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mircea_popescu: i suspect problem may be rathere the operator than the performance of the hardware!
asciilifeform: i'd quite like to buy a standalone cam with equiv perfomance. but ( aside from kg brick of 'slr' ) they dun make them.
mircea_popescu: i've seen the sort of pixelated bs the iphone spits out.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine how.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-19 01:58 mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : i can't recommend the dsc-rx100 quite warmly enough. it's a splendid sony compact with zeiss lenses that's easily the best camera i ever saw.
douchebag: Yeah, I'm going in about an hour
douchebag: in addition to that I've been vomiting since I woke up
douchebag: and now I have a bullseye shaped bite wound
douchebag: I got bit by something
douchebag: I think I have lymes disease
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820855 << briefly returning upstack, once i find the uart pins and solder (under microscope, it will be a 1st class bitch) i can try starting with stock rk3399 loader, and welding on the c101pa peripherals init (which i've dug out of google's shitpile) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's kinda lulzy for me to re-read what i was saying pre-bitcoin, and discover it's... not changed.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-13 16:20 mircea_popescu: spyked how about THIS definition for the operating system : "that set of code that is trusted implicitly". this then makes EVERYTHING on a windows machine operating system, which i contend is right and proper -- the necessary result of opaque monolith systems design is universalization of the os.
mircea_popescu: in strict terms, i believe that is a pretty tight php implementation of ftp. "shouldn't exist", maybe, whatever. there it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's not directly evident to me this is rubbish, though i never used it.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-06 12:59 mircea_popescu: spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations of "how long code should be".
asciilifeform: sorta like dos 'sidekick' i guess
mircea_popescu: right. i was discussing the former. which, contrary to hopes&aspirations, owns the market.
spyked: afaik ios (the other smartphone os besides android) runs on 1 hardware platform and the os doesn't multitask (or maybe it does in the newer versions? hell if I know). while all other smartphones besides apple's run android, and there's some diversity in the hardware platforms, which is why they based the os on the kernel that "runs on everything".
mircea_popescu: i dunno that the item has anything to do with linux.
spyked: mircea_popescu, re. smartphone, everytime I bring the "why use linux shitstack with so many layers of abstraction for mere phone" argument to certain ppl, they're all "oh, but it runs on so many devices". and I guess they're right in a certain way. gotta keep 'em busy, give 'em "choices", or at least the illusion thereof.
mircea_popescu: spyked, re the other thing, i expect the item can be both massively trimmed and significantly improved still. the discussion was carried in principle ("so manty lines!") not really objectively, "why this exact line for each line". i think it's entirely possible even the final product, as a conceptual ideal, may exceed (reasonable!) expectations of "how long code should be". ☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820781 <-- lol, I can't help it: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05a-july-theses.html#selection-384.0-384.1 , http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05a-july-theses.html#selection-342.0-342.1 and other places in that piece. ☝︎
spyked: anyway, given my limited experience with wp (nowadays I just lul at the attackers from republic of moldova trying to gain wp-admin access for the old blog), I am ready to admit that mp-wp's may be the optimal permeability of this membrane. I was even tempted to switch to mp-wp, but I'm hoping to see trilema antispam implemented in Lisp at some point in the future.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-05 16:50 mircea_popescu: "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing performance. t
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820747 <-- I dun disagree at all. as far as the thought experiment goes, I still wonder, though, whether those edges of productivity follow from *all* the lines of mp-wp code and is more than the sum of each, or whether there's a lot of extra crud in there. perhaps overly naively/boyishly at the time, I started my (still ongoing) experiment the other way around ("what is the minimum number of lines to ☝︎
spyked: the question stemmed from "what are valid inputs for blogotron?", which led to "should comments be permitted for anons, or should they be predicated upon identity?". otherwise I very much like the current organization and I believe that venues that don't allow inline commenting (such as thetarpit in its current state) are only "half blogs", not fully.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820744 <-- yes, although I'm personally not convinced one way or the other. my q is, should "allcomers" (e.g. people without WoT presence) even be able to comment? I don't know, maybe the question itself has no merit, mircea_popescu is of course much more qualified than me to establish this. ☝︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820740 <-- ftr, most of my names point to this address and I expect them to for the foreseeable future. I'll follow in trinque's footsteps and deed it. ☝︎
phf: heh, i need that scope feature, but also a better query parser. (from:TomServo) (from:ascii "sshd") scope:15
asciilifeform: phf: if you're using mine, you will need to fix the sshd config to permit root login ( see the TomServo thread ). i really oughta post an updated image.
phf: i ended up adding windows newline rendering support, which i'm rather pleased with, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess though the pressed version is still broken.. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/tree/blog/.htaccess
phf: asciilifeform: right, not all of the svgs have multiline base64. and you'll notice that some of the files have windows newlines. i think mp-wp codebase is the one that would benefit the most from the autoformat tool discussed in logs..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-05 18:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis so here's one possible solution, for mp-wp genesis instead of listing hunks inline, i link them to separate pages: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/default_avatar.png.svg etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820776 << i randomly picked one of the items to read, and choked on the riotously long lines ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I have a pretty good idea of which corners of the feria the kitchen will be outfitted from.
ben_vulpes: (nor do i know how i'd have cleaned the thing, had i tried to use it)
ben_vulpes: i could not fathom.
ben_vulpes: place i rented had the weirdest damn nonstick pan: it had a nonstick coating but then an elevated metal grate atop the coating
ben_vulpes: i felt the same way about the keys in buenos aires
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/06/05/how-i-have-been-evaluating-securability-of-various-properties/ << Bingo Blog - How I Have Been Evaluating Securability Of Various Properties
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis so here's one possible solution, for mp-wp genesis instead of listing hunks inline, i link them to separate pages: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/default_avatar.png.svg etc. ☟︎
phf: well, it's the old age comes for us all, none of them want to be césar luciani, and very few prepared to knowingly don the armor one last time and die under the hail of arrows so to speak. (and i'm giving them a lot of credit here as far as how they lived to begin with)
mircea_popescu: btw, i hope that's adequate payment for all the j/p spam ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, not like i didn't WARN YOU!!11
mircea_popescu: ti's very much highschooler syndrome. "oh, i guess we're the seniors now" "why ?" "do you see any other seniors in the cafeteria ?" "well, not in the cafeteria you go to" "word."
asciilifeform: relatedly, mircea_popescu-was-right(tm)(r), asciilifeform's blog nao has a broken stump instead of working commentron, because google's captcha crapola finally gave up the ghost, and nao i gotta figure out how to port mircea_popescu's routine...
phf: i think anti-comment is a recent (3-4 years) argument, started by a bunch of "high profile bloggers", who, after running into some heavy polemic, turned off the comments on their sites. the argument was then picked up by the various "minimalist" blogging systems (we can't be arsed to implement comments, but kottke said they are useless anyway)
mircea_popescu: "thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface" << understand something : i publish more than anyone, and by anyone we don't mean solo operators, we mean whole fucking outfits. there's a reason for this. the fact that trilema is comfortable to me provides those last edges of extra productivity and intellectual leverage that convert exceptional performance into mindblowing performance. t ☟︎
phf: i like trinque's approach of publishing deeded hosts, requires vigilance on part of log reader, but at the end there's a canonical place we can fallback to, in case
mircea_popescu: now i see it.
spyked: I'm reserving another bot for the rss functionality. but I want to use spykedbot to make a small trilemabot example for implementing prefixed commands. spoiler: I have some code that looks up definitions in asciilifeform's ro-en dictionary ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2211 ), it's the smallest application that I could find that also does something useful. ☟︎
spyked: plus, I tried at some point to bring in server-side dynamic content ( http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05c-development-log-i.html ), but the cost of all those dependencies is still (from my pov too) big.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820568 <-- I also suspect that that's much of the cost of "works". leaving comments aside, thetarpit blog scaffolding is a few kLoC of CL, but lacks *any* editor-side interface (an item such as e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799520 would have to be done the old-fashioned way, moving the files manually or through ssh and maybe script this somehow, but it would be a *separate* piece of ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 17:36 mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 17:35 phf: i think someone else here had a lisp implementation, but that one lacked comments entirely
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820598 <-- indeed it does, and precisely because of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820603 . I don't know how to design a proper comment mechanism, not necessarily because of spam (I believe mp-wp antispam works), but because I'm not convinced that everyone coming on the blog should be able to leave comments, and if they do, then what format (text-only?) etc. ☝︎☝︎
spyked: aaaand rssbot code currently weighs circa 400LoC, so I'ma probably also have to break that into testable pieces. not sure yet.
spyked: step 5 will probably need to be broken into multiple sub-steps, since I will have to also publish a rss parser first, then a rss bot design document, and only then the code.
deedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/072-trilemabot-i.html << The Tar Pit - trilemabot [i]: introduction and self-voicing patch proposal
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in ancient lulzfests, https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2b/5e/cc/2b5eccd7dfe99006f7c784a46c56696b.jpg
esthlos: doh, I had trinque's ip set to the old in /etc/hosts, from when I tried to follow mircea_popescu 's advice and disable dns lol
mircea_popescu: anyway, item is going to be delivered below the original estimate you had anyway, from what i gather.
ben_vulpes: i must have missed it, may i have a pointer?
mircea_popescu: it could happen to you too! and if it didn't, it's because you're nopt as cool as hebe shit-fleck, doing inept "check me out, mom, i have sex fantasies with harvey keitel" monologues in laundromats.
ben_vulpes: i see manifest draf, art car parade, and then the cuntoo instapper
esthlos: trinque: I might be being thick, but your link http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-02#1820306 doesn't work for me, and I don't see the post on the rest of your site. have you posted the manifest spec somewhere? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun recall if i mentioned : as of coupla wks ago, no moar 'emerge portage' on asciilifeform's-ban-masks gentoo boxen : it now ~demands~ gpg2 turd. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so reading historical qntra or should i say hysterical qntra is quite the fucking riot, but, BingoBoingo or anyone, where\s the article about the moronic french "agents" that texted to their "jihadist" suspect ?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-03#1820437 <- I can very gladly report that it works! I've re-built gnat on an x86_64; took the aarch64-native to the rockchip; unpacked, set, compiled ffa ch1 and ran, all perfectly fine; ave1 you rock! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: o hey! cool. anything else i should put in ?
asciilifeform: ( tho i am certainly hoping to begin selling pre-cured c101pa boxen in ~this~ mo )
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had an article where 'the carpenter said, i will stand here and hold the wall up, for small fee..'
mircea_popescu: ty, but i'd much rather COMPLETE THINGS.
mircea_popescu: what, i should write the same god damned thing every six months, like those idiots doing "cms solutions" for "Web development" "tech firms" ?
asciilifeform: some activities have this problem, others not ( restauranteurs do not have to contend with a 'i dun need to eat, i already ate in 2011' )
asciilifeform: 'i sold indestructible, perfect $tool to all $n possible buyers, nao what do i eat'
asciilifeform: i use it every day, even tho i have never touched original vt.
mircea_popescu: and i don't believe www is dead tech. it may need some changes, but as such, the convenience is there, girls reading logs on gym exercise machine mounted tablets.
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue. ☟︎
phf: i think someone else here had a lisp implementation, but that one lacked comments entirely ☟︎
mircea_popescu: fuck me if i'm including all the dumbass css bs.
mircea_popescu: phf, oh really ? i thought you had a lisp competitor.
phf: just to clarify my blog is mp-wp, i just bastardized the theme to the point of "improvements" being worse than original
asciilifeform: this is not a susprise, i think.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's also the 2nd order effect, whereby by interacting with heretics you find out stuff like "hey, i have a memory leak"
phf: mircea_popescu: oh i'm not suggesting there's folly here, i'm a) thinking of how to better slice the beast and b) pointing out that it's not even a container issue
asciilifeform: actually i suspect that this is one of those items that will be very short and sweet , when made from first principles under a future http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789682 system ☝︎
mircea_popescu: to be clear, i'm not for a second disputing that such piles of lines of "code" are a scandal and an outrage before god. but i wish to know what we're to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this is quite what i'm saying, a web publishing platform we will want, and phf is in a prime posityion to appreciate the gargantuan task of "make it from prime principles", i think.
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, asciilifeform has ~own~ 'mp-wp' , made from ~same vintage of wp, that does admittedly only half of what mircea_popescu's does ( i dun have the spam filtration ) )
asciilifeform: i fully believe it
phf: i can obviously fix btcbase to be more useful (i.e. continue to aid the patch exploration) in cases where a patch is big, but in general a 9mb patch seems to go against the whole fits in head
mircea_popescu: phf, part of the reason i keep having things sit on other things is to find out what the fuck we need to do.
phf: i'm not sure how practical that makes patch page though, it definitely doesn't open on my x60. i could perhaps introduce some split mode, where patch page only lists the hunk filenames, and you need to click on hunk to see the contents
asciilifeform: diana_coman: very spiffy; i have added your tests to the FG www links.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: smoosh footnotes down to the bottom of the page pls << Will see what I can do about this
lobbes: Best part is that the same cookie can be used for -any- download link from archive.today, and each cookie is good for 5 months, so I didn't even need to automate the scraping bit.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-11#1812127 << btw, this has been working like a charm for the download part of the archive process. I was able to do away with the phantomjs-crapolade completely. ☝︎