asciilifeform: if you have a pill to make email 1992-style usable again... i'll be quite impressed
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i sure as fuck won't sift through GB of spam to read strangermail
ben_vulpes: i've been thinking about a pizarro wot identity, yes
ben_vulpes: i'm not necessarily loathe to give up the "dump pubkey and sshkey in hole, pay invoice, receive server deets at this url encrypted to your key" model, but i worry the irc demands are an unnecessary salting of friction
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'
asciilifeform: trinque: i've nfi !
ben_vulpes: there'll be ~no way around asking each user for a gpg key i don't think
ben_vulpes: i imagine some kind of remotehands queue of "make rockchip with sshkey of XXX, upload which IP addr or other unique identifier got the key in question"
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> i oughta elaborate re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811686 : neither rockchip ( nor any device in its price range, afaik ) has any mechanism for netbooting, that does not at the same time reside in something the previous user could have overwritten ( flash rom ). on top of this, rockchip has ~no~ onboard flash , nor can it boot from usb without a valid bootloader ~on sd~ . so a new tenant requires a refr
ben_vulpes: i figured that something like this was the case and appreciate the followup
asciilifeform: !Q later tell ben_vulpes i oughta elaborate re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-09#1811686 : neither rockchip ( nor any device in its price range, afaik ) has any mechanism for netbooting, that does not at the same time reside in something the previous user could have overwritten ( flash rom ). on top of this, rockchip has ~no~ onboard flash , nor can it boot from usb without a valid bootloader ~on sd~ . so a new tenant requires a refr ☝︎
asciilifeform: oh i'ma hold off for whole day, still waiting for debianism output
mircea_popescu: anyway, im taking the bitches for a beach trip ; mind holding off till i'm back ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think i grasp the idea, they'll be denying even as the 'shower' door slams and the zyklon hisses
asciilifeform: well there's more- and less- deniable dents. i dun recall louis xvi walking around and pretending his head were still attached..
mircea_popescu: need i remind you of, say, http://trilema.com/2013/the-endless-story-of-korea/#selection-77.0-77.246 ie "Plaintiff seeks to make his case solely upon the theory that, by reason of the change in the weight of the dollar he is entitled to $1.69 in the present currency for every dollar promised by the bond, regardless of any actual loss he has suffered" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd like to make some sort of non-debiable/unhealable hole in the boeck bubble, and it almost seems possible in this case
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm taking ideas re pills against 'these were never keyz, you pulled them out of arse'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i guess next month i will make vpatch reports
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the next item after setting Mocky up with python cgi on UY1 (dear lord, it never ends) will be to databize our customer list, ip assignations, rack assignations, subscriptions etc. i will then reproduce your calculator with actual numbers.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: could i persuade you to keep an updated ver of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1809743 ? or too hightech/ugly ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: sadly, i dun have such a thing on hand
asciilifeform: i'd like to snapshot the https://github.com/loser.keys links
trinque: I wager lobbes does
asciilifeform: at the end of this run, i will post whole shebang in the form of an article.
asciilifeform: i can already picture the 'cosmic ray' denials
steel: That would be bad for the real Bitcoin, no? Why wouldn't I wait to buy MUCH much more real Bitcoin after revert with same fiat paper
steel: Will read logs. "will get reversed", I hope not
mircea_popescu: trinque, i suppose his (intuitive, unexamined) idea is that the item's reversible and will get reversed (as it is, and will) and doesn't know how it'd work in practice.
mircea_popescu: anyway. bitcoin is bitcoin. the various "i can't believe it's not bitcoin" scams the usg has been trying to push are just that, margerine ~nobody cares about (notwithstanding every nigger out there is trying to pretend like they're eating it an' lovin' it)
steel: Now I am forced to buy Segwits being sold as Bitcoin
steel: But now, I dont know what Bitcoin is
steel: I want to break free from shackles and be financially free
steel: I'm a nobody trying to find my way
mircea_popescu: go register a key so i don't have to keep upping you.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-09 16:14 BingoBoingo: On the plus side, I do get to write about the Jewish problem in Germany while sitting on a balcony in South America.
steel: Is "Bitcoin" a movement? Who decides what is Bitcoin? I am having trouble understanding