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lobbes: re wot: I mean, the serenity of leveraging the wot, imho, is that it is a purely individual-to-individual thing by design. In this case, you have Pizarro (P) who has customer relationships with MP and D. D has been negrated by T on the basis of Tx. MP can either decide 1) Tx means enough to request P get rid of D, in which case P now determines if it values MP or D moar, or 2) MP decides Tx does not mean enough to request P get rid of D.
douchebag: I need to get a domain now, and get mpwp setup
trinque: mod6: since his remedy involves access to a place to post the report, I'll give it until the end of the day, which is ample time to get a blog up and a post (even incomplete, so what) up. ☟︎
mod6: And what I should have said is: In light of the douchebag being neg-rated by a someone, a TMSR~ Lord especially, douchebag will be removed from access. This may change if his status changes.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-20 03:43 douchebag: Alright, I can have that done in the next week or so. I'm currently using the rockchip box to host a webpage to troll someone, so I want the lulz there to continue to it's full potential
trinque: the intent here is to force him to make good on his word. earlier he said the rockchip was going to be a tool to get acquainted with trb, and now it's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815869 ☝︎
trinque: mod6: contracts often have a cure period, eh? suppose it's "negrated party has $time to fix his reputation"
trinque: douchebag: since I can read, I can see a spurious "v" in that command ☟︎☟︎
mod6: This is fine, my thinking is that he will be removed. If the rating changes at some point, then we will reconsider allowing him to be a customer.
trinque: mod6: if I tell you, I'm giving someone I'm already punishing for weaselbehavior a defined mechanism to weasel further ☟︎
trinque: I think "nobody does business with any L1-negrated party" is a bit strict. folks need to be able to beat someone over the head with disapproval without removing their ability to take part in society by having done so. ☟︎
douchebag: I already have a webserver running on my pizarro box. I just don't know how I'm supposed to unpack mpwp
trinque: if you press me on terms I'll remove the -1, you risk creating a mommyprocess anyone with a negrate can appeal to. ☟︎
mod6: This is not a negotiation. Just asking what the deal is. Cause Pizarro is going to end up removing him from the hardware.
mod6: Is this a 'forever -1'?
mod6: sooo... trinque, is the neg-rating on douchebag going to stand? because mircea_popescu has rented him a rockchip (right?) and according to the rules we laid out, I think we said that douchebag would be removed from access to the hardware.
esthlos: in case anyone missed these lulz: if you pass --no-default-keyring to gpg but don't supply another keyring, gpg... uses the default keyring. and if you pass a keyring, it assumes it's in the home directory
trinque: just driving at using the logs in a particular manner, so threads build towards more coherence. working in isolation, v-in-my-head disjoins from v-in-yours.
trinque: there is a 1.4.something preserved in a deed
trinque: esthlos: nobody here is using a 2.x gpg
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815935 << i'ma give it a proper look ☝︎
esthlos: now for your comments: getting rid of the defpackage was a bad oversight, no real reason. My guess why gpg is failing is because I'm using 2.2.4 while I think most of you guys use 1.x . Moving to 1.x is on my backlog, but it was deprioritized becasue I didn't want to spend the time converting my keys. Another oversight, I suppose ☟︎
esthlos: but you should know that, new as I am, it takes me a long time to even get through one day of log while understanding what is going on
esthlos: if I need to be able to respond within a day to work with you guys, I will do my best to change things around ☟︎
esthlos: trinque: my current plan has been this: I digest the logs in batches every few days, but search for my nick at least once a day. since my nick wasn't referred to in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815256 , I missed it. my approach may be inadequate, since trilema is the first time I've used irc and I don't really know what I'm doing. but it's a reality of my schedule that sometimes I won't be able to respond for two days or so ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '(1960*4-8-8-16-64-24-6144 -- this includes two commas and a 2048 bit exponent)' << out of curiosity, how come your exponent is capped at 2048 ? or did i misread this ?
trinque: I don't have a defined expiration time for them. If bot operators are interested in ^ maybe we'll go ahead and say it's 3 months, or whatever's sensible.
spyked: hm. so trinque, OTPs don't have any sort of expiration? the scenario I'm thinking of is that eventually my (for example) home ISP would do some stupid thing that would lead to the TCP connection going down. but that could happen in a week, a month or six from now, so I'd want that OTP to be valid whenever that happens.
trinque: spyked: one could make many voicing OTPs, and put them in a hopper for the bot. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, the social engineering part is trying to downgrade the look at the bot (ie, ANY one key) to look at randos (ie, a CERTAIN key).
douchebag: I could have got a reverse shell on the box though, is the gpg privkey for the bot not sitting on the vulnerable machine?
lobbes: so, in theory, sure. But in practice you'd have to expend quite a bit of effort to find the gpg privkey in order to decrypt deedbot's challenge to determine the balance of that one deedbot wallet, which still isn't finding a flaw in deedbot, just good social engineering attack (e.g. picking a key off someone's person does not mean the lock the key belongs to is flawed)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-20#1815879 << also to note, you would have had to compromise my network (which, sure, possible) because the box you achieved RCE on is a dedicated public toilet box containing no privkeys of import. I use a proper airgapped machine for important stuff (ala http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/) ☝︎
trinque: she went to religious school, got an english lit degree and a huge pile o' debt
Mocky: yeah i've seen crazy shit like that, most of it in flordia. once saw a dude riding a wheelie on the interstate opposite direction. never saw his front tire on the ground
trinque: I was driving on the highway once, tight traffic, and a guy comes by on a crotch rocket laying like superman on the seat, feet out behind him, weaves through the cars at close to 100mph
Mocky: damn, I had a soccer mom in a mini van try to lane change on me without looking first just yesterday while riding
mircea_popescu: and there's these foot+ ditches on either side, there's no surviving as a bike.
mircea_popescu: so girl goes around it, therefgore also on wrong way, and the next thing there's a fucking motorcycle coming downhill.
douchebag: Alright, I can have that done in the next week or so. I'm currently using the rockchip box to host a webpage to troll someone, so I want the lulz there to continue to it's full potential ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so get a load of this : i'm going uphill in the pitch darkness, you know, these complete hairpin curves, and WHAM! there's a fucking police truck, parked, searchlights etc, on THE WRONG WAY
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:21 trinque: great. I'd like you to review the dependencies of trb (which were frozen at particular versions) for known public exploits, and to publish a report of this on your own mpwp blog.
douchebag: Not all of them, but a decent amount
trinque: btw see how I'm having a thread with myself and getting somewhere? imagine if ya joined in!
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 03:50 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814596 << gave this a whirl, but press of trb's makefiles.vpatch says GnuPG failed to import key ".../wot/ben_vulpes.asc".
trinque: speaking of press, press needs to ask where to press as a parameter, and not have a default.
trinque: esthlos: there's also no sense in giving the thing a version number. the "version" is the patch the operator pressed to.
trinque: it'd be bad form to try to throw a genesis patch "over the wall" for this without taking the time to have the necessary threads.
asciilifeform: lobbes: i gotta ask, is there a reason you dislike using proper logline quoting ?
lobbes: mircea_popescu> [23:49:57] then there's nepos, appian, dio.. << ah, excellent, these give me a lot to run with. ty
trinque: lobbes: I find your quoting style kinda hard to read. looks like a non sequitur in whatever thread they appear until the end is reached, and oh ">>"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 19:22 mircea_popescu: lobbes, sure ; though it's iffier there, in that caesar and then espeically augustus actually attempted a restart of the proper republic out of the ashes of the shit it had ended up in. caesar in this sense is the polar opposite of lincoln, ie, attempted to manipulate the overwhelming pantsuit into the extinction-or-sanity dilemma, rather than being manipulated by the underwhelming pantsuit into internecine warfare.
lobbes: I really need to get back to reading Gibbon's "Decline and Fall", though I'm starting to think that perhaps I should be starting with a text that deals with the -rise and formation- of the republic and eventual empire so as to give better context as to what, exactly, was declining. And on that note: anyone recommend a good text for that subject? >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815645 ☝︎
lobbes: phew, I've got a lifetime of translating ahead of me. It is fun, however
lobbes: I will say, I've started keeping very detailed notes of everything I do re: my various projects. has become an extension of my brain really >> mircea_popescu> and even today, i know ~nothing "without checking my notes". nor do i want to, wtf. that's why there's a log, after all, because of this style.
mircea_popescu: defining knowledge as "that which happens without your notes" is not unlike telling a bunch of F1 pilots that speed is that which happens without their car. really ?
mircea_popescu: this simple measure experimentally increases productivity by an order of magnitude, counterintuitive as that may be. because "programming" essentially consists of people spending ten hours to save five minutes, much like "business" is, by bulk, people working 14 to 16 hour days to make a dime an hour ~while they sleep~, except they only sleep 4-5 hours a night.
mircea_popescu: and the model is readily expanded to writing software, too. by the time you've had enough of writing $x, you'll write a script to write $x for you. AND NOT BEFORE.
mircea_popescu: and even today, i know ~nothing "without checking my notes". nor do i want to, wtf. that's why there's a log, after all, because of this style.
mircea_popescu: mind that there's no point in putting a bonus on "not checking notes". that's why they're notes, to be checked. let memory adapt naturally and unconstrained -- when the animal you inhabit has had enough of the motor effort to check up $X, it'll memorize it ; and before--- it checks. ☟︎
lobbes: this is how I've been approaching Deutsch lernen von Kant; I've been going through word-by-word and physically writing down my own researched definitions of each word. Then I'll re-read trying to reconstruct with my new definitions in hand until I encounter something new, then repeat. Slow going (I can read a total of 3 sentences now without checking my notes) but it has been working for me so far, daran ist gar kein Zweifel >> http://btcbase.org
lobbes: oh hey, thank you. this is a pretty cool tool >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815685 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there'd conceivably be onlty a coupla thousand of them.
asciilifeform: recall, we already had a 'set top bit and nexprime()' bunch: http://qntra.net/2016/08/phuctor-finds-seven-keys-produced-with-null-rng-and-other-curiosities
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fact that both 220.157.192.232 and 113.37.155.10 used ~different~ keys that had this as a factor kinda favour your theory, "set bit on null-rnd, nextprime()".
mircea_popescu: ie, conceivably, someone had a set of 64-bit registers, one of which contained "cd"
asciilifeform: aha, part of a 2048b modulus
asciilifeform: with a sprinkle of nobus on top.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 18:52 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the lullicus maxiumus, http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factor/5332 >> 1) it's a prime 2) it's a... i'ma leave this as exercise for the reader !
douchebag: Also made friends with a couple of people I had no idea were even going, they just happened to mention they were at the same conference in chat so we met up
douchebag: I also got to meet some internet friends there - it was a great time
douchebag: Yeah, I went there with 2 people from class one was a female and she introduced me to a bunch of her coworkers which were primarily female so we just got drunk and watched conference talks
Mocky: i figured can't be worse than programming java, and it was a cool feeling owning some web app, but didn't pan out
douchebag: I was at a 3 security conferences in the past month, had a great time
Mocky: i don't remenmber, some bigish security consultancy, do a lot of conference talks, anyway almost interviews with those lying bastards, after spending a month doing their 'hack the firmware' challenge and 'find all the security holes in this web site' challenge
Mocky: i tried my hand at that stuff a year ago, you heard of ncc group?
douchebag: I also found an open redirect, which they patched. I was able to bypass their fix so I'm waiting on a reply from that now
douchebag: Woo, got a $1k bug bounty :D
danielpbarron: there is a lot of similarity between atruechurch and trilema -- fixation on what the retards are teaching other retards, hated for it, and every so often someone gets it and stops by
mircea_popescu: may i suggest one of your next posts, by the title "A summary of MacArthur & stuff, for the use of MP, who doesn't give a shit about such things" ?
Mocky: i thought he was a good speaker at the time, i guess his shtick was explaining (his understanding of) the scriptural hermeneutics to people who don't care about such things but want to feel as if they do
mircea_popescu: btw lobbes, let me ask you this : when is a door not a door ? ☟︎
Mocky: yeah was a huge 'fan' of macarthur for years, had macarthur study bible i carried around, listened to him on the radio etc
mircea_popescu: "Grace Community Church". what a stupid name.
mircea_popescu: well adapted to life in a democracy, sure, but that's besides the point. mentally vacuous as all get-out.
mircea_popescu: this is incidentally a pretty decent parlour trick : take a bonbon in one hand and nothing i nthe other, and present young child with the choice -- but shake your head no as he goes for the bonbon. you'll be surprised (really, in esl lands you'll be downright shocked) how much trouble young kids have in escaping this trap.
mircea_popescu: because this works, especially if you're a 40yo woman confronting a 5yo boy.
mircea_popescu: rather, you realise, david fish is not ~personally~ interesting to whatever ocean trawler neoprotestant californian "mega" church. the strict item that interests them is to reduce the sovereignity issue. as far as they're concerned the most important property of the universe is integration, a single center with everything in a star pattern. so he's supposed to be confronted very much with a "choice" (in the http://trilema.com
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, you aware the dood has a set of detractors/"critics" yes ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-19 16:25 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, btw, i'm curious : has your fish friend figured out the "He admits he cannot name one other Christian leader outside his own little band of followers—anyone who has lived in the two millennia between the death of the last apostle and the advent of Darwin Fish—who has remained faithful to the truth." bla bla bla "criticism" is very strictly a http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22there+was+a+limit+where+the+fla
Mocky: wow i missed a seinfeld reference, i just watched all 6 good seasons of that, damn 2 years ago
mircea_popescu: it's a seinfeld joke. from the virgin. "you could get forty hooks in here!"
mircea_popescu: it's true that on one hand this failed spectacularily with chinese in my own hands ( http://trilema.com/2016/lets-do-chinese-together/ ) ; and that a girl's on the record as having spent A YEAR with a moderate length ENGLIS?H text in this way. nevertheless, no other avenues work, long and involved and beset with perils as this one may indeed turn out to be.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless with patience you can construct your own dictionary translation, which may be informative ; and in any case is a process of actual learning as opposed to going to us.school.
mircea_popescu: the horiz arrows / bars on top take you through the text ; if you click on any word you get a report, and lexicon links (multiple, because http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-11#1697164 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a golden thread uniting the house of strangers and http://trilema.com/2018/pepi-luci-bom-y-otras-chicas-del-monton/ : that woman, the misfortunate burden bearer, beset by stupid girlies and stupider boys.
Mocky: yeah but isnt' that why you call it polyamory, so that after it gets jacked then well it was never a 'harem' and it was never 'yours' ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> doesn't ~anyone~ get tenure anymore ?! << Promoted out of it suggest the idle life of a single graduate seminar every other semester + lab.
mircea_popescu: on meditation, i suspect the reason for http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-19#1815573 actually is, that the item exists (at least at its core) as a campus dating club. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-08-03 02:13 asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'Exploring Encryption and Potential Mechanisms for Authorized Government Access to Plaintext: Proceedings of a Workshop.' Anne Johnson, Emily Grumbling, and Jon Eisenberg, Rapporteurs. THE NATIONAL ACADEMIES PRESS 500 Fifth Street, NW Washington, DC 20001 This activity was supported by the Office of the Director for National Intelligence, under Contract....