asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's quite obscure, never took off industrially
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform is not aficionado of 'plan9', but will note that it achieved 1 thing -- was, at its mid-2000s peak, 10x smaller LOC-wise than linux )
asciilifeform: they took it to even moar ridiculous heights in 'plan9'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: bell labs invented exactly 1 os pheature, and it became 'the hammer for all screws'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's the 'unix philosophy' sad.
asciilifeform: but without time machine, hard to say if were opium , or combo, or something entirely else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the records use term 'black fragrance'. which at least later came to refer to subj.
asciilifeform: ... whereas the 'dens' that europeans ended up seeing, were fulla folx who had problem standing up, much less fuck...
asciilifeform: i suspect there's something to the 'fractional distillation' hypothesis -- there's ample record of chinese emperors, officials, & their concubines, doing opium 'to amplify fuck', which as i understand is not compatible with morphinism as it is known to modern industrial dopeheads
asciilifeform: egyptians, iirc, we know to have eaten it.
asciilifeform: possibly. dunno how they were used tho.
asciilifeform: prolly not quite oldest, the sublimator pipe was a 17th c invention, and preceded by tobacco
asciilifeform: btw according to 1 source, the opium people were actually 'class-stratified' in that poorfucks smoked 'recycled' crud, containing moar morphine , and got stupider ( vs the elite, who took in 'prime' material, never heated previously )☟︎
asciilifeform: aha. there's a reason herbivores have mega-liver
asciilifeform: me neither, but apparently there's ~2dozen diff items in'ere.
asciilifeform: i.e. different processes give diff combos of the orig vegetable's poisons, and result in diff effect
asciilifeform: but if can be bought from mircea_popescustan...
asciilifeform: ah hm i thought mircea_popescu specifically wanted a usa #
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re tollfree thing : i found several vendors who will forward voice to a voip thing 'anywhere on globe'. can get quotes if you like, tonight/earlytomorrow. do you have whom to pick it up ?
asciilifeform: moreover, i suspect that the fixation on, and abuse of, 'streams', really flows from the orig unix retardation where 'errything is a file' and otherwise ~0 useful abstractions available at all
asciilifeform: btw one doesn't ~have~ to use table. (it's maybe 10-20x faster than not, depending on cpu, is why folx do. but when i crc on microcontrollers i dun use table, it eats coupla kB)
asciilifeform: btw there's a 'fixed buffer <--> stream' item in there that prolly oughta get genesised, i expect it'll come in handy.
asciilifeform: ( imho the only situation where stream abstraction makes sense is when you have serial i/o of variably-sized crapola. to date i've used'em in only 1 piece, the classical-btc block/tx reader/writer , 'nqb' )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there really aren't so many things that legitimately call for 'streams', i have nfi what the standard authors were thinking...☟︎☟︎
