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assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 18:50:57; mircea_popescu: what part of doublethink you think got cancelled ? the man with two maja desnudas simply is twice as happy.
mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch ☟︎
punkman: mircea_popescu: perfectly possible
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was not reading messages at the time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the graph thing is quite essential (and if no one else does it, i will) because it exposes the actual dependency flow
antonosika: mircea_popescu: I hope you take a good ulterior consideration until then.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if he paid out to a random keyless amoeba, that'd be reason to conclude that he was shot and replaced not even by hitler's agent but by a street dog
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think i get it..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes, i know fdr and co.'s explanation of why they 'had to' confiscate
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes. didn't say 'no one did this', just 'no shortage of sane examples'
asciilifeform: but i don't have mircea_popescu's intel. only My Arse (tm)
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu's intel tells him that the power rangers see us as locust plague, i'll believe him; but from my chair i cannot see this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta what i said in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-02-2015#1005374 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, yes. art is used precisely like bitcoin, but by the enemy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what books and philosophy of his time ought he have reviewed instead ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orwell assumed that full-scale human beings were a naturally-occurring product that could be taken for granted.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from first stab
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: two?
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: who do you hold in high esteem as a director?
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 03:29:02; mircea_popescu: making money is a purely ~political~ function. if you are among the favoured elite of the respublica veneta, you then may invest in the ships, and make a profit. if not, not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-03-2015#1044114 - ergo, 'this vermeer, in the gallery of our esteemed lord rothchild, is genuine. this picasso, in the suitcase of this ragged thief and scoundrel, is most certainly questionable.' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 19:30:03; mircea_popescu: the merit of a pgp signature is that it delivers them from having to do this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'на вкус и на цвет товарища нет' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: this is because mircea_popescu is still thinking of these items as artwork, to look at
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not sure what i was thinking there!
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^
asciilifeform: (mircea_popescu's bag of tricks is ultra-handy for items like this. specifically, in re: the ancient art of not wasting time with spurious crud)
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 09:49:19; mircea_popescu: either they stole someone's shit, in which case i want the original ; or else they made it up, in which case i dun want to hear it.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:21:00; mircea_popescu: The rest of us who actually make shit happen in the front lines of consensus back on planet earth will continue to be unaffected by your efforts apart from their modest value as chuckle fuel over beers and sushi."
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:21:00; mircea_popescu: "Welcome, kiddo, to how the real world works. You go ahead and place your crazy protest bids way off in the bottom of the sociological order book and scream that someday, SOMEDAY, the market will come down to meet you, and you will be vindicated.
punkman: mircea_popescu: is that trolling ? << chinese problems
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i don't grasp is why you're feeling so generous - giving orcs unique names.
asciilifeform: or hanbot, or mircea_popescu, et al
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 01:11:30; mircea_popescu: never, inb the entire history of reichs, was this the case. not once.
asciilifeform: how does it help anybody (other than hitler), including mircea_popescu, when hitler knows for certain, but everybody else is left to mathematicize fruitlessly (or, worse, work on faith)
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu remember what means 'np-complete' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is of course right. snowdenball's chance in hell
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: practice, fortunately, is not hard to fix.
asciilifeform reminds mircea_popescu that factoring has not been proven np-hard much less np-complete
asciilifeform: phf, mircea_popescu: how, if the layers use distinct keys, each en-rsa'd separately ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: weren't you the one with the 'why do we need block cipher at all' concept ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l, i get this: http://webkind.ru/text/989416971_946024927p581069957_text_pesni_n-ai-fost-acolo.html
phf: mircea_popescu: i ~assume~ the intent is to speed up failure
asciilifeform: punkman, mircea_popescu: can you think of any ~legit~ reason to store only 16 bits of the hash that was signed ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:09:56; mircea_popescu: fucking abcnews. the defense didn't "decline to do so". the defense DECLINED TO RECOGNISE THE COURT!
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 23:37:54; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247592 << it must be made to work.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu heh. he probably does when he can't sleep at night
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> yeah, mod you have teh honor. << thanks. I've confirmed that what I get from genesis.vpatch out of thin air is the same manifest as `bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest`.
ascii_field glad that mircea_popescu liked the concept, but noticed that he signed the old patch
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000151.html << worx
assbot: Logged on 13-08-2015 05:04:30; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'm taking notes here on cartoonz for kidz, so keep 'em comin.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the importance of the thing i intended, roughly, is that ~everything is either a vdiff or a sig~
jurov: mircea_popescu: only clearsigned text is mandatory, there can be none or any number of further attachments(not necessarily only patches), each with detached attachment.name.ext.sig
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: third, if the second exists - a detached .sig for it
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the actual patch (optional, if the message concerns a patch) - 2nd attach
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: to use jurov's thing, you need 3 things: a clearsigned readme (1st attachment)
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: for extra lulz, here is a vdiff of the change, taken using the new vdiff, of vdiff.sh ! >>>>> http://dpaste.com/10CMS6H
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 20:57:40; ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: here is an experiment: change ' print $0 " " o ' in vdiff.sh to ' print $1 " " $2 " " o '. this results in timestamp amputation. the patches work fine, except that gnupatch is no longer aware of preexisting files and will happily create the same file twice, if so run, glomming on top of itself.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 01:22:45; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try this on for size:
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: here is an experiment: change ' print $0 " " o ' in vdiff.sh to ' print $1 " " $2 " " o '. this results in timestamp amputation. the patches work fine, except that gnupatch is no longer aware of preexisting files and will happily create the same file twice, if so run, glomming on top of itself. ☟︎
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: but have, i think, eaten all that i can stomach.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i confess, began reading this crud linked from bci's www, where i looked for block guts
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: but easier to get uranium from the sea.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: was digging for traces of sanity in there
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the basic thread is that usg is understandably unhappy about violations of the 'diddlable sop standard'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dope would be one thing, but this guy smokes the carpeting. << likely smokes dope from a pipe carged out of a crack rock
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://bitcoinist.net/bitpay-favor-merging-bip-101-bitcoin-core << >> time to stop feeding them ?
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 02:22:08; mircea_popescu: Иное дело — социализм. Уничтожение различия между физическим и умственным трудом будет происходить именно по линии объединения хозяйства в единый организм во всемирном масштабе, по линии всеобщего обязательного высше
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3hrum5/degenerate_gambler_mircea_popescu_muses_about_how/cuagfoj << in an improbable twist of win, /r/buttcoin moves from proitesting bitcoin because "unlike fiat currency IT IS NOT BASED ON ACTUAL VALUE" to protesting eulora. because...
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 04:56:25; mircea_popescu: now that's what i call genius. that thing actually fucking rhymes, agapou / go are exactly homophonic.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 04:56:04; mircea_popescu: "Maid of Athens, ere we part, give, oh, give back my heart! Or, since that has left my breast... keep it now, and take the rest! Hear my vow before I go, ζωή μου, σᾶς ἀγαπῶ."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246988 >> i was taught that english call this item 'macaronic poem.' in my mind, the iconic instance is pelevin's 'my sister, do you still recall как Ельцин бился мордой в пол ?' ☝︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah mythology. Stalin was an evolution of Peter's empty facades and clumsy imitation of the west.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how did they hear of crimean potemkin but not of the great red ship ? who knows. << Cold War culture. Those ruskies love playing pretend...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for her especially this was made.
asciilifeform: betcha mircea_popescu could easily include ada in the gurlz training and no one will notice the difference
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have been deliberately dancing around the spitoon-drinking that reimplementing 'diff' and 'patch' would be.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we might be the first to seriously diff a diff
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is a winner
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not gnu diff...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are not ~entirely~ meaningless, in that they impose an ordering. BUT my antecedent hashes do that now.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 07:21:28; hanbot: hey mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1675NTK
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:09:25; mircea_popescu: anyway, notice the word wizardry. "if there is full credit card data in a dump, it’s not from us". whereas the dump clearly and pointedly states "some credit card data".
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 02:22:08; mircea_popescu: Иное дело — социализм. Уничтожение различия между физическим и умственным трудом будет происходить именно по линии объединения хозяйства в единый организм во всемирном масштабе, по линии всеобщего обязательного высше
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: what was the deal with the gpg sig thing ?!
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 01:23:44; mircea_popescu: a programmer!
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 01:22:37; mircea_popescu: maybe the conversation's too o'cult.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> diff << omfg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i prefixed LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" ./foo.sh and ended up with something quite like mod6's diff.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: confirmed!
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the idea was imprinted on me through soviet imagery still, of a young pioneer politely and carefully observing an older pioneer performing some tricky task, soldering say. the implication was "this old person, knows better, so shut the fuck up and learn"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and yes, it's locale retardation.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try this on for size: ☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2014 21:25:42; mircea_popescu: A CS student named Lin had a prick the size of a pin. It was no good for girls but just great for squirrels, they squealed with delight with it in.
trinque: mircea_popescu: because any opinion outside the hive mind is arbitrary!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because, apparently, sacrilege1111!!11
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu yeah not sure about her intentions... my first inclination was just to think she was an idiot but on second thought that thought is a bit idiotic