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mircea_popescu: the collecting of defectors,
as a perceived phenomena, is imo best explained by the internal duality of the very defectors in question, fighting with their own demons.
mircea_popescu: look - the blunders of usg post taliban beheading in 2001 are not more meaningful nor worthy of investigation in the direct sense than the movement of a salted snail. so i don't admit that whatever post 2001 example of behaviour or anecdotal poit of evidence may be used
as part of a larger construction of ideas.
mircea_popescu: i recall now, the supposed.... whatever the fuck it was, bizarro clinton thing with iran. almost exactly the same quality of secret service work
as the "saddam has wmds" thing.
mircea_popescu: no, looky. if the case is that the knowledge vessel was a jwz, which is to say all juice no politics, then the truthful rendition of the situation is, that the knowledge in question was removed from its unstable situation, to a more sensible one. otherwise, if the vessel in question is a balanced construction, the attempts to "remove" run into the age old "nsa can't hold bitcoin and stay nsa" issue
as discussed in the logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to make that obscurity clearer : sentence structure is agent - verb - object - 2nd object. agent denies to x y. the agent = the INDIVIDUAL
as a "us item", aspirationally ; the verb = denied ; the object = himself. "the "su item"
as a projection of his own" is a third party, 2nd object.
shinohai: Get ready for chimpout
as Officer Edward Nero din do nuffin'
mircea_popescu: ie, the INDIVIDUAL
as a "us item", aspirationally ; denied the "su item"
as a projection of his own, himself.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there is no such thing
as "worth" and "value" like you keep advancing them. there's only meaning.
BingoBoingo: In other news the popular press is referring to the company that invented the LED
as a "seeds" company. Not even a chemical company anymore. Just a Burpee catalog with higher profit margins.
mircea_popescu: ested pressed shitboard nightstand. But indifferent to all these points, they play a role to support a theory : the theory that here too, in the assghetto of shit "we got fine stuff", and a John who, even if only four letters long, is still quite
as great
as any Mircea come from afar.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform recall the thread about the ICBC that's about
as large
as the sum total of us banks yet trades in ny on the pink sheets ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: Framedragger "modern democracy", that's what it is. a collective of wankers posturing
as people.
mircea_popescu: and we proceed to discover the wonders of the web! google produces a bevy of "ocr services".
as follows : newocr.com "Error! Text can not be recognized." ; ocr.space (best!!!) "Error: All images / PDF pages gave error. None of the image / page was successfully converted. Please check the errors in result area." and in that "page area", "****** Result for Image/Page 1 ****** Error:"
mircea_popescu: shinohai not so much a necessity
as an utility i think.
mircea_popescu: hopefully they eventually learn this of words,
as the expression goes.
mircea_popescu: downloadable
as THAT FORMAT with explanation wtf it is, even more useful.
mircea_popescu: with the difference that we were looking for storage/hosting space
as well, so might
as well make it a p2p abstract republican implementation of aws.
mircea_popescu: and if push comes to shove, we might
as well use the method described in the original census - ie, write a proper virus for it.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger you can also tell them that we're in the process of probing the internet for sever ssh key to break them via phuctor, and
as this is a tmsr problem they can get phucked - it will get done over their dead bodies.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-19 15:03 mircea_popescu:
as the maximal leverage avaialble to the individual increases, the % of things crawling out of cunts (which, recall, run perl) that may ever individuate decreases.
Framedragger: "trinque: Framedragger: if you get tired of aws, there's this cheap-
as-shit DC called Joe's Datacenter I've been using" << sooo :) do you know by any chance if *they* are behind any stupid gear which may filter out mass scans?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how about we add a credits page, move bernstein there, also add phf for keybase spidering, jurov for github spidering, others
as may be ? also theory prolly should be rewritten
a111: Logged on 2016-05-21 18:53 trinque: Framedragger: if you get tired of aws, there's this cheap-
as-shit DC called Joe's Datacenter I've been using
mircea_popescu: but outside of catastrophe, socialism fares
as well
as wheat. birch forest is the stable solution, not fucking wheat field.
mircea_popescu: so to come full circle : the items of interest in (the otherwise very on point) question "how cheap energy before it is scania herring" are cheap and herring ; not energy - that is always
as cheaper
as it always is, slightly more expensive
as newton's death approaches.
trinque: homeboy over there has even hooked me up with free KVM access
as a favor
trinque: Framedragger: if you get tired of aws, there's this cheap-
as-shit DC called Joe's Datacenter I've been using
☟︎ mircea_popescu: raud throughout - really, unsociable species are doomed to decay ? if only we decayed
as much
as the scorpions did in their lengthy existence. they've stayed viable apex predators in their niche for longer than humans likely will.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the general - whenever ideologue makes presuposition
as to what humans are, or do, or will be or will do, he's therefore and by that an etatist.
mircea_popescu: well im no kropotkin specialist myself, but i'm unaware of him putting war
as a legitimate human endeavour.
mircea_popescu: kropotkin's necessary state is imported
as this cvasi-mystical "all men must x y z and will so!"
mircea_popescu: (the "peace movement"/"modern democracy" flavour puts the political one first, and is the more fashionable today. communism puts the economical first,
as per ziggler & co. used to be most fashionable)
mircea_popescu: this is like "it was way easier to do astronomy in 2016 bc, not nearly
as much atmospheric pollution" "nor did anyone have any glass" "fu, i had glass!"
Framedragger: didyouknow, someone wrote a graphing library which mimicks xkcd graph style. iirc it's actually quite nice, insofar
as hipster things can be nice. shitlikethat...
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform , there's not even
as many computers
as there are people and they're already beating us in go :D
mircea_popescu: the only problem is, i'd expect you will receive ~1/3 of the address space
as hits.
mircea_popescu: any program i ever cared about enough to bust open was meant for appreciation. such
as fucking civ ffs.
mircea_popescu: they always puzzled me, these inconsistent derps. jimbo wales thinks he's a "libertarian", and "objectivist". one that somehow thinks corporate spying is bad, but "the government should put
as many cameras up
as possible - they'd prevent crimes".
a111: Logged on 2016-05-20 21:56 mircea_popescu: then in the unwarranted assumption that mp actually needs the piddly 1k btc held for bitbet, they tried to use whatever loose assemblage of assets to force mp to recant de facto. which idem backfired spectacularly when mp not only failed to recant
as intended, but pissed with a large arch on the whole proposition, and cut out with hot irons anything that may even remotely resemble.
mircea_popescu: then in the unwarranted assumption that mp actually needs the piddly 1k btc held for bitbet, they tried to use whatever loose assemblage of assets to force mp to recant de facto. which idem backfired spectacularly when mp not only failed to recant
as intended, but pissed with a large arch on the whole proposition, and cut out with hot irons anything that may even remotely resemble.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: basically, it worked
as an unpaid effort to digitize books that's meanwhile run out of both books to digitize and wide-eyed excitable noobs to do the digitizing.
mircea_popescu: and what's worse, the "wiki" style is proven not to work. even something originally
as promising
as tvtropes has over the years decayed into this unfunny collection of tiresome goop.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it'd be interesting
as a wikipedia-conversion-to-sanity project, but it'd be predicated on the project ditching all the undesirables barnacled to it. and seeing that the whole thing is mostly barnacle by mass, i dun see it happening.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't kibbutz incubation properly render
as kibbutzation ?
Framedragger: but kk, it's clear it's not relevant to current effort
as current effort is about factorization of rsa keys
mircea_popescu: that;s a call up to you
as a putative eventual lord of teh republic neh ?
mircea_popescu: ok im well confused. so jurov : you have a thing that takes ssh keys, spits them out
as e,N,comment lines in a csv. that right ?
Framedragger: i suppose i should search logs for previous discussions? unless anyone wants to give a more particular summary? spider
as many keys from
as many hosts running ssh
as possible?
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the task is 1) create a spider that connects to all servers/routers/anything that takes a ssh connection, and asks for key. there's an example given in the logs coupla weeks ago that prolly can be taken verbatim and improved
as needed.
Framedragger: "also, anyone want to run a ssh server key spider ?" << heh, k, i'm up for this, might
as well be useful while i brood
☟︎ Framedragger: parliament, say, is often referred to by durnių laivas,
as well
as the whole country, its populace, etc; same with "kaimas" being used interchangeably with populace
Framedragger: most of local gals are fucking ugly
as fuck, yes indeed
mircea_popescu: there's nothing substantially wrong with freenode. they're a merchant of faeces infested water,
as good
as any other merchant of "water" in marakesh.
mircea_popescu: the idea in my head has always been that
as intelligent people try to catch up, they'll use the wiki
as their scratchpad
mircea_popescu: the experience of myspace should be informative in this sense. "network effect" is valuable for
as long
as the median view is that it's cool people there ; once that goes away, all turner's billions can't fix the suddenly un-critical network effect.
mircea_popescu: trilema is created
as a "general purpose for literate people", so it contains lots of mini-versions of otherwise more seriously studied topics.
mircea_popescu: and
as to the other thing : numbers per se are meaningless. if there's a million truck drivers in the world, and 999`990 use a truck that does 10 mpg and i have 10 people using a truck that does 12 mpg, guess who'll be selling and who'll be buying trucking companies in the not so distant future.
danielpbarron: git is what, social media masquerading
as some sort of programming thing, not unlike how wikipedia is social media masquerading
as an encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but even
as a very low effort thing you know, "everyone's on aws". and they all use the same fashionable shitstack. and there's... millions of them.
mircea_popescu: this means, a marathon, not a sprint ; and most things "people generally" count
as a marathon here are still a sprint
mircea_popescu: whole country exists entirely
as an exercise in subsidy.
mircea_popescu: point remains, the item is in the air for half an hour, during which it is a larger source than anything in the sky in about a third of the spectrum. it weighs a hundred fucking tons, and is about
as maneuvrable
as a dead whale.