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mp_en_viaje: heh. haven't logged in forever, they might even have.
asciilifeform wonders whether fatlife yet 'replaced' mp_en_viaje with that old fart retired mayor d00d or who was it
mp_en_viaje: anyway, i dunno imperial "platforms" have much utility beyond this derivative comedy value, of making a laughingstock of the empire and it's inept movements.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, currently im most amused at the inventing imaginary person with the most obscure of names. somehow oddly this chick didn't exist last year.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i actually used it briefly , many yrs ago, at the time it was just this tool for workers to drop in their cv and auto-spam it to employers etc
a111: Logged on 2016-08-01 00:44 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511937 << oh, "color revolutions" dun work ? tell you what, we'll steal your country's exports and with the proceeds finance an alt-country we'll pretend is realy your country. ha-ha!
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-01#1511945 and all that. socialism has a grand total of exactly 1 strategies. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: nah, prolly stays for a while, is deleted again, then "please verify acct", then "here's an imaginary someone else by your name", then etc.
asciilifeform guesses that if nicoleci were to log in an' put back, will find it readonly ?
asciilifeform: also wtf re the randomly dropping terrorist paragraph. normally they simply delete whole page
mp_en_viaje: "they know how to work those"
asciilifeform: re wai took >6mo?! aint cunt supposed to be a nonmaskable-interrupt
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914135 << bahahahahaha! and for extra lulz, phuctor was 'replaced' in <2hrs -- whereas this took, wat was it, 6mo ? ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: hey, maybe if real africans weren't really subhuman, they could be economically useful ?
mp_en_viaje: the question as to WHY " They couldn’t even get real Africans for the parts. " is amusingly left unaddressed.
diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: re programming otherwise, there's eulora with a shit-ton of interesting stuff to do but there like ~anywhere, it's always about digging deeper rather than looking wider as it were ☟︎
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ty
stjohn_piano_2: ^ trinque. hope you see the above about OTP before doing any investigation.
diana_coman: btw re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914012 -> I'd have thought you'd go straight for asciilifeform's TRNG schematics then, at the very least? ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: stjohn_piano_2: you need to ask; and it's a more general rule really
diana_coman: heh, as I was reading the log, I was wondering if you were trying there the right OTP or someone else's
stjohn_piano_2: in my notes, i had this sequence: 1) join forum, 2) deedbot will present OTP, 3) decrypt OTP, 4) use !!v OTP.
stjohn_piano_2: by mistake, i was attempting to decrypt the OTP sent to asciilifeform ☟︎
stjohn_piano_2: just back to say: solved (non-)mystery of OTP
diana_coman even still has somewhere a profile in there but can't be quite bothered atm about it
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i dunno, they do some rotation whining and displaying thing.
diana_coman: on which I can access the linkedin site I mean; possibly some paywall or whatever, didn't bother to really go around it
mp_en_viaje: (anyway, this is the answer, for the record, as to "but mp... why would you EVEN DO such a silly thing ?!?!" i do such "silly things" because nobody cancelled http://trilema.com/2012/strategic-superiority-a-saga/ ; i know what i wanted to have done last year to humiliate stupidity today.)
diana_coman: at least on the public toilet I can even access it
mp_en_viaje: precisely how one defeats the pantsuit strategy : unconnected examples.
diana_coman: ah, ah, purged refs on it; (linked in site was derping re login bla bla so I didn't get to see the content)
mp_en_viaje: the mechanical similarity to the phuctor example should be illustrative enough. it's one thing for the "sceptical" tard to say whatever bla-bla re the former case ; but the two presented together are particularly strong, because absolutely the only commonality is their unpalatability to the femstate.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, well, removed any tmsr reference on one ; invented a spare.
diana_coman: o.O they replaced her profile on linked in??
mp_en_viaje: "Nicole's curiosity about life has put her on a path of ever-deepening self-discovery. She believes in gentleness towards oneself, practicing gratitude, always having fun, and that laughter is one of the great keys to well-being."
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform, mp_en_viaje: thanks again for the patient help.
stjohn_piano_2: i'm going to get off the screen for today.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 19:12 stjohn_piano_2: people reeeeally try though. "machine learning" (rather than "statistical sampler with paremeter adjustment").
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914105 << this is actually a pretty decent name for it. SSPA. ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: to quote myself "To attack a hidden-key address, an adversary would need to discover weaknesses in: ECDSA, SHA256, RIPEMD-160. These weaknesses would also have to be compatible. To attack a known-key address, an adversary would only need to discover a weakness in ECDSA."
mp_en_viaje: hard to beat the loving slave in most personal applications.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 19:06 stjohn_piano_2: although, i am surprised. i had thought "driver" was one category of subordinate where you could trust that the subordinate would do the work carefully, for his own sake.
stjohn_piano_2: section is called "Does the hash in a Bitcoin address provide any protection?" (if you search the page for that string, you'll get to it)
stjohn_piano_2: i wrote this up myself, to figure it out
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: there's a potential down-side tho, of this method -- addr that has never transacted is shielded by the hash (i.e. the pubkey is not available to third party yet) as well as the ecc mechanism; one that has transacted , is only shielded by the latter
mp_en_viaje: you understand there's a (very theoretical) weaking of an address through reuse tho ?
stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914109 << yes. i didn't even trust the implementation of the hash function though. i started out with the assumption "it's all terrible" and the conclusion was "the only true test is to get a transaction from this address into the blockchain". ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: thanks. i have read it already though (and much of trilema).
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 18:44 stjohn_piano_2: well, in my initial half-understanding of bitcoin, was nervous about moving bitcoin into offline address without knowing (for certain) that i could retrieve it.
stjohn_piano_2: re: testing: excellent. i will eventually buy one. need to get a job first.
asciilifeform: 'As to the agent... his interests are very much not aligned with theirs. He wants to take as much for himself -- as well is his right, and as exactly is proper. They should have nothing, and he should have it all.' etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje had a piece re the futility.
stjohn_piano_2: people reeeeally try though. "machine learning" (rather than "statistical sampler with paremeter adjustment"). ☟︎
asciilifeform: observe, on fg www, the series of 'and now x tested' links. the buyers, did not simply 'believe' that unit worx, they took the time to verify.
stjohn_piano_2: yes. people try, but final responsibility can never be outsourced.
asciilifeform: point being, even if you have 100 pairs of hands, for the 1 that is actually attached to your shoulders there is not really a substitute.
asciilifeform: sultan abdul hamid ii of course had guards. but also could, is said, hit a thimble from 50 metres with nagant, with either hand
stjohn_piano_2: although, i am surprised. i had thought "driver" was one category of subordinate where you could trust that the subordinate would do the work carefully, for his own sake. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( 'important' was... his driver. who was there simply in case he gets tired. )
asciilifeform: there is famous joke from the time, where some official gets a ride in his car, and thinks 'who is that fella, who is so high and mighty that brezhnev himself is his driver !!'
asciilifeform: the risk from using one built by another pair of hands, pretty much always makes it seem a losing proposition to purchase a walletron of any kind whatsoever. hence why the market for'em is fulla rubbish, built for chumps.
asciilifeform: the 20-30 serious btc people that apparently exist, already each constructed for himself an acceptable walletron, is my understanding.
stjohn_piano_2: the question in my mind is: does this strategy lose out to write-bitcoin-scripts-in-scripting-language to run offline on whatever cheap hardware china makes?
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: i'll be the very last to say 'how to monetize'. the subj is re the simple matter of with what to construct machine so that you can even ~have~ money, should you come up with from where to get.
stjohn_piano_2: question becomes: spend lots of time becoming expert in old tech, run homebrew hardware for running a wallet, but then: how to monetise? the expenditure in time alone is enormous.
asciilifeform: take a large trunk or two.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: consider a trip to e.g. romania . ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: i'm in the uk, for my sins.
stjohn_piano_2: so digging through junkyards is actually workable for my lifetime?
stjohn_piano_2: huh. now that is interesting.
asciilifeform: i have 1980s items that still not only work, but with original seals.
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: yes. i noticed. i have a 10yo macbook that functions still, while newer ones.... well, not so good.
asciilifeform: and without even trying specifically.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: you will find interesting that it is possible to build computer to last 100+ yrs.
stjohn_piano_2: well, when (roughly) can ~all the 70s, 80s stuff be expected to be dead, purely from entropy.
asciilifeform: around 10y ago the expectation became 'will be thrown out in 2-3y' and manufactured accordingly.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-12 03:29 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not only that period. i have strong suspicion that 'capacitor plague' never trooly ended, or will
asciilifeform: issue tends to be with 2000s 'konsoomer' irons . ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: ah interesting. did not know that. had assumed old stuff would break in some way over time.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: that 'future' is now.
stjohn_piano_2: i contemplated a future (my middle age?) in which all of the old stuff no longer works.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform, for instance, has small stockpile of soviet-made cpu. not enuff for 'let's make wallet product', and certainly there aint enuff demand to even consider such thing, but for personal use.
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: yes. the approach, for now, is fine.
asciilifeform: generally speaking, ideal irons for safety-critical system are from 'pre-internet age', i.e. the kind you could write working emulator for in a weekend or 2 ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: e.g. dig dig dig "ah, this Y is a wrapper around a half-melted X"
stjohn_piano_2: having spent significant time in their guts
asciilifeform: certainly terrible idea, if yer using e.g. the onboard rng.
stjohn_piano_2: asciilifeform: all this is true. is it still a bad idea if you run the raspi offline forever?
asciilifeform: ( popularly said 'it is cheap at least', but even this is disinfo, there are similar chinese boards costing half or less )
stjohn_piano_2: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1914041 << well, i don't yet know how to do ecdsa, ripemd160, sha256 on paper. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-03-07 00:01 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and deliberately pseudo-open architecture (runs linux, sure, but with massive closed blobs required even to boot. and vendor regularly pays media mouthpieces to lie about it; also posts astroturfed comments)
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: ftr 1 of the worst possible choices of iron for anyffin safety-critical ☝︎
stjohn_piano_2: well, in my initial half-understanding of bitcoin, was nervous about moving bitcoin into offline address without knowing (for certain) that i could retrieve it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: why generate tx to validate addr ? it's a pretty simple algo, with checksum
stjohn_piano_2: variant in this case is: use raspberry pi to generate offline transaction to confirm address validity.
asciilifeform: the ultimate mindfuck, is when you find that you already know 100% of'em, by name..
asciilifeform: scratch surface of $subj, and find that the # of 'serious' folx is 100-1000x smaller than you could have dreamed.
asciilifeform: 'the gears of the gods turn slowly' etc
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2 ^ is true. but slow. e.g. mp_en_viaje and asciilifeform baked a trng in '16; one might imagine erry single serious btc user would've bought. but guess what.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-16 17:18 mp_en_viaje: http://edgecase.net/articles/conversation_programmer_licences << what's the weird here ? a) wrt to a buncha people calling themselves x piano ; b) wrt to hand-publishing what's eminently a chatlog, as such ? why not use a logger and only publish selected snippets that need notes and such ?