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asciilifeform: (well rather, mircea_popescu could really use one. but he probably doesn't have the runtime readily set up)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: didja ever publish your block parser ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: grep your log for reorg. when was last reorg ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ^ ?
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: somebody, iirc it was ben_vulpes , wrote a thing that actually parses blox
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu showed up with a bag of clues from a trb node that wedged some weeks ago. so now autopsy.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: consider reading today's log
asciilifeform: entirely not connected with this thread, pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: that piece was stuffed full of 'gdb', 'gnu debugger' screenshots
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: block debugger would be like my 'blkcut', except for ~block~, as output by blkcut, would display header, transactions, etc.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i don't see a block debugger in there
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this in re which ?
pete_dushenski: http://cascadianhacker.com/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread << this ? pngs are broken tho
asciilifeform: then we would, for instance, know , what mircea_popescu's node heard, and when
asciilifeform: didn't ben_vulpes ( or trinque ? ) write a block debugger ?
asciilifeform: upstack: the sad thing is, i am not even equipped to answer whether 419373 was part of an orphanable forklet on mircea_popescu's node ; and if so, when orphaned at large
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everybody's log consists of multiple GB of 'tx cannot be validated.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what leads you to this hypothesis ?
jurov: https://people.redhat.com/duffy/selinux/selinux-coloring-book_A4-Stapled.pdf << what do redhat devs do
jurov: and btw mircea_popescu have you pushed qntra stuff?
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/wtf/what_mp_had_and_zoolag_didnt.txt << new link, for posterity.
asciilifeform: what_mp_had_and_dulap_didnt.txt << GRRRR ought to read 'zulag didn't'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the log from mircea_popescu's node unsurprisingly sheds 0 light.
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/wtf/zoolag_blk0037.txt << uploaded for completeness/replicability.
asciilifeform: so looks like zoolag (and dulap, and everybody) reorged, but mircea_popescu's node didn't
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/wtf/what_mp_had_and_dulap_didnt.txt
asciilifeform: grep -wFf mp_but_not_zoolag.txt mp_blk0036.txt > what_mp_had_and_dulap_didnt.txt
asciilifeform: diff mp_u.txt zoolag_u.txt | grep '^>' | sed 's/^>\ //' > zoolag_but_not_mp.txt
asciilifeform: diff zoolag_u.txt mp_u.txt | grep '^>' | sed 's/^>\ //' > mp_but_not_zoolag.txt
asciilifeform: cut -d' ' -f1 zoolag_blk0036.txt | sort | uniq > zoolag_u.txt
asciilifeform: cut -d' ' -f1 mp_blk0036.txt | sort | uniq > mp_u.txt
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/wtf/mp_blk0036.txt
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/wtf/zoolag_blk0036.txt ;
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: (you may be aware of this but just in case - given tmsr's preference for keccak, fyi your sha512 above uses sha-2, not sha-3)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found ~a~ wtf ...
asciilifeform: at any rate plz don't lose that thing's blockchain, mircea_popescu , can use my 'blkcut' or ben_vulpes's ver of same, to get at the blox
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: was it built with spitblock ? can you get it to spit out , say, 419300 ... 419373 ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty fxd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i read 'approach' phf's observation literally, as in 'walk up to'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: papadimitriou ? i assumed -- a greek. at any rate, he wrote asciilifeform's (and probably ~everybody's) undergrad schoolb00k on complexity
a111: Logged on 2015-11-08 23:08 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes match.com, plenty of fish, okcupid tinder and the rest of the lesser known implementations of the social media dating scam are all owned by iac.
trinque: mircea_popescu: when people were selling their balances at a discount towards the end?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: twatter lament re 'oh noez blox soo crowded' is disproof nao ?
shinohai: https://twitter.com/AssStar_0_/status/779926185140690944/photo/1 <<< Novel vending machine
scriba: ssh banner of 92.243.8.98 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.6p1 Debian-5ubuntu0.1
scriba: ssh banner of 89.200.170.201 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
scriba: ssh banner of 218.189.190.58 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
scriba: ssh banner of 178.254.50.147 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-3
a111: Logged on 2017-03-03 11:41 mircea_popescu: because for as long as the chicken brained have a dollar, they will pool that dollar to get shit like britney spears on the air.
asciilifeform: john_cocktail: recall how difficulty is derived ?
asciilifeform: betcha mircea_popescu had nfi that there could be such a thing as 'sibling blocks' !111
deedbot: john_cocktail voiced for 30 minutes.
shinohai: !!up john_cocktail
asciilifeform: 'We need LC_ALL here to be sure that the date will take exactly three words in the output of ls.' << this is exactly the plasma tv raft from mircea_popescu's article with the crazy woman
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: might be interesting to add fee plot to your block viewer tool
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i am but a lol-sniffing pig of the web
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the stuff you read
veen: in other outdoor recreation of yesteryear, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdycwgRQ1N1rlsqyto1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 0 provable improvements on otp.
mircea_popescu: and in other americana, http://68.media.tumblr.com/6775e30043c1371eb7e80f4eec3d372c/tumblr_mlbbe3Vl5q1rgz1hoo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i dun even grasp how this is a vuln, it isn't as if 802.11 has rsa-authenticated endpoints to begin with
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> new ? hasn't he been dead for 50 years ? << Ate an abercrombie and fitch shotgun, likely movie about the guy
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> in other news im reading this hemingway interview and why the fuck was this guy such a dork and why does he only go out with ugly women. << Beer goggles
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the few honest cryptographers that exist, will prove that your arse is staked on ~this here~ set of unproven conjectures, and nothing else.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ty, mircea_popescu's line that '(I suspect USGtards would call it a "PRNG")' had me thinking in that line
asciilifeform: upstack : ben_vulpes : the 'triangle' is aka 'trapdoor function', and it is not known whether they actually exist. ( folx go around pretending that they exist. does not make it so. )
asciilifeform: however mircea_popescu , this is not quite right, the 'lower bound' is always O(1) for the d00d who knows the key !
asciilifeform: the mandatory thread is here -- http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-01#1620768 ( and linked subthreads with mircea_popescu . ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: ok i cannot resist answering ben_vulpes . because he will find answer in encyclopaedia, but it will not be an actual answer, but only a thought-extinguisher. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ordering.
asciilifeform: i wonder if by now mircea_popescu also guessed what it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have some -- rigorous or not -- idea of how 'remains debatable' ? because afaik you gotta square this circle if you want noncuttables.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i admit that i have not attempted to unearth and catalogue the 2011 folxs' attempts to square the circle.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'every user a currency issuer' is the only 'solution' i currently know to 'mining-is-a-bug'
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu how do you picture tx fee working with non-divisible coin ?
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asciilifeform: !!up bobbie_pasta
asciilifeform: this goes immediately back to mircea_popescu's koschei piece.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-02 00:38 mircea_popescu: and an apple costs a fortune.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally i suspect that a regenesised fork would begin to gather steam long before http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-02#1621006 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform freshly re-read mircea_popescu's 'empty airplanes' thing )
a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 16:56 mircea_popescu: but the correct trb-i might just as well end up this situation where block reward is 1mn bitcoin, and it dies within 1mn blocks. so all mining does is produce ~ a lease ~ on a chunk of bitcoin. and the value of old bitcoin is monotonically decreasing over their lifetime.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is right, i waas abouittosay
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the cure, i realized, is that ~some~ of the oldtx selected by Z must depend on value of prev block, so as to prevent waltzing of Z 'until all i need is the 10% i'm fraudulently storing instead of the 100%' .
asciilifeform: welcome , john_cocktail
BingoBoingo: john_cocktail: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
deedbot: john_cocktail voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: !!up john_cocktail
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 13:11 mircea_popescu: practically speaking on current tech the bitcoin unit of account is probably something like 0.25
asciilifeform: i suppose this is why mircea_popescu wanted the 2-input thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw 'no payers, only payments' is probably impossible with public balances existing in any sense.
asciilifeform: dunno re mircea_popescu's planet, on mine, semiconductors sorta stopped, in 2009-ish, and aren't threatening to develop mega-improvement
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would be interesting to tally the avg case cost of not committing this error.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's that. the seekrit, is blown, neh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: let's suppose you had ring signature, we have edge of the sword. how does the hilt work ? i.e. you have an output, that is spendable, but you want it spendable by ~you~, not by 1,001 randomly-selected pubkeys.
shinohai hopes mircea_popescu writes an article "In which I became lost in my own museum"
a111: Logged on 2016-02-06 16:44 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "- He says current block ciphers suck. Why? It doesn't really become clear from the discussion, which seems to be between two people who have heard a little bit about cryptography, and are trying to outdo each other in what little knowledge they have."
a111: Logged on 2016-02-06 02:49 mircea_popescu: actually the 4 color map thing is in my head just as good if not better than knapsack
a111: Logged on 2016-02-05 01:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: played around with a few graph-theoretical approaches (in particular, max-clique problem)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think i found it : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-05#1396876 ☝︎