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a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 07:42 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile the capitalists can claim to be marketing quality fiction, they've bridged the gap, see, they have both large herds of moomoos watching and also (plausibly-deniably) a good story being screened! and they even paid the author lotta money!
BingoBoingo: So the headlines in Pantsuit press today almost all relate to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914630 coming to an end. Turns out they did a modern democracy and made Sir Elliot of exquisite tastes king. ☝︎
diana_coman: re fp no idea, some people are very unlucky, too!
a111: Logged on 2019-05-20 14:46 asciilifeform: diana_coman: the inevitable association in my head re subj , is how in national museum of natural history in washington, there was at one point a coin-operated thing that 'see yourself as chimpanzee' .
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914735 - lolz, low and old tech! but yes, essentially the same thing, "see yourself as..." ☝︎
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the oddities lint trap, 1 in 2^32 , elementarily, chance of this longfp 'naturally'. (did he 'mine' it?! lol)
asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje is right, and even the 'ai beautifier' thing is redundant, all the machine needs to do is to work like the mirror in brothers grimm, whisper 'you are the fairest of them all' to the sow, will suffice. ☟︎
asciilifeform suspects that they took out the chimptron after certain users complained that the 'before' and 'after' pics were not sufficiently distinct...
asciilifeform: i guess they built one that worx in 'reverse gear' nao...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the inevitable association in my head re subj , is how in national museum of natural history in washington, there was at one point a coin-operated thing that 'see yourself as chimpanzee' . ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: "making improvements" on http://trilema.com/2019/diviziuna-sexual-a-muncii-fetele-la-gym-io-la-vidya-%d0%9a%d0%b0%d0%ba-tot-acolo/#comment-129134 ; much stronger claim of representativity if "made by ai" than if "found on net"
mp_en_viaje: it's altogether about replacing precious cuntlet as-she-is with a virtual imago that's more in line with her self-expectations.
diana_coman: I thought those mirrors/apps/whatevs were about showing how makeup/whatever would look like on the looker's face i.e. with a camera/pic taken not on model; anyways, supposedly if the "could have" was enough, everyone has it, what's to say they could not have gotten whatever at any time.
mp_en_viaje: they want to could have gotten laid. ☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: afaik most people don't want to get laid
asciilifeform: all that's missing is an electric attachment that'll fuck'em also
a111: Logged on 2019-05-19 20:18 mp_en_viaje: "Our in-store AR mirror software provides a universal set of features for the most popular smart mirrors on the market. Beauty brands and hardware manufacturers can choose any mirror hardware of their choice and can instantly run ModiFace AR technology adopted to their mirrors."
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-19#1914711 << lol! variant of the phone thing?! 'old sow looks in mirror, magically transforms to beauty' ? mega-bizmodel ☝︎
asciilifeform subscribed for coupla yrs nao; seems to be the only 1 that worx in orcistans (as modem) at 0 extra cost. and overall 'cheap & angry'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-19 20:29 mp_en_viaje: in other better living through technology, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/t-mobile-deceived-customers-with-false-ring-tones-on-failed-phone-calls/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-19#1914714 << to pile on this lulz: afaik that one's actually 1 of the ~least~ scammy carriers in this part of reich ☝︎
BingoBoingo to the blogging desk to assemble more Uruguay perspectives with lobbes and whaack showing interest in visiting the place. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: And the crime where all of the fine goes to the USG's extortion reception bucket with the matter declared settled after payment to not the injured parties.
mp_en_viaje: the system's meanwhile well expanded throughout europe and south/central america. fining these fucks has the perverse result that it gives them a datapoint, which they will then use.
mp_en_viaje: in other better living through technology, https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/04/t-mobile-deceived-customers-with-false-ring-tones-on-failed-phone-calls/ ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: better living through technology, providing answers to the burning "how does this mirror relate to me" question of the general public.
mp_en_viaje: "Our in-store AR mirror software provides a universal set of features for the most popular smart mirrors on the market. Beauty brands and hardware manufacturers can choose any mirror hardware of their choice and can instantly run ModiFace AR technology adopted to their mirrors." ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: in any case, it's not suggested to stay in reich ; the discussion was rather "if you stay". much like advice for diabetics isn't "first, get diabetes", but rather "if you already have diabetes..."
mp_en_viaje: if you're dumb enough to think they're you're friends, if you're dumb enough to buy into socialism "futures" and assorted scams, or "statuses" and other nominalisms, you may not survive.
mp_en_viaje: this is the cornerstone of survival : the adversative relationship. as long as you know you're there to steal, you measure how much you steal, and you get out on some sort of time horizon, you may survive. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: whaack, in summary, it's application of http://trilema.com/2018/the-principal-agent-problem-or-how-america-went-away/ ; "if you're not rich, pretending to be agent of imperial morons so as to separate them from their earthly goods is time-honored strategy"
trinque: not telling you not to leave, nor where to live. just remember that you need to have something you *do* wherever you go. ☟︎
whaack: trinque: i can't say i fully grok the advice, perhaps in part because i can't readily read the linked manual, and bc the advice seems to suggest staying in reich, which directly contradicts the usual guidance given here
asciilifeform: trinque: g_l , i suspect, is properly dead ( never found a terrydavis-style obit, no, but he did leave off shithubing which prolly is unlikely for him if were still alive.. )
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell PeterL http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2032&cpage=1#comment-19792
trinque: and meanwhile maybe the fucking infects him, takes him early, as e.g. Framedragger, g_l, others
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 08:07 mp_en_viaje: not to mention poverty is an absolute obligation -- can't sit around going "meh" about saprophytism while being hungry. read ye poor people the 1860s manual, go forth and rob "your masters" blind. absolutely.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914643 << indeed, I encourage whaack et al to do the fucking, and not simply skip to the imitating having fucked, lest they entirely waste youth. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 06:43 mp_en_viaje: so strategically my notion here is to use a separated approach -- keep the theory clean and neat in one place, and encourage activity informed by it, but do not permit said activity to fuck up the theory.
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914620 << it makes perfect sense, and I agree with the approach ☝︎
trinque: alrighty, I'll investigate next time it happens.
trinque: I'm going to quickly restart deedbot in a repl session, so next time this hang occurs I can fiddle with the thing live.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 17:36 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914645 << not strictly correct -- consider how cheese, beer, etc. produced. or , in similar vein, how reich got 'phree' 30+yrs of life out of the 'yeast' digesting sovok
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914669 << i suppose, not strictly true. rennet ftw. ☝︎
trinque: apparently so, thanks asciilifeform
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: re indonesia, oughta add the lulzy detail re the 'jammers'
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/05/violence-today-modern-democracy-bringing-misery-to-indonesia-arin-iran-and-bolton-watch/ << Qntra -- Violence Today: Modern Democracy Bringing Misery to Indonesia, ARIN, Iran, And Bolton Watch
asciilifeform: or for that matter, the bolix thread.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 18:37 asciilifeform: and even if he believes that it ~cannot~ be further shrunk, it remains his job to die trying
a111: Logged on 2017-05-31 16:28 asciilifeform: and if someone wants to mention godel etc -- ethical engineer MAY NOT cite godel, EVER, just as a police detective MAY NOT cite the supernatural and admit a hypothesis of miraculous theft from a safe
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 07:48 mp_en_viaje: in which context, the way http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914461 rather reads to me is the direct converse, "most idiots wallow in their filth". this is even true, but i happen to be a zealot in the following sense : i do not admit any sort of proof can ever be brought so as to show the bad preferable to the good.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914634 << in same vein, i think, as http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658461 thrd ☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: to take simply 1 example, asciilifeform's mains socket even nao is connected to... sovok pu, sold at fire sale price in 1990s to usg
asciilifeform: ( whether 'worth mention' can be a question, but from pov of the folx who cultured the yeast for half century, certainly looked like a win )
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 08:10 mp_en_viaje: digestion never produced anything worth the mention. it's true that it can not be skipped, in the quest to "higher expression", but that's also as far as it goes.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914645 << not strictly correct -- consider how cheese, beer, etc. produced. or , in similar vein, how reich got 'phree' 30+yrs of life out of the 'yeast' digesting sovok ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-24 16:11 asciilifeform: kurchatov, supposedly, sat and thought, and few minutes later answered, 'perhaps from philosophical pov this'd be consistent. but then we will have to forget about obtaining the bomb.'
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 06:43 mp_en_viaje: so strategically my notion here is to use a separated approach -- keep the theory clean and neat in one place, and encourage activity informed by it, but do not permit said activity to fuck up the theory.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 07:42 mp_en_viaje: it's win-win, see : the herd can "plausibly-deniably" claim to be watching "something cool". as far as every moomoo in the herd is concerned, they're not a buncha lamers. heck, they're almost cool, they sure as fuck watch true drama, where heroes die (sometime)!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914628 << iirc that thing was popular only ~after~ book2film , and strictly ~because~ meat grinder (iirc ~errybody gets killed or at the very least mutilated) ☝︎
diana_coman: for all the good that accurate prediction (and the necessary clear and deep enough understanding of the matter) ever did as it were, esp re outcome.
mp_en_viaje: extremely difficult to dismiss a) text of b) clear ideological tendency which c) nevertheless makes statements as of the future d) at some time in the past which e) were borne by historical flow.
mp_en_viaje: yet the ~prediction~ it makes is entirely correct.
mp_en_viaje: urei și a tutulor științelor, va pierde prea curînd și primatul muzical, singura glorie ce i-a mai rămas și care nu i s-a contestat pînă acum de nici o națiune." << pop music duscussed cca1840s.
mp_en_viaje: "Domnilor, maestrul Verdi, daca mai esistă bunul gust pe lumea asta, nu e decît un mare șarlatan, și daca tinerii compozitori vor merge pe calea însemnată de dînsul, pe curînd vom fi nevoiți a zice adio muzicii, artiștilor și gustului celui bun. Verdi, domnilor, vă declar, și-mi susțin declarațiunea, este un scamator muzical și de se va urma tot așa, Italia, care pierde preeminența sculpturei, picturei, literat
mp_en_viaje: north well past vistula and in the east all the way to fucking lithuania.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 15:08 mircea_popescu: romanian peasant proud continuator of rome, through the byzantium method. "we've been holding eyes closed to world for 2k years, because head does not follow reality, reality follows head!"
mp_en_viaje: in other obscura : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Imper-Barbar.jpg ; attempt at a map of "romania" as defined by stubborn traditionalism ; eminently excluding most of present day state of romania ; suspicious because over-centered on the somewhat arbitrary cutoff in 7-800ad. in practical terms surface extends today WAY past traditiona; mures-nistru space ; in the ☝︎
spyked: mp_en_viaje, should take less than that, giving myself time to work through potential unexpected issues, e.g. it's been a while since last time I used hunchentoot, need to reload it in head.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/090-tmsr-work-ii.html << The Tar Pit -- Schedule for Republican work, May-June 2019
mp_en_viaje: digestion never produced anything worth the mention. it's true that it can not be skipped, in the quest to "higher expression", but that's also as far as it goes. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: yet none of this changes what things are.
mp_en_viaje: not to mention poverty is an absolute obligation -- can't sit around going "meh" about saprophytism while being hungry. read ye poor people the 1860s manual, go forth and rob "your masters" blind. absolutely. ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: moreover, it's an important rite of passage, it's something everyone should do, i have little faith in the born-impotent, people who never ran catabolic processes to a tidy profit, let alone know, relaxedly and from ample experience, that they always could.
mp_en_viaje: but this is a very personal thing -- i don't begrudge anyone left the interest his interest ; i'll even read the stories of faits d'armes, just because i'm too old to get it up anymore dun mean impotence is desirable now or some shit. fuck that world sideways, take all its money, by all means.
mp_en_viaje: ugly whore in every hole so many times so many ways i'm utterly done ?
mp_en_viaje: i personally can't be arsed to extract money out of the decay of outside world. this is purely personal -- ive been doing it for a long time, marginal utility of more money for me personally is 0, intellectual curiosity left is nil, how shall this be best put ? fucked that
mp_en_viaje: certainly b is time-weak -- a body as humongous as the empire of the billion white men, built over millenia with great care, is quite capable of rotting for longer than a lifetime. fuck, it has in point of fact been rotting for longer than a lifetime, a few times over, even! both theoreticaly and from direct historical record it's clear enough : b is quite time-weak.
mp_en_viaje: in yet another possible (and idempotently equivalent) statement, the republic's a rare anabolic island in a wider body politic that went full catabolic. obviously our methods, our inputs and our outputs do not match the outside world. but a) we knew this going in and b) the premise is that catabolism does not last.
mp_en_viaje: stated by me, it sounds like a "no brainer", but it is in fact zealotry like any other : obviously "as a matter of definition" the good is better than the bad hurr durr ; the hidden coda is that i also hold these to be ~knowable~. suddenly, it's not so directly obvious.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 23:17 trinque: republic is scant of profit centers
mp_en_viaje: in which context, the way http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914461 rather reads to me is the direct converse, "most idiots wallow in their filth". this is even true, but i happen to be a zealot in the following sense : i do not admit any sort of proof can ever be brought so as to show the bad preferable to the good. ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: (and really, only possible in fundamentally broken societies, and so much so that the mere presence of the mechanism is dispositive, not merely indicative, on the topic of social death -- once NH2(CH2)5NH2 is there therefore life already left).
mp_en_viaje: there's no argument that this can be done. it's a chumpatron, definitionally : get a buncha chumps gathered around an economically exploitable weakness, you thereby have a negotiable instrument that can thus therefore be sold for money. the argument is that doing this ~is not useful~
mp_en_viaje: and the author, who traded his work in for this exact usage (and, i'm pretty convinced, made it exactly to this spec in the first place), is "successful writer" -- the part that's a writer not successful and the part that's successful, not a writer.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile the capitalists can claim to be marketing quality fiction, they've bridged the gap, see, they have both large herds of moomoos watching and also (plausibly-deniably) a good story being screened! and they even paid the author lotta money! ☟︎
mp_en_viaje: it's win-win, see : the herd can "plausibly-deniably" claim to be watching "something cool". as far as every moomoo in the herd is concerned, they're not a buncha lamers. heck, they're almost cool, they sure as fuck watch true drama, where heroes die (sometime)! ☝︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: once netflix or whoever bought it, they bought a very valuable franchise : now they can "continue" the "famous work of fiction" but ~without~ killing anyone anymore. this is what they're mass-marketing : "come ye herds, and watch the a) famous work of fiction where everyone dies but b) without anyone dying while you watch".
mp_en_viaje: perhaps the best example in latter this vein would be the case of the guy writing "game of thrones" -- he did two things : gathered a demo and provided an in. his in, craftily written in, was "everyone always dies".
mp_en_viaje: yes on occasion schmuck can sell his body with some political (like the caleb crain idiot hoped to do) or commercial success (like say that j k rowling retard, who "made a billion dollars" (in the usual manner) by "writing fiction" aka herdin
a111: Logged on 2019-05-18 00:23 asciilifeform: trinque: i once attended a gathering of 'writers'. one unusually introspective type uttered phrase 'do you all understand that we're competing for each other's beer money'
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-18#1914464 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/#selection-127.158-131.25 ; the situation is therefore precisely described. ☝︎
mp_en_viaje: does this make any sense to you trinque ?
mp_en_viaje: so strategically my notion here is to use a separated approach -- keep the theory clean and neat in one place, and encourage activity informed by it, but do not permit said activity to fuck up the theory. ☟︎☟︎
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile to revolution you must crack skulls (and even widely successful revolutions a la russia still end up reverted to mean by same cunt process).
mp_en_viaje: to widen the base you must water down the product, which exposes you downstream to the reversion problem -- even what appeared a bona fide revolution in the 90s could in fact be undone by the cunt process ;
mp_en_viaje: what's more, it's a problem that only can possibly have two classes of solution : either, like successful merchants, widen the base ; or else, like successful politicians, revolution.
a111: Logged on 2019-05-17 23:18 trinque: I could e.g. make deedbot wallet exorbitant for friends, and all this would gain me is beer money and fewer friends.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914462 << this is a problem. ☝︎