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mircea_popescu: for instance -- the us army thinks itself online ; a ridiculous claim.
pete_dushenski: by that time there will also be a handful of accepted definitions of "online", none intersecting.
mircea_popescu: decentralization is only meaningful in a structure which permits centrality.
mircea_popescu: by the time our automated batteries defend our own mining bots and nobody else can even be online unless they're doing what told, "decentralisation" per se is a rather meaningless concept.
pete_dushenski: , it would've been a winner. but no, he had had to usg.gavin all over the place and draw dumb straight lines into infinity.
mircea_popescu: but did he know you can put mac and cheese on a pizza and it'd taste assewome!
pete_dushenski: couldn't find this in the logs (so apologies if it's a repost) but holy shit is usg.btc scraping the bottom of the barrel if fatso karpeles is being resurrected as "cto" of privateinternetaccess (vpn) http://archive.is/XusOQ
pete_dushenski: even though contravex doesn't pop up here anymore, i get a kick out of the fact that it's still mostly #t'ers and former #t'ers who comment there. i guess this place still is the ballsiest nook of the net no matter what.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811310 << were you digging for this one ? http://www.contravex.com/2017/10/29/unearthing-beauty-the-lower-rungs-of-the-art-patrons-ladder-and-a-newfound-appreciation-of-time/#footnote_5_19813 ☝︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/acid-attacks-growing-as-a-cornerstone-of-new-ingsoc-culture/ << Qntra - Acid Attacks Growing As A Cornerstone of New Ingsoc Culture
mircea_popescu: anyway, re confession, the "I think it essential that I inform the investigation of a series of new facts concerning my moral-personal dissoluteness. I mean my longtime vice of homosexuality." part is, at the very least, truthful as far as anyone knows (and corroborated, histortically)
mircea_popescu: "scholarship" in english, on any topics whatsoever, is a thin calico indeed.
BingoBoingo: I'd really like the chance to try a desert next if I survive this place.
BingoBoingo: The operational aspect that burnedd an hour and a half was maliciously malcnstructed.
BingoBoingo: An hour and a half of waiting.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Went to the Department of Identity today. Stood in three seperate lines waiting to be called. The result was a piece of paper I have to bring back next week to actually get the cedula.
asciilifeform: keep in mind that there is not currently a simple knob to display ~solely~ those mods that will pop from this run.
BingoBoingo: Still alive, weather today is humid with a side of SMOG!
mircea_popescu: even promoted a fucktard with her own ass. literally.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding she has 100% of the cv bullet points that recommended HEROINE OF FEMINISM pantsuited hilarity for a run at the presidency.
asciilifeform: d00d died and left, literally, a coupla old shirts. but he wasn't 'in it for the living well', afaik simply enjoyed 'playing civ1'
mircea_popescu: in short -- stalin didn't have it so well, to the degree being purged is not directly nor obviously a worse fate.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to not get purged by idiots, not to not get purged in general. zhukov thinks he can be a better stalin than stalin, what's stalin's objective incentive to get in the way ? fucking let him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nah, see, the ~doctrine~ of tank-driven war was theoretically produced, as a necessary logical step, by russian staff, including a young zhukov. but the russian industry lacked the means to make the needed items.
mircea_popescu: now, the soviets did a bunch of butchering, indiscriminate and nonsensical, 1916-1926 or so ; but under italian intellectual pressure the germans realised and structured the effort, and then the soviets copied in a year or two.
mircea_popescu: look it up, hermann aron fellow, was a sort of german heaviside ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc edison's sucked, it had a dissolving tab that had to be swapped
mircea_popescu: it's a "i wonder which of these idle fucks would our overlords think is a best incarnation of their batshit notion of aryan".
mircea_popescu: so no, it's very much not "first, we behead the owner, keep the young aspirant manager director / fucker of owner's daughter against owner's will ; THEN we behead him, once we've trained a working class successor ; THEN we behead successor, put in politruk" cycle of nazi (and then COPIED, lifted wholesale by soviets, like everything else).
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, oh oh. for a moment i thought big black man had as much dick as nero, went and fucked husband and wife for a wedding blessing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes, but your mapping is incorrect. soviets had a lot of pre-existing fat to burn down in 1920s lulzfest. usg arguably had same in the 70s, when they started with "rights for wife in divorce and woman in workplace" nonsense. it's been half a century, there's nothing left to eat in the great empire of yore.
ben_vulpes: where you bomb a wedding and then bomb it again when the women and children rush back in screaming to pull their husbands and sons from the carnage
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: believable political careers take time to fabricate. schniederman mighta been a someone in some other context, but what's his replacement? another "first $minoritygroup to NYAG"? even diehard leftists are not so bullish on firsts after the first black man to run the show gleefully doubletapped weddings for his entire stay in the whitehouse.
asciilifeform: next to ask for manual of not-being-a-witch.
mircea_popescu: a yeah, whatever happened to him
mircea_popescu: but i didn't know more than they do in ~any and all fields as a wee tyke in 92, now did i. in fact, that's pretty much how i found out.
mircea_popescu: i expect. i mean... i was walking through town yesterday, we went by a sign, girly is, "hey, would you like to take their beautification class ? matricula abierta!" and i'm like... "bitch, i probably know more than they do." it's fucking true. and the next item was "manipulacion de alimentos". there I DEFINITELY!!! know more than they do.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, why rent car in a country where cab ride across town costs a buck ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811272 << can't rent a car w/o valid driver's license. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, can't be the null set, there's a handcrafted gentoo for instance.
mircea_popescu: you know for a fact that if people ~didn't~ buy cellphones, they'd be forced down their throats via "employer '''bought''' and here it is, wear it".
mircea_popescu: so now back to it : idle marketing gimmicks whereby they crust diamonds to a cellphone / put crowns on random selected poor from the socialist horde etc, so as to sell the phones/electoral nonsense w/e they're selling, "it's worth spending your time waiting tables in la, because this one chick we picked gets 10mn a year and so couldn't you (unless of course we arbitrarily and entirely outside of your control pick you)." matte
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform was informed that his usa driving license worx in uruguay. but not for a minute considered 'nao where do i find something to drive..' )
mircea_popescu: to trade 40% of the world for 60% of a shitty island... "it profits a man nothing to trade his soul for the whole world... but for walles ?!?!"
mircea_popescu: to which of course, the brits will respond in kind, predictibly enough -- and here's the capper : the loss to a group of 1mn for rejecting 1k who 1k then reject the 1mn back is... ~999k.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let me tell you a lulzy story : so the brexit, yes ?
mircea_popescu: so the sale is always a sham, and the "corporate phone" necessarily the underlying support should sales falter.
mircea_popescu: the limiting factor on human leather goods is the "strong winds" of ye olde prophete ; the driving force of hallucinatoria is mass acceptance, meaning that the individual item value is actually negative. a phone in the factory costs... -5$. not even zero, below 0. whereas once in "consumer" hands, it's worth whatever, 75 bux.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a reason veblen goods end up pricey whereas hallucination excreta ends up cheap.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-07 18:20 mircea_popescu: nda Gates Foundation. Was not a whole lot. Less than a mil. I made a decent fortune from bitcoins for no reason. And they are doing some really cool projects for humanity. Love their work. I have been to quite a few of Richard Stallman's talks. But still not inspired enough to care so much about OSS. I like it, but I also understand the argument for not having OSS and making money off it. But you did a good thing there. so co
asciilifeform: even in fdr's empire. there is a letter preserved, where he thanked a d00d who gifted him iirc a japanese skull
mircea_popescu: back when the germans still existed as a people, plenty of demand for human skin couches.
mircea_popescu: but see, the word printed on it isn't "please! NOT MY DAUGHTER!" in the blood of a double rape and murder victim.
asciilifeform: in faberge era. in, e.g., modern usgschwitz, it is more often than not, e.g. a polyester tshirt with magical word printed on it.
mircea_popescu: the phone is a sort of college degree, meaningless outside the sturcture of meaning that produced it.
mircea_popescu: trivial to sell vertu phones : make a proper encrypted, nsa-proof network, only allow vertuphones to connect. end of story.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:34 mircea_popescu: so : the faberge egg, the original, was made in 1885 ; but it was the continuation and in a sense the crowing of a current of thought (ie, culture) and proper civilisation that reached back over a centry.
asciilifeform: so how would mircea_popescu put on a theoretical footing, the transition from faberge to 'vertu phone' ?
mircea_popescu: this is like proposing that "look where videogame sexualization ended up" in a discussion about modern sexuality. really, what pipe dreams the pipe smokers dream is not a proper basis for argument.
mircea_popescu: ie, the phenomenology of the lost is a product of the loss.
asciilifeform: it has to do with the demise of craftsman as a class.
asciilifeform: observe where veblenism ended up going : 1) there exists a $mil phone 2) it consists of ipboje with diamonds glued on.
mircea_popescu: now, the demand for "a watch made out of the sufference of small children and the tears of young virgin widows" was never 0 ; and will never be 0, no matter what happens.
mircea_popescu: gets a wristwatch) the introduction of the quartz movement resolved the problem, pushing supply to ~infinity bn and therefore demand first to 900mn and eventually to maybe half bn. (i haven't worn a wristwatch in like 20 years, because why.)
mircea_popescu: depends in what market. i suspect the "chilling effect" is far stronger than the actual effect. ie, in a market with demand for 1bn watches and supply for ~100mn (which was the case cca 1940, ftr, take say shadow of a doubt : bank clerk who can support wife and daughters in humongous mansion in desirable californa location (santa rosa) out of his bank clerk job is very proud, and his friends are very envious, when he finally
mircea_popescu: and the problem isn't even that "it takes a skilled man 5 years to handmake a watch", because half-mn watches would sell and skilled people make less than 100k a year routinely. the problem is rather "are you fucking kidding me, the only way you can find whores is if you find someone to persuade women-on-couches that whoring wouldn't inconvenience their couch-bound lifestyle, wtf handmade clocks. you're lucky if they can be a
asciilifeform: right, i meant ~actual~ clockmakers, a la harrison
mircea_popescu: well, there's a large pile of veblenizers that make "heirloom" watches. but they're all mechanically made and consequently fundamentally uninteresting. talk about "Accept the form of the argument so as to debate its conclusions" failure mode. somehow nobody told them that if they do move to industrial process, there's no possible argument as to why not quartz.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, but clockmaking WAS a school, back before the "you can do anything" and "you're perfect the way ytou are" 1789 moment.
asciilifeform: as a school, iirc it did not take off, requires more clockmaker patience than most can muster
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, sure, once. but as a thing, you know ? as a ~school~.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was in fact just such a machinegun -- and engine -- in 1970s su
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the true reason "no need to optimize on that axis" is because it's a flying machine that doesn't threaten the usg.
mircea_popescu: i would personally really like a metal-miniaturization school. i would like to see not only really tiny machine guns as in ye ancient discussion of anti-fly capable tabletop AA batteries ; but also tiny engines, as in matchbox sized model cars THAT ACTUALLY TAKE FUEL, from the dropper. one drop = full tank. and then go.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-28 02:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: pigeons: let's scratch the arithmetic itch. approx. 8400 km from me to b-a. a LiMnO2 (non-rechargeable) battery yields approx. 400 Wh/kg.
asciilifeform: whereas for 'disposable' flying machines, that either explode, or make 1way journey ( a la http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-28#1075949 thread ) can use electric engines and zinc-air battery ( that dun need to carry oxidizer ) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: peroxide goes through half-decade-ly popularity cycles, folks discover the cat packs are a pita, move on to propane or other low-dough exotics.
ben_vulpes: no, but vastly less so than the generator assy. it's a collar around each prop.
ben_vulpes: in other usg idiocies, i recently found a dood who achieved the not-insignificant feat of a constant propspeed belt-drive GAS ENGINE QUADCOPTER butbutbut the rotor pitch variation mechanism RUNS OVER WIFI
ben_vulpes: now i sympathize deeply but the apparent frugality is at such odds with the otherwise liberal combustion of dollars that it induces a painful headache of cognitive dissonance
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: loox like a failure , the pigeons -- escaped
phf: it's a page break, historically used to indicate sections, so when you e.g. spool it to printer you get a page break at the end of each section. emacs (but so did zwei) have special keys for handling it at top level
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, an' if it's different today it has a lot to do with candi_lustt
ben_vulpes: esthlos: also needs a build script to produce a binary for use outside of a LISP repl; my lisp v implementation ran afoul of this years ago. ~nobody would fire up a lisp repl to test the thing. this may be different today, but the fact remains that for this to make it into widespread use it's going to need to be callable from the linux cli.
ben_vulpes: esthlos: i would like to see it complain loudly if it finds a bad signature, not merely look for some good ones
ben_vulpes: use a tempdir for gnupg's keyring; thing must be stateless. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-08#1811107 << we seriously need to get off the ground a service whereby this type of reports (or say bb getting pneumonia) triggers an airplane trip for a few girls eager to do garden cutting in the buff. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: esthlos: seems your v doesn't take a head to which to press, but implicitly presses whatever comes out of the toposort; this is incorrect and the operator needs a lever there
a111: Logged on 2018-05-08 14:45 ave1: diana_coman, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-07#1810933, I'm working on it, getting rid of the git line was a bit harder than expected (apparently nobody hosts this as as a tar.gz file). Also, all my parallel builds of the whole thing fail.
ben_vulpes: esthlos: where do you want input? comments on a-vtron ?
ben_vulpes: i'll give it a read today
ave1: It does have a rudimentary version, but then it re-uses the directories for the next round. Currently, I hope to get this done this week.
asciilifeform: hmm sounds like a broken os then
asciilifeform: this will be problematic when this becomes, say, a cuntoo port, where global makeflags will apply and e.g. mine are -j32
ave1: I suspect the ada makefile(s) have a problem with some of the rules
ave1: diana_coman, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-07#1810933, I'm working on it, getting rid of the git line was a bit harder than expected (apparently nobody hosts this as as a tar.gz file). Also, all my parallel builds of the whole thing fail. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( the way bernsteinism works, a given run does not reduce the work of subsequent run in any way )
esthlos: trinque: yesterday could not make it to irc. removing the dependancy on cl-ppcre shoudn't be too hard. sbcl comes with sb-ext:run-program, which wraps a call to execvp (http://www.sbcl.org/manual/#DOCF7). if somehow uiop is being thrown into the mix, then it shouldn't be
trinque: got it running in the "runit" service manager, has a logger called svlogd which reads from stdin, farts to logfile with timestamps (if directed)
mircea_popescu: a a