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scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [13:34:05] <Framedragger> asciilifeform: agree re central point of failure; there should be a network of these archivers, too

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160914/#192 << note that the spec doesn't mention a particular one, neither in log or on trilema.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [13:25:01] <shinohai> ty mircea_popescu for botspec trilema

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160914/#172 << dun mention it.

a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 21:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/advisories/ICSA-12-297-01 << ahahahahahahahaha

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-06#1535292 << thread. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541599 << in what sense same ? ☝︎

PeterL: http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/14/chipotle-with-an-assist-from-apple-will deliver burritos by drone << seems relevant to discussion from yesterday

PeterL: http://archive.is/wHWGD << looks like scoopbot worked, now you do not have to worry about pastes expiring

mircea_popescu: !!key <supersechi>

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541745 << i highly recommend these, Framedragger . nowadays i almost never leave my pit. ☝︎

shinohai: http://ix.io/1mQN <<<< supersechi imma do you a favor

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541672 << archive.is is becoming a serious central point of failure imho. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541647 << i suggested this a couple of years ago, and still think it is a fine idea ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541639 << not only is this true, but you won't be seeing scientifically accurate nanosecond timing in a konsooomer box at all. the physical clock is not up to it. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541630 << nah that's its own cpu instr , only starting with pent-II iirc ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541602 << it is my suspicion that these folks have left the net, and have gone into the woods to perelman and drink to death among the bears and lynx. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541600 << i can't get past the wtf. i mean, why not give king solomon , or frederick the great, 'the nuke button' just as well ! ☝︎

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [12:45:20] <mircea_popescu> it has the advantage that if i later search for the link it pops it

Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160914/#141 << ah, should the bot cite the archived link if an archived url is mentioned in the channel?

mircea_popescu: date +%N 353690185 < on a 3ghz machine eg.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-14: [00:25:06] <mircea_popescu> shinohai trinque phf Framedragger any of you wanna get the links autoarchive thing going ?

Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160914/#7 << would this bot functionality only include silently scooping all links and (silently) submitting to archive.is?

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8A4251B53531E6F9A0A60E2B75B9256CA8412F7F4FA956F2D46772ADB2F890BA << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 11324222908438140042288890647227129485796617615668366944270379995134245997725054322413715207208768748361669223089766795091689170791362790700011576013866019 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.228.86 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.228.86 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on F

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1065C2FFA619AE534A1EA8853A33AD9A810557BCEFC2F45308EE932B59D47BDC << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 11324222908438140042288890647227129485796617615668366944270379995134245997725054322413715207208768748361669223089766795091689170791362790700011576013866019 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.231.136 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.231.136 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on

deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EA847D018F26A8B10BD14FA05388A71300D259ECBDF38E97F9F842981695F00E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 11324222908438140042288890647227129485796617615668366944270379995134245997725054322413715207208768748361669223089766795091689170791362790700011576013866019 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '74.45.231.156 (ssh-rsa key from 74.45.231.156 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on

deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/trilema-bot-spec/ << Trilema - #trilema bot spec

asciilifeform: 'Sep 13 xx:xx:xx humanoid kernel: NET: Unregistered protocol family 39' << oh hey hey lbj! turns out somebody is already gossipdating at me from the phyootoor.

a111: Logged on 2016-09-14 00:13 deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/13/check-out-this-piece-of-shit/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Check out this piece of shit.

asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-14#1541531 << these turn up periodically, and i mentioned it here not so as to encourage folks to play 'whack-a-mole' but to illustrate that bitcoin's socket handling sucks donkey balls ☝︎

deedbot: shinohai updated rating of covertress from 1 to 1 << huffing Krypton causes narcosis in humans at levels > 50%

deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/13/check-out-this-piece-of-shit/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Check out this piece of shit. ☟︎

pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536231 << same feller ripping on laocoon atm. busy bee. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: http://66.media.tumblr.com/26ef780a6217be674356a057818ae453/tumblr_o9pxbhtW4L1u5he87o1_500.jpg < as the romanian joke goes, "what's the peak of sexual exhaustion ?" "when you ejaculate powder."

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [23:02:16] <pete_dushenski> "The U.S. government posted a $107 billion budget deficit in August, a 66 percent increase from the same month last year, the Treasury Department said on Tuesday… The fiscal year-to-date deficit was $621 billion through August, up 17 percent from a $530 billion deficit at the same time last year. " << a hundred $bn a month short… fuckin way to

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#692 << it is worth noting that the deficit as accounted for is just about 10% of the gdp as accounted for, which is to say one's probably understated and the oither probably understated.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [22:22:28] <pete_dushenski> frankly, it'd be swell as hell if mp and alf continued this debate in the comments section there - a la gossipd thread model - and then we'd have something to look back on weeks, months, or years from now.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#681 << lol check him out.

pete_dushenski: "The U.S. government posted a $107 billion budget deficit in August, a 66 percent increase from the same month last year, the Treasury Department said on Tuesday… The fiscal year-to-date deficit was $621 billion through August, up 17 percent from a $530 billion deficit at the same time last year. " << a hundred $bn a month short… fuckin way to go 'world's largest economy', you ARE detroit.

pete_dushenski: http://phys.org/news/2016-09-amazon-chief-jeff-bezos-unveils.html << speaking of blasts, amzn/bezos preparing to steal musk's thunder

pete_dushenski: https://www.amazon.com/Proud-Member-Basket-Deplorables-Tshirt/dp/B01LW5XL29 << "i'm with her" has, perhaps inevitably, become "proud member of the basket of deplorables"

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [22:03:02] <phf> fire in the opposite directions at the same time

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#638 << not altogether a bad solution.

trinque: https://news.vice.com/article/teen-who-created-drone-mounted-gun-arrested-after-assaulting-cops << ?

pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540863 << i'm seeing closer to 2gb sustained ram footprint with very choosy node and 3-4gb with slutbanger ☝︎

pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1541354 << yup. updated. ☝︎

pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-12#1540185 << a10 is only 15 tons it turns out, so just a single order of magnitude off of chopperpistol ☝︎

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [19:48:48] <trinque> heh, this guy expects english to have a phrase for insulting someone lacking knowledge of specifics / experience

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#506 << maybe it should be named in his honor!

mircea_popescu: http://lurkmore.so/images/6/69/I_wanna_be_a_stripper.jpg << in other boobs

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [19:45:32] <asciilifeform> it is pointedly NOT same.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#502 << i always thought this is what you meant by your lsd / gasmask references.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [17:51:53] <asciilifeform> the reason why we ~have~ spec-by-program is because it is the only actual alternative to fits-in-head.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#420 << no, it's a "workable" alternative to go to fucking school and learn to think. which means languages, not math. "but mp, i'm a slut, i have big udders, why should I" oops i was reading from the wrong sheet, i mean "but mp, i'm a mathgeniusboy, why should i" blabla.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [17:46:58] <trinque> llvm will never actually implement c/c++ as currently "specified" by the existence of gcc

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#413 << doh. hence the "wars" (raging mostly in rms' mind)

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [17:41:16] <asciilifeform> to be fair i have nfi how to possibly escape from specifying byte order.

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#396 << if you don't do it one way, it'll have to be done the other way. either way - it'll be the other way from the other way. what can you do.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [17:16:41] <ben_vulpes> http://discuss.ardupilot.org/t/ardupilot-and-dronecode/11295 << "Due to their overwhelming desire to be able to make a proprietary autopilot stack the Platinum members staged what can only be called a coup. They removed all top level open source projects from DroneCode, leaving only their own nominees in the Technical Steering Committee."

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#346 << aqhahaha they un-open-sourced it ? lol.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [17:01:55] <PeterL> what is the procedure for gettiing a bot voiced? I rewrote scoopbot to get titles of links, do I need to get it talking to deedbot/gpg decrypting things too?

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#344 << to limit noise the idea is that whoever puts a link in is responsible to provide context for it ; rather than rely on automatic bot function. bots are to read their own www logs when referenced and that's it.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [16:49:30] <asciilifeform> the impracticality of 'code as specification' is wholly from the nonexistence of sane programming systems

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#342 << no, actually, they're fundamentally different items.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [01:13:01] <hanbot> http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160911/#220 << moar like retribution for that "elena" monstrosimovie, an exhilarating tale of beige and waiting.

Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#6 << HAH :D butdon'tyoulikelongshotsandstuff

trinque: spb (~stephen@freenode/staff/spb): [Global notice] We've put a cloth over the self-destruct button so that nobody pushes it again. << ahahaha

asciilifeform: https://archive.is/NihIk << claims the railway story was a gag. whatever.

asciilifeform: http://www.thescreamonline.com/essays/essays2-1/tsarsthumb.html << see also.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [02:32:33] <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, trinque, Framedragger, et al ^

Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#16 << very cool stuff re lighthoused, been following comments, will try to properly grok once i get some time and energy (~tomorrow). very neat work indeed

a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 17:24 asciilifeform: http://adapilot.likeabird.eu << linked from ben_vulpes's link.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [15:28:28] <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu et al : http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119069 << proposed 'lighthoused' spec

a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 16:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#225 << if you think that is what spec looks like you must be new here!

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1541168 << like If I quote a quote ☝︎

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1541189 << things like this ☝︎

PeterL: asciilifeform> http://adapilot.likeabird.eu << linked from ben_vulpes's link

asciilifeform: http://adapilot.likeabird.eu << linked from ben_vulpes's link. ☟︎

ben_vulpes: http://discuss.ardupilot.org/t/ardupilot-and-dronecode/11295 << "Due to their overwhelming desire to be able to make a proprietary autopilot stack the Platinum members staged what can only be called a coup. They removed all top level open source projects from DroneCode, leaving only their own nominees in the Technical Steering Committee."

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119078 << seems like we're back to start, eh.

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [15:28:28] <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu et al : http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119069 << proposed 'lighthoused' spec

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#225 << if you think that is what spec looks like you must be new here! ☟︎

mircea_popescu: "I'm a 23 year old female who believes in all things kinky. I have major breeding fantasies, and have had multiple children already, all whom I have given up for adoption. I'm helping the world and being a slut all at the same time." << deeze internets.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al : http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-119069 << proposed 'lighthoused' spec

mircea_popescu: http://66.media.tumblr.com/c35e4918dd0193a12a9b57a5d86da76a/tumblr_mkan9o7iP71rfba0vo1_1280.png << visual aid.

asciilifeform: 'I will not lie to honorable men, but am committed to lying to women, because they cannot handle the truth and cannot be trusted with it in the face of your enemies.' << this ?

asciilifeform: in other other noose, http://blog.trendmicro.com/trendlabs-security-intelligence/pokemon-themed-umbreon-linux-rootkit-hits-x86-arm-systems << run MOAR dynamic linking !11

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540911 << where were these things mentioned? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540907 << it doesn't, strictly speaking, good chunk of it is frag ullage ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540902 << if mircea_popescu built a rotor, he has same STATIC musltronic binary as other people with his patchset. which includes malloc etc. ☝︎

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [03:12:59] <ben_vulpes> i've been running this one for 9 days straight (previous box would OOM-kill the process every 2 days or so), and it's currently holding 3846M RES

a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#28 < no trb node of mine ever allocated 4gb ram. there's something weird there.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540898 << mircea_popescu never used, afaik, the verstring patch, his heathen traffic is small , as prb ignores his nodes. which is one possible reason behind his sometimes isolation on the path to miners. not all - but many - paths lead through prb heathendom. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540897 << sounds like a ~complete spec right here where it stands ☝︎

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [03:40:40] <BingoBoingo> Oh, news from near ben_vulpes land http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5220

a111: Logged on 2016-09-13 08:38 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#52 << in which we find that i actually qualify for lafond's dindu status ?!

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-13#1540909 << mircea_popescu is a wolf in the forest..? ☝︎

scriba: Logged on 2016-09-13: [03:40:40] <BingoBoingo> Oh, news from near ben_vulpes land http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5220

mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160913/#52 << in which we find that i actually qualify for lafond's dindu status ?! ☟︎