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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, they have an automated escrow thing, see. localbitcoins i mean. here : 1. people tender offers ; 2. you close one ; 3. they either cancel or mark it as satisfied ; 4. you check and either release payment or dispute 3.
mircea_popescu: well, nothing besides administrative overhead, of course, of course. some of these are cancelled on the spot, some end up disputed, the whole ghostly dance of inexistent items trying to pretend to existence.
mircea_popescu: nah, you lose nothing, there's a green button "release bitcoin" you don't click.
mircea_popescu: the more gfs you have, the less you care about girls on the rag.
mircea_popescu: well yes, but it's a numbers game. what's one buy you.
mircea_popescu: hey, now you know what i mean by intel / how reports look / stuffs and things.
mircea_popescu: currencies other than eur and usd were out of scope for this amusement, though i doubt there's much meaningful existence in the "currencies other than eur and usd" category.
mircea_popescu: i would say it is an absolute requirement for pizarro to maintain a localbitcoins account and sink in the required time to build itself a network of known-good users, as these in fact appear to exist, and may constitute humanity candidates / come in useful laterally.
mircea_popescu: in the end, administrative overhead (finding localbitcoinists, talking to them, talking to western union, updating the site objects according to reality in the field etcetera) comes around 2 hours / successful payment.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the vast majority of localbitcoin lusers will require ~major~ amounts of decerebrated handholding (indulging them may improve the 1 to 2 in 10 figure quoted above), in the form of incessant messenger-style confirmations and encouragements, "yes really, let's really, we're really doing this" etc etc, easily 20 dribblets / head. the damage wrought on the preteen brain of the contemporary 20something by "smart"phones and "apps"
mircea_popescu: ted enough to issue a fake "mtcn" (number-password western union expects you to know), try to get you to release payment, and then pretend like they "cancelled" for whatever imaginary reasons when you come to complain western union didn't have it -- a splendid way to waste an hour or so in city traffic.
mircea_popescu: you can further expect a strong showing of scammers. these will be variations of "here's something, release payment". in about half the cases these are advanced enough to output some kind of official-looking falsified screenshot / whatever bizarro standards of visual certification of truth they use in their world (no, douchebag didn't come up with the screencapping on his own, it's a thing in his age-peer group, the "proof").
mircea_popescu: you can expect actual payments in your hand in 1 to 2 cases out of ten tries (defining a "try" as having initiated a tx on localbitcoins -- which btw jumps randomly for unclear reasons), worth about 90% of the lulsite price.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (i ran 0.1 tests, so about 700 bucks. how a 10`000 sq foot of floor space electronics-and-white-goods specialist can not have made 700 bucks worth of sales by mid day is anyone's fucking guess. here is mine : nobody but me has any money.)
mircea_popescu: the first time you use a piece of id for id they'll also want a photocopy of it, and plenty of "wu locations" are in fact a counter in a pivapollo place somewhere, without a copier (they see no problem with this). about one in ten "wu locations" have not the cash on hand to make payment, and they see no problem with this, either.
mircea_popescu: western union expects you to know a magic number ("mtcn", 10 digits) the sender is issued upon sending, and present id. the sender only needs your name and city where you pick up payment. western union will ask you a bunch of inane questions (where you live, who the sender is, how do you know them, what's the money for, etcetera) for which they require no documentation.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's coffee in the thermos ; and the jar is pickled chillies.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817898 << guess. meanwhile some other coinbase prints a "bitcoin domination" % (spoiler : it's very low, bitcoin dun matter bla bla bla), and then WHENEVER bitcoin moves the ENTIRE list of "blockchains" and "cryptocurrencies" movesd in sync. anyone with half a fucking clue would observe that if the movement is 100% coupled then yes tyvm, bitcoin domination = 100%. but then again, democratic
☝︎ mircea_popescu: you want to not credit it, don't. you want nobody to credit it, HAVE MORE FRIENDS.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, im off to manage some efforts to research the world for pizarro's benefit inter alia, so bbs.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if and only if everyone's in chains, then and then only can you be entirely sure nobody's linked two z80 chips together and cycling "alf is a pooperhead" back and forth between them.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the problem defined as "alf does not want there to exist such a thing as a website printing random numbers" can not be solved in general. it can be rendered mute, but only by nuking the web, and the sort of item that produced it, which is to say neets.
mircea_popescu: sending some thugs to scare the peons is the 2nd cheapest thing in the book.
mircea_popescu: and it's way the fuck more expensive and involved to neuter all mosquitoes than it is for a mosquito to lay eggs.
mircea_popescu: because the reason the gox exist is that they're cheap to make, and therefore the democracy makes.
mircea_popescu: controlling the future is the ultimate point, there's no "if onlyt i could control the sunrise time i could make myself some cheap coffee"
mircea_popescu: well ? i mean what, you want to control the future now, as a SIDE POINT ?
mircea_popescu: have more friends / be nicerf to the folk who, however ineptly, tries to be your friends, talk to more people, etc.
mircea_popescu: so basically your objection is "why don't i have more friends" ? i dunno, why don't you ?
mircea_popescu: why sit and fret that "which thing i choose to do -- is the thing i choose to do" ?
mircea_popescu: alright! so then what is the problem ? you wanna use gox for settlement, you're allowed. you don't wanna, there's an alternative scheme. you wanna use something else, all the better.
mircea_popescu: o for fucks sake. will you start reading the logs at any point, or is the douchebag issue contagious.
mircea_popescu: the republican substitute for this purpose was documented last year. yes ? no ?
mircea_popescu: 100 27050 100 27050 0 0 64381 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 82721
mircea_popescu: % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
mircea_popescu: and no, it's not because of girly reason-substitute ("oh, it's too hard, rite, that's why you don't spend your life rasiing my spawn, because you ain't got what it takes!!!!") either.
mircea_popescu: it's not that "nobody can be arsed". is that, unlike asciilifeform , nobody regards website-with-random-numbers as relevant. i also don't spend my time trying to "be mentioned by new york times".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, nobody other than you will attempt to play the game on enemy terms.
mircea_popescu: like 15yo girls trying to get fucked if it's not painful.
mircea_popescu: however, they also lack the very military modesty of soviet russia, being instead old spinster maids. so they make a ... "here's a not really value we were only kidding k ?"
mircea_popescu: but yes, your intuition is broadly correct : usg lacks both the actual size and the self-perceived size of soviet russia. as a result, they don't come out with a "x per rouble" statement.
mircea_popescu: in general the way the proxy game is played is exactly like that, by proxy.
mircea_popescu: check it out lol, 10k reported sales brought it down 10%. such orcland prices.
mircea_popescu: 1:0 beotch, take your alfred and fuckgoats it!!!1 mwahahaha.
mircea_popescu: comparable to how copernicus needn't have been concerned re how the scholastics all agreed with themselves. of course they did, as part and parcel of what their cognitive system evben was, "consensus interpretations of aristotle".
mircea_popescu: except they're not 500 people in the first place, leave aside independent or intelligent. they're not even disjunct, they're just trying to monkey each other.
mircea_popescu: your objection pretends to feed itself from "oh, there are 500 people here, they're all independent, and disjunct, and intelligent, what are the odds NO ONE ELSE found magos edible ?!?!".
mircea_popescu: also much easier for user to interact with meaningfully, as the only way fs gets used up is by user personally putting something there ; whereas ram is eaten by 3rd party requests.
mircea_popescu: it's the only amount of useful that makes sense. think about it : the whole point of the box is to pool resources. if you have 100 users and each can at all times use 1/100 of the ram you get much worse results than if there's 100 users and they can use whatever ram's available ; and if it gets too tight you start politely inviting the larger consumers to move up ion the world.
mircea_popescu: it basically makes sure you can always talk to the box, even if apache maxes out, you won't be locked out of using say ssh.
mircea_popescu: should prolly change the topic to "if you'd like to help see $X, if you'd like to sleep you're fucked."
mircea_popescu: except of course novels are "jim opened the door" not "fuck you and here's 5 centuries' worth of accumulated reference in an endless maze HAAHHA"
mircea_popescu: 15k words since last night, are4 you fucking kidding me, everyone current is reading two novels / week.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for instance : given "he wondered why the girlies walked to the station and didn't shoot the redditard" the implicit read is "(he wondered why (the girlies (walked to the station) and (didn't shoot the redditard)))" not "(he wondered why (the girlies walked to the station) and (didn't shoot the redditard))"
mircea_popescu: ok, but how are the "rescued" hos figure into this ? why'd they shoot the random dweeb trying to convert them from honest workers into dependopopotami ?