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mircea_popescu: the problem of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-23#1817790 has a very ready converse, as i'm sure you realised. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and there's a necessary portion that has to always run that way (also per goedel).
asciilifeform: the h can float for a while; it isn't as if intelligent heathen will find mircea_popescu by reading arsebook/nyt/whichever volkischer beobachter
mircea_popescu: in vitro, purified virus is essentially a large molecule, as inert as salt. in vivo... what do you mean purified, and what do you mean inert.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, how are they to ~stay~ in the state ? see, that's the thing, "free floating hydrogen" as a theoretical possibility. sure, why not. "free floating hydrogen as a STABLE STATE"... well... no such theoretical possibility. it can't be a stable state for very clear reasons.
asciilifeform: i have him filed in my head as a victim of the 'goldbug disease' (i.e. pissed that btc stole 'their' lightning, in idjit tilt and consorting with enemy ever since )
mircea_popescu: dude suffered for a while from this "i don't wanna X!!!" syndrome, as if anyone was in any danger of asking anything like it. "i don't wanna go to the prom!!!" "fatty... who's asking you to ?!"
mod6: baby, i've got a fever. ☟︎☟︎
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/05/24/a-tiny-stab-at-a-little-pricing-problem/ << Ossasepia - A Tiny Stab at a Little Pricing Problem
asciilifeform: containing, i shit thee not, a twatter feed, even, with words '“The public was never in danger and the safety and security of the Minuteman system was never in doubt,” said Col. Matthew Dillow, 90th Missile Wing vice commander.'
asciilifeform: i have nfi. they're supposed to have a few choppers, apc's, etc. on top of the usual trucks.
mircea_popescu: do they test the grunts and only admit those who take up the girls for more than 8 mins at a time ?
asciilifeform: the land-based rockets are a joke within a joke, even usg assigns the saddest sacks of sads, explicitly, to the detail
asciilifeform: ( thermite-welding the hatch closed also worx wonders, asciilifeform's father as a grunt in su was trained for, among others, this party trick )
asciilifeform: because 'intruder/attacker' will do something other than drop a frag in the shaft and leave.
asciilifeform: lol re 'February 2016 photo, members of the 790th Missile Security Forces Squadron demonstrate their training for recapturing a Minuteman missile silo after being taken over by an intruder/attacker'
asciilifeform: it's a halfhr job.
asciilifeform: we can leave fleanode to the worms and flies , and jump into pizzarro + mircea_popescu's box + wherever else , within a day of mircea_popescu giving signal.
trinque: looks like I got a few notices about them herping with NickServ
mircea_popescu: trinque, dashes are a weird sort of pm.
trinque: are the dashes a fake account?
asciilifeform: incidentally asciilifeform was going through notebooks and found a theoretical nugget that iirc hasn't been posted. 1w of shortwave, using the error code discussed in prev thread, can propagate trans-continentally ( i.e. easily new york to montevideo ) . and can easily come out of unattended ( solar, thermal-charged ) box , at ~day intervals, hanging from tree in woods, illicitly glued into wall at tower construction site, etc
mircea_popescu: which means that yes, if tmsr builds a drone assembly line, it will work as designed.
mircea_popescu: but yes, evidently they can. this was after all the fucking point of even fabricating fgs / getting isp up etc : we CAN, as a factual matter, operate.
asciilifeform: fwiw tupolev ~did~ make a flying diesel. stalin scrapped it, as just-barely-+ev
mircea_popescu: trinque, i have serious reservations re an item with broken design. it's a little bit like reading ancient greek imaginary descriptions of places "they heard exist", i have trouble digesting.
mircea_popescu: and renaming "x -- will take an inordinate amt of doing" as "x -- impossible" is a category error.
mircea_popescu: for instance earlioer -- i was enjoying a bowl of delicious soup made yesterday. kitten slings by, pours herself a bowl too. then she discovers -- a dead beetle in there. it's beetle season, they're crazy. under pemra lights there's an inch thick beetle soil.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-19 03:54 asciilifeform: (iirc we had a thread where i described how corporate ameritards, if given a problem like phuctor, would happily soak up a few $mil and megawatt of iron)
mircea_popescu: this isn't a judgement of value. it's just a description aite ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 20:01 asciilifeform: observe, the problem dun exist if you already have your own pyongyang and can happily put a megawatt station there and invite whoever objects, to pound sand up his arse
mircea_popescu: the cognitive articulation of the complaint is thus : 1. i understand deeply the trees of implications of a few simple rules (ref http://trilema.com/2018/technology-and-governance/ ) ; 2. i apprehend a novel object and create a mental model for it ; 3. i discover perceptible reality does not play well with the product of 2 ; 4. i complain.
mircea_popescu: complaints universally happen in proportion to a certain mental structure.
mircea_popescu: from managerial experience this is very much not a factual point.
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't imagine anyone but alf could seriously contemplate the "fabrication difficulties". gimme a break, i can and have bought machining tools that'd have been worth "hal;f the empire" in 1935 for a pittance. they make complex shaped metal sheets, and are cheap as fuck
trinque: nah, this thing has a rear prop
trinque: the linked item uses a glorified car engine; these... are available
trinque: if any of them had the sense to stop at the scale model and make that a drone instead, there you go.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-24 17:29 mircea_popescu: instead of you having to contend with 5mn other idiots trying to live in the same state ; you have to contend with only 50k. as a result, all real estate available consists of plots in excess of 50 acres, which include a creek, and forest. goes for the same price as you pay now, but it is what it is.
mircea_popescu: phf, is there a lot of romanesque, scifi etcetera work missing from your blog ?
asciilifeform: 'the pack ice around our misfortunate vessel presses in, the hull strums like a banjo, lately in a quite martial tone'
phf: "month 6 in this godless, accursed land. last night as the fever broke the captain died, since the chaplain died a month ago, the men had to hold service, however sparse it was"
phf: no, a lot more generous. representatives of superior civilization land en force anticipating deservedly easy pickings, most of men die from conditions
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818028 << a different outcome would've been historically appropriate ☝︎
asciilifeform: well 'dubious' is a bit soft; there was no deathray
asciilifeform: ( recall mao's, when asked 'was french rev a good idea' 'too soon to say' ) ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways, it is a draft.
mircea_popescu: other than this, "infinite" is not required. just a large enough factor, but 9 digits are far from "infinity"
mircea_popescu: it is not. consider -- i can (even thouigh ben_vulpes apparently can't) spin up endless instances of whatever boxen, notwithstanding "such a thing as the self-packing os was posed by neumann and stays where it was posed" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: there's a very sharp chance in 1980, which is why "the 80s".
mircea_popescu: robotization is a fact ; modern factories don't need workers ; and the robots are not made by fucking hand, no.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-26 06:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: have to understand, jet fighter is not really a complete machine. it is a tentacle of the larger industrial slave empire which produced and employed it. much like your finger cannot function for long or very usefully unless attached to the rest of you << so very aptly put.
asciilifeform: sometimes i wonder whether mircea_popescu is posting from a far alt-fyootoor where software actually works, where robots actually maintain selves, rather than being the end product of 500 people working around the clock, as per http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-26#935358 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: peon hands haven't seen a stitch of honest work in decades.
mircea_popescu: they're all in "government" offices going "Gimme" in a chorus. what fucking "hands" ?
mircea_popescu: the trashing the orclands get at our hands every fucking time we deign to rape them is not enough model of how this'd go ? joe from two states down will just send you some free molybdenum because fuck those orcs, and besides, you gave him a painting last year
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would you even need a price, you're friends.
asciilifeform: i dun have a molybdenum mine in house. or the rest, etc
mircea_popescu: you can stamp a plane every 40min BY YOURSELF in your house
asciilifeform: and to stamp out a plane erry 40 min
mircea_popescu: once a week or when you feel like, you don your hunt gear and go out shoot a dear phasant whatever.
mircea_popescu: instead of you having to contend with 5mn other idiots trying to live in the same state ; you have to contend with only 50k. as a result, all real estate available consists of plots in excess of 50 acres, which include a creek, and forest. goes for the same price as you pay now, but it is what it is. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: and a cuppa tea
mircea_popescu: understand, such a thing as teenage female suicide is not known in classical works. it only appears once the need for the pressure to perform appears, at high enough tech densities.
asciilifeform: conceivably this is a 'sufficiently smart compiler'(tm)(r) item.
mircea_popescu: when's the last time a bearer of us passport confronted a "be this tall or die" dilemma ?
mircea_popescu: but populace eminently is not the criteria, which is why the "totally not a dating site" "community" of fetlife can't stand up to... me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you are sitting there seriously proposing to me that a man-and-his-bushels uranium mining op is more productive than a mechanized item ?
mircea_popescu: he didn't live in a world where this was possible. but by 1980 -- eminently doable.
mircea_popescu: the ~punishment~ for ~failure~ to perform exceptionally well would have been a one way ticket to jeansland.
asciilifeform: i usually picture 'whisperers' as , graphtheoretically, a noncomplete clique
mircea_popescu: lose 90% of the population over a five year plan.
mircea_popescu: either of which is a perfectly acceptable solution, but one of which MUST always be deployed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, this understanding nevertheless does NOT relieve the soviet brass from having had to and having failed to either a) produce something alternatative for them to sing or b) shoot them all, a la maduro.
mircea_popescu: anyway. so the rate that'd have allowed soviet industry a positive epsilon return on capital goods was cca 10-20:1 in 1992 (depending how and what you sort) and the "tourist rate" was 60:1. bingo.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu had an old piece about the mechanics of dope 'pushing' . where 'pusher' ~creates~, rather than satisfies (as per classical economic model a merchant might) appetites
mircea_popescu: should you do that, you'll have a directly addressable measure of wrecking : the Ps will push the TR above the level where I can finance its import needs out of the receipts for its exports.
mircea_popescu: now, the needs of I are relatively fixed ; the "needs" of P vary. should P decide that it only wants import goods, you may be tempted to create a "tourist" rate for the foreign currency
mircea_popescu: suppose you have the following elements : I[ndustry], producing goods whichg can be exported and needing materials and equipment to be imported ; and P[opulace], expecting to be paid a living wage (anyone's pretense to the contrary are idle, all the advanced socialist peons want or ever wanted was "cash for being here", that'\s why socialist states even exist or ever existed, to provide that, from napoleonic france onward) an
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry. i mean, ~devaluation~ is always a camp phenomenoin.
mircea_popescu: can be, yes. but in any case -- there's no such thing as blackface devaluation. blackface is ALWAYS a camp phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: this is the deep issue uniting "rock and roll in the soviet union" with "malinche, lover of hernan cortes" : without a ~well connected local~ to spit on the local items, there can not be a serious devaluation of them.
mircea_popescu: moreover, currency collapse is always driven by naggum's idiots ("in order to be in a position where one must either strike or die, one must have put themselves into such a position, for instance by expecting to buy a lot of things they cou;dn't make"). the camp/blackface duality ( http://trilema.com/2017/pronouncements-on-camp/#selection-161.66-161.165 ) is very much apropos : without a "nouveau riche" class, ie, without a b
mircea_popescu: rather, it's a symptom of rarity. the currency function of a good depends on some contextual properties ; if there's few enough dollars in the country, the dollar bill is less money and more... artwork, say. becomes a kind of stamp.
asciilifeform: the latter sounds like symptom of 'nope, not a market, but some d00d pushing it'
mircea_popescu: (anyway, for documentary lulz : once the russkis introduced a vague approximation of an interbank currency market in 1991, the volumes traded were in the 10mn range. this is ALL THE DOLLARS IN THE COUNTRY. think.)
asciilifeform: holy FUCK they turned 'rokotov & fainberg' into... a jeans brand in usa
mircea_popescu: (and yes it was a crime to own bitcoins for soviet citizek.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, but yes, the principal reason ru had a relatively easy time in the 80s (unlike, say, 2015s argentina) is because VERY LITTLE dollars in private hands.
asciilifeform: ( internal mechanics of ruble is a tall bag of lulz about which not errything even today is known. but there were several ~independently-circulating subspecies . one of which technically existed until even 2010 or so ! )
mircea_popescu: they had a comparatively easier time, seeing how they had much better control on trade.
mircea_popescu: rather, a "i don't know how to write sales copy" thing.
asciilifeform: rright, the abstraction where money is a scalar and the operations commute, associate, and transpose, is a peacetime thing
mircea_popescu: it's always going to be a purely aribtrary market created by authority fiart, whether it's "write this string on your tits" or "tell me the string yulyiana has written on her tiots"
mircea_popescu: just so a chunk of rubles bought nothinmg, but if broken into small eno9ugh chunks it bought you say state secrets.
asciilifeform can't give a decently accurate answer, wasn't there
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, shootings outside of slums is a little like shittings outside of bathroom.
asciilifeform: seems like there was a specific target, tho, rather than 'embassy'
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> mod6: Got crackling in the lungs or just a very wet nose? << got the throat tickle and the coughing is starting.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-24#1818018 << i'm quite certain that they will have a show trial or two for 'putin's wreckers' who 'manipulated the price upward' ☝︎☟︎