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BingoBoingo: If only there were still a prediction market that could be used for evaluating the proposition "Schengen Exit Visas When?"

mircea_popescu: us has succeded in its aspiration to be argentina. it exists as a pretend-country on the basis of foreign capital markets.

ben_vulpes: https://text.npr.org/s.php?sid=606716569 "A lack of a trauma center was a severe indication of the institutional racism that existed on the South Side" and clearly not an indicator of the penury of the locals

mircea_popescu: i'll grant it's a little difficult to guess what's going on from far away. if you don't say anything people are going to eventually assume something random.

mircea_popescu: especially. minigame is working on adding some fg code to eucrypt as it is, she'll prolly include your stuff if she can, so there you go. make it small, make it readable, start with one thing at a time and so on.

asciilifeform was recently reading a very spiffy history of vectorism, from w.r.hamilton up, and noticed that ~same 2 problems befell 19th c maths folx

mircea_popescu: yes, it was. to summarize, careful what you do with your patches, in the following sense : if diana_coman doesn't CONTINUE your patch, it will have to be reground later. as she's a human being with other problems and interests than folding in your alt universe, it helps IMMENSELY if you make your patches small and readable. ☟︎

asciilifeform: ( it is apparently possible to write a vtron, and not know what happens when you orphan a branch.. )

asciilifeform: then i admit i'm a bit surprised

mircea_popescu: iirc he even wrote a lisp one.

mircea_popescu: you are not alone, for a big tent's there with you, and all the dumb chicks nobody wants and and aaaaand.

mircea_popescu: don't be too harsh on self ; item is deliberately made in such a way that not-quite-coincidentally is SO VERY CONTRARY to "common wisdom", unwrapping all the corners into head takes a while.

asciilifeform: esthlos: picture if you substituted a different block for block#2 of bitcoin.

asciilifeform: esthlos: do you understand that v, deliberately and as a fundamental design choice, has no merging ?

asciilifeform: this is the correct picture. i'ma add a legend on top of the tbl.

mircea_popescu: esthlos, you wouldn't make it a patch on genesis unless you were trying to signal your disdain for diana_coman 's work so far.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you added a new link (on stats page). if someone clicks on that link, he is regaled with a list of unlabeled numbers.

asciilifeform: esthlos: when folx do as you described, it is called 'regrind' and is very labour-intensive, and is never done without a substantial reason

diana_coman: it existed and it costs (A LOT) and we are pointedly and in-your-eyes-as-visible-as-possible nuking it whenever we can

esthlos: if I make decrudification a patch on the genesis, probably requires no changes to eucrypt vpatch tree. but if it's a new genesis, tree breaks, no?

diana_coman: esthlos, well, it ultimately depends on your vpatch (what it does *exactly*), neh? chopping off some unused and moreover useless parts is valuable but a. it needs to be done making sure that nothing breaks b. mpi is and will still be a pile of shit

esthlos: so let's say I remove the "secure" bits of MPI code for the sake of honesty. is this a needless complication of the eucrypt vpatch tree?

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it was a specific chumpatronic term used by koch et al

esthlos: cool, I may make a patch which rips it out.

asciilifeform: i suspect that swapping only even exists as a possibility in current day os because of wreckers.

asciilifeform: esthlos: imho absolutely not; i haven't built a linix box with swapping to disk enabled, in decade+ ( 'secure alloc' simply means 'marked unswappable' ) ☟︎

ave1: Currently I'm building the final version (I hope, I was thinking the same thing a couple of days ago)

ave1: Unfortunately, It has taken weeks (a clean build takes a couple of hours + multiple small bugs had to be solved)

a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 16:50 asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs )

ave1: I've been working on getting a arm 64bit cross compiler + a cross compiled arm 64bit compiler, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-28#1806178 ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-26 15:28 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-26#1805578 << article updated; possibly 1st time querying ( believe or not... ) reddit, yielded up a useful seekrit

trinque: hey folks, deedbot wallet announcement. there'll be a planned outage starting at 3pm. I'm moving infrastructure over to a new location, with what I expect to be a more reliable fiber connection.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, the move to uy has massively improved my personal server connection :D << Many cabling maps were consulted picking a landing spot after discovering Asia has no connectivity

asciilifeform: diana_coman: it doesn't have to screw with the machinewide gcc; can do as part of buildroot ( iirc buildroot even supports auto-building gnat the same way i built e.g. arm7 gcc with it; but requires a running gnat to be present on the machine where it is done )

diana_coman: at any rate it's not the sort of thing I'd try directly on a remote machine as it messes up with the local gcc so this will be fun

asciilifeform: ^ ave1 has the closest thing to a turnkey process afaik. ( still requires finding a working gnat for ~some~ machine , somewhere, that already runs ) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: so wait a second here.

asciilifeform: diana_coman: afaik not! ( aside from the amply discussed sad phakt that building it requires a working gnat bin to be found somewhere else )

a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 02:23 mod6: asciilifeform: yah, gentoo is looking for a package maintainer for gnat.

diana_coman: did anyone publish a compilation recipe for adacore's gnat on republican gentoo? searching the logs returned only various troubles and otherwise mod6's attempt as most recent from what I can tell: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685215 ☝︎

spyked: to anticipate a potential discussion on this: phuctor's feed is actually in "Atom" format, so it does have a unique "id" tag; maybe I should be using that as an identifier (and, respectively, the "guid" tag in RSS feeds) instead of the link.

spyked: also asciilifeform ^ re same, is it normal behaviour for some links to be posted twice on rss? I guess it does that when it finds >1 factors for the same key? asking because my experimental rss uses post links as IDs, so it posts at most 1 factor for a key.

mircea_popescu: fly it in the face of all evidence all it will ; in the mental patients' inner world, "law enforcement" is as much a thing as any other structured delusion.

mircea_popescu: and through it all, perhaps the most amusing part, their wholly spurious pretense that ~everyone~ gives a shit ; fly it in the face of plain and ubiquitous evidence that a single soul that does can not be found for love or money.

asciilifeform: been a while since i heard of anybody jailed for ~selling~ warez on physical disk tho. i was convinced these died with the '90s

a111: Logged on 2018-04-28 00:17 asciilifeform: https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.'

asciilifeform: douchebag: historically i've found that setting up a gentoo box to 'workstation' standard takes 2-3 wks. (depending , though less than you might think, on the speed of the comp.) fortunately 99+% of the work has already been done for you on that box.

asciilifeform wonders why this required a screenshit

asciilifeform: you gotta ban xorg if yer a vim user

asciilifeform: for instance, rebuilding world on the rockchip ( a quite modest comp ) takes about a day and a half

asciilifeform: https://archive.li/TzRKT << in noose lulz. ' “We don’t care, we think you’re a criminal, and I’m sorry but Microsoft wants your head on a platter and I’m going to give it to them.” Those are the words that the US attorney said to me in that meeting, face to face.' ☟︎

asciilifeform: we dun have a vps

mircea_popescu: may be a while yet.

asciilifeform: douchebag: lemme know if you run into problems. also see my www, i posted a recipe for how to make the same box at home, to test on.

douchebag: Haven't really worked much with Gentoo so it's a bit of learning

douchebag: Have you guys seen the BGP hijack that allowed a bunch of peopels Ethereum to be stolen?

mircea_popescu: it's not a natural functuionm, you realise, like fucking. gotta spend time to TEACH THEM.

BingoBoingo suggested he buy a cheap-o refurb tower and then walked him through space power math.

BingoBoingo: He was not the fellow who earlier inquired on what sort of shared hosting prices I could offer that might sway him from the under 3 USD a month contract he entered into "Hostgator". That was a Redhat JVM developer.

BingoBoingo: In other lulz this week, a born and breed Uruguayo approached me this week asking advice on doing business with Norte Americanos this week. He was completely confounded that Gringos del Norte do not want to wait until after 3-4 skype "meetings" before making a decision. I explained I am in LATAM for reasons, but it would be to his advantage to streamline his shit so he is ready to sell it when the customer is ready to buy

mircea_popescu: this "could revolutionize" is by now how jews say "bullshit not worth reading". it's a sort of rel=nofollow for zeks.

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: this is a pronounced backslide compared to the CGI in 2003's Hulk movie

BingoBoingo: And yes, the quality of CGI has fallen dramatically over the past 10 years. A good chunk of the film was dominated by video game characters pasted onto a map made out of what the real cameras captured.

BingoBoingo will confess to seeing the first English language (spanish subtitles) showing of what the authors call "Avengers: Infinity War" Eating one of the local "magic" baked goods T-1 hour before showing, and spending most of the time Thanos wasn't gloating over a WOT filter for this balancing

BingoBoingo: It has a rough skeleton. Like a big tent. Liek their own metaphor.

BingoBoingo: Well, In USSA they are good for enough of a swing to make more than enough laffs

BingoBoingo: #woke >> "Black Lives Matter wishes to appeal to the moral nature of a people that have shown no signs of having a moral compass. Hoteps believe this is assinine. Black Lives Matter would rather complain about the damage the “white man” has done to their communities instead of fixing the issues themselves. BLM wishes to protest and Hoteps do not. BLM will not acknowledge the black on black crime in the community while Hoteps do.

mircea_popescu: apparently the 1970s "black men know how to organize la revolucion innately, instinctively, and only" nonsense that impelled inepty prisses a la hillary rodham to her ultimate impalement on a stake of lulz are still with them!

trinque: whether the thing has a "bite your dick off" switch, or bites your dick off by default, either way discussing degree of idiocy, I fully agree.

mircea_popescu thought both exec and execve are ~same, except one passes a list.

mircea_popescu: so basically use it like a wrapper

a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 13:00 trinque: I dunno why anyone would write a blog post proposing "shell out" and then omit the proper handling of inputs as out of article scope

BingoBoingo: A man on a gruelling mission acquires one McGuffin which will allow him to finally rest, and begins a race against time as the forces of socialism and fake humanitarian scammers align against him.

BingoBoingo: Of course pantsuit will retcon it with a sequel

trinque: er, with a ; at the front

trinque: it's a good example and a bad example all in one

trinque first says "ohey p.bvulpes has lisp highlighting!" then "oh wait, lack of escaping as a feature"

spyked: anyway, I've learned a few useful things today and I'm adding them as (hopefully brief!) updates :D

phf: but you don't even have to jump through the hoops of escaping, most lisp's run program implementations, uiop including, support passing in command as a list of strings, which are in turn handled properly by the underlying machinery

a111: Logged on 2018-04-27 12:59 spyked: the post doesn't purport to be a guide in correct common lisp programming (issues with those functions are explicitly discussed at the end). anyway, trinque, what's wrong with format?

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805899 << format is _notorious_ way to get a shell command injection. we had one uncovered by douchebag just two weeks ago in one of the republic's automated processes ☝︎

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-27#1805906 << asdf3 is pretty much standard in all the lisps right now, you have to go out of the way to downgrade. at the very least avoid implicit uiop dependency and declare it in your asdf file (this is by the way even fare's recommendation, but people ignore it "oh i have asdf3, means i can just throw a sneak uiop:foo all over my code) ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-09-15 15:08 phf: i think asdf is evil, version 3 is doing some straight up systemd shit. for those who don't know asdf 3 comes with fare's own portability layer called uiop, which in a very systemd agressive and underhanded style is superseding existing utility libraries.

trinque: I dunno why anyone would write a blog post proposing "shell out" and then omit the proper handling of inputs as out of article scope ☟︎

spyked: the post doesn't purport to be a guide in correct common lisp programming (issues with those functions are explicitly discussed at the end). anyway, trinque, what's wrong with format? ☟︎

mod6: Thing landed in the snow, and I quickly used a hockey stick to shove it into a contractor bag. Nothing flew out -- but they say that the larve somehow survive the cold up here.

mod6: i dont have pics, which i totally regret not taking, but this past february I found a giant (think, basketball size) paperwasp nest in one of my huge Silver Maple trees. Had it cut down. That thing looked like it was gonna have a mega-count of the bastards.

trinque: ahaha that is a picture.

mod6: had me jumping over a fence and running, stripping off all my clothes.

mod6: mircea_popescu's thorn/winged-paratrooper boob stinging story; reminds me of a time I was cutting down a tree and a wasps nest was in there - it was hot out and I had my shirt off. the fuckers flew down my pants, stung me in the ass like a hundred times.

mircea_popescu: it;s just a fleshwound!

BingoBoingo: Panama airport was a very exciting 45 minutes of my life

hanbot: there's a lounge ($50 entry, cc only) where it works, heh.

asciilifeform found only today that apparently 'coreboot' contains something like a minimal gnat runtimelib, as of 2016

asciilifeform: the lolturd at the heart of the lj piece, 'This is pure unadulterated slander. Lima is not in any way tainted. It is freshly written MIT code and I was never exposed to original ARM code. This statement is an outrageous lie, and it is amazing that anyone in the open source world would lie like that and expect to get away with it.' << somehow does not occur to the author, that he has a problem , if the 'colour of the bits' is permitte

mircea_popescu: exactly like i don't for a second btcvixen or w/e it was doesn't know he's just a sad dork with a self-mutilated penis.

mircea_popescu: i do not even for a second believe they don't know better.

asciilifeform: ('to spite the conductor! i'll buy a ticket and.. WALK!11')

mircea_popescu: everyone else has the ready excuse : i'm with usg because who else would give a straw hat for the asshole of a barely literate black woman ? ~condolezza rice.

mircea_popescu: "Now I have a choice. I can wait until i am in the mood to clean up this code and produce something useful for public consumption, and in the meantime see my name and my work slandered. Or... If i throw my (nasty) code over the wall, someone will rename/rewrite it, mess up a lot of things, and trash me for not having done corner X or Y, so essentially slander me and my work and probably even erase my achievements from history