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mircea_popescu: i suppose IF the july many-fork time comes and trb has nothing to offer then it might
as well close.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: bitcoin
as it currently stands is a very iffy proposition. it ~absolutely~ requires the bricking of current miners to have a chance, and major protocol rewrites.
mircea_popescu: rather low hanging fruit, that sort of inept claim. classic is about
as production ready
as windows 7.
mircea_popescu: then the same fucking idiots come by to "comment" on shit i do.
as if we're all people now or something, in the same sense.
mircea_popescu: i recall trying this once before, yars ago, and not being quite
as oripilated.
mircea_popescu: norvig can, on the basis of his achievements such
as they are, live a life his father would have thought good enough for a blue colar laborer.
mircea_popescu: this is important. not for the "good of the people",
as it is broadly misdirected - but for the continued delusion of the imbeciles in question.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> perhaps i had everything backwards << which is exactly my metapoint here. for
as long
as such can occur, it is CLEAR we don't have the perimeter of this thing yet.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Mebbe bring an actual pathogen into the discussion so
as to contrast this herpajerk
mircea_popescu: not "why is it chained liek so ?" "uhhhh... [spittle dribbling]"
as is currently the case.
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2016 21:19:30; mircea_popescu: for instance (and plox, before we run off with it - example only!) : if every tx was defined
as "only 1 input - only 1 output" and if you wanted to make a larger payment youy'd have to make MULTIPLE txn, then a) the protocol would actually make a lot more sense, atomicity-wise and b) you wouldn't have the problems jurov describes. because pay x to y with fee z would exist EXACTLY one way.
mircea_popescu: and derpy arguments "won" with me over the particular brokedness of the prototype implementation are roughly the same value and consistency
as used toiletpaper.
mircea_popescu: (yes i'm aware that the above example allows no payments other than in multiples of 50 btc for a while, then multiples of 25, and EVENTUALLY in sasothis. MIND YOU that this is a feature and what you are using now a bug - da fuck do you do when the coinbase is split up in all the satoshis it could be ? ha ? oh, "works for you
as it is" ? ty.)
mircea_popescu: for instance (and plox, before we run off with it - example only!) : if every tx was defined
as "only 1 input - only 1 output" and if you wanted to make a larger payment youy'd have to make MULTIPLE txn, then a) the protocol would actually make a lot more sense, atomicity-wise and b) you wouldn't have the problems jurov describes. because pay x to y with fee z would exist EXACTLY one way.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the net-
as-publictoilet era will e << and this is exactly the situation we have now, except we don't like the miners.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose his idea is, in plainer english, that in principle fee is no deterrent, because if he makes 1mn txn that are all valid but spend the same inputs, only one can be eventgually mined and so he can create
as many txn
as he wants for you to relay and only pay the fee once, eventually. whereas only keeping the first seen one protects from this.
mircea_popescu: or
as much
as fits in the buffer i'm willing to handle, at any rate.
assbot: Logged on 04-03-2016 18:20:51; mircea_popescu: specifically : while the universities may well be pushing costs down
as you describe, they're sure
as fuck noty passing the savings up the chain to comecon.
mircea_popescu: notably enough : romania told the soviets to shut it, and
as a result the policy was updated to allow people (ie, romania) to do w/e it pleases.
mircea_popescu: specifically : while the universities may well be pushing costs down
as you describe, they're sure
as fuck noty passing the savings up the chain to comecon.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: why ? currently the harvard/mit/etc hedge funds masquerading
as universities are pretty much the largest problem on fed's map.
jurov: or actually...
as the whole thing was about bitcoin protocol enforcement, law dept would be prolly best choice.
thestringpuller: i remember when MP exposed them
as a scam way back in 2012
davout: reddit dude sums it up nicely "Even though every contract has a counterpart, think of whole thing conceptually
as being somewhat pooled with no specific counterparty and the winning traders jointly
as bagholders of last resort."
mircea_popescu: oil!" to, finally, "flyover country". not entirely sure who'd be the indicated canon on the topic.
as everything else to do with culture, starting with the great "american" novel and ending with the great "american" dictionary, the us has failed to produce usable works. maybe one day a gibbon is born in kenya or wherever and writes its history.
mircea_popescu: TomServo>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-02-2016#1414960 << Any suggested reading on this topic? << mid 1800s, galveston was the world's cotton center. by the 1900s, dallas had overtaken it
as the center of texas. lots of discussion of this change that's emblematic from a more general shift from "midwest = great american desert" to "we built some pumps and whatnot, let's farm and raise cattle" to "holy shit
☝︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform somethinglike that. given that his guide announces itself
as "opportunistic smalltimer defense", it's not necessarily wrong.
mircea_popescu: it's not kosher, it's a race
as to who can spend first, and you're hoping the lady's good enough to keep him busy long enough for you to get to a wifi ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform obviously you could take
as many pics
as payers. but in spite of the ridoinculousness, the nonsense provably works.
cazalla: get a job help building that wall
as well
mircea_popescu: except these bovines would have counted
as lamers in that ~lame set.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Romney attacked Trump and offered brokered convention
as a solution in his speech
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Seems up, we don't really get ddos'd
as much
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2016 15:58:36; asciilifeform: and say they blacklist anything previously appearing
as payout on bb.
pete_dushenski:
as ever, he with the gold calls the shots
as to 'what is art'
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-03-2016#1420812 << hahaha i had this exact same debate with fillie at guggenheim bilbao over serra's 'the matter of time'. she fucking hated it, i defended it, but probably to play foil
as much
as anything. this was a few years ago however, though i do still see his works once or twice a year in toronto's pearson airport ('tilted spheres'). i will grant them their ability to bre
☝︎ sturles: It isn't that complex. The uxto set is updated
as the block is parsed. The inputs of the sibling will be in the utxo set when it gets to it. It only makes some optimizations somewhat harder.
sturles: Yes. It isn't verey complicated. Really.
As long
as A is found before B in the blockchain, the order is AB. Even if A and B are in the same block.
sturles: It is in the design.
As long
as the order is correct (perent before child in the block), it is accepted.
sturles: asciilifeform: Because it takes some time to do it for large mempools, I suppose. I think child fees are taken into account
as well, but not sure about that.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're curious, what trb is contemplating to eventually do is a ring buffer with a per-kb fee only
as the criteria.
mircea_popescu: built on the basis of what other nodes advertise
as txn
mircea_popescu: for the curious, mempool was
as high
as 80mb during february, but recently it's ~8 or so.
sturles: It doesn't matter if A2 has higher or lower priority than A1.
As long
as A1 is in my mempool, a tx spending any of A1's inputs will be rejected.
mircea_popescu:
as usual - centralist power is the enemy of free commerce.
mircea_popescu:
as the commenter says, this does nothing for bitcoin, merely for bitbet.
mircea_popescu: and yes, publish a sha of the whole list
as-is somewhere on page also. so people can then verify at tyhe end.
mircea_popescu: say paid out bets are published
as now, but proposed bets only show first 4 chars of the address, and only first two digits of the payment. except if under 0.01 it's just replaced with D
mircea_popescu: ftr anacam was
as close to driving culture
as the times and potus aspire to be and occasionally manage.
mircea_popescu: "you can have your own opinions, but we want to move from this situation where harvard & mit lied to you about you being smart enough to resolve any real word conondrum 'if you just got the facts [
as officially branded facts by harvard and mit]'" to a much more economical "you can have your own opinions just
as long
as they're what we say they should be".
phf: "I hope that mathematics departments can also create courses in the history and philosophy of their discipline,
as well
as its applications in early cultures. Why not mathematics in art and music — even poetry — along with its role in assorted sciences? The aim would be to treat mathematics
as a liberal art, making it
as accessible and welcoming
as sculpture or ballet."
phf: friend of mine coined a term "tech dykes" years before it became a thing. bossy mostly lesbian girls who are good at pushing nerdy boys around, so work
as program leads and agile consultants. but that was before there was a strong political component
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> why - i do not know. <<it's the human love of variety. ends up making contrived shit seem appealing, especially to women (and castrated men, such
as intellectuals and bureaucrats - which, by the way, are about the same thing)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (for n00bz who think 'it is impossible to be sacked from usg' - it is actually very easy. one merely has to be employed
as a contractor, of whom there is a dozen or two for every actual 'civil servant', and then you can be fired any hour.) << Or appointee (i.e. patronage position)
punkman: pete_dushenski: the chiron is basically
as close
as one can come to riding in the atomic dirigible of land travel. << I'd take a UNICAT over the bugatti
pete_dushenski: the chiron is basically
as close
as one can come to riding in the atomic dirigible of land travel.
shinohai: Seinfeld plays happily in the background
as i do trb work.
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 17:21:53; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i've been thinking about it, but i don't think this is actually resolvable.
as it happens - the "magically working network - we don't know how it works" thing is much more appealing to the average joe than you know, "this is my node. i will defend it with my life". what life, are you kidding, got sitcoms to watch and shit.
trinque: to live in such days
as the era of software!
shinohai: Now it works ok
as a wallet if you use the generated keys, but that isn't practical on a live node.
shinohai: It isn't very useful
as a wallet unfortunately.
mircea_popescu: in general, unspecified, in particular cases,
as agreed with the previously living.
trinque:
As long
as they keep their PINs secret, they should be safe from fraud. For this master plan to work, though, the IRS would also have to keep the PINs secret. << oh my god the win