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phf: as a spec to how a node within a wot graph is going to operate by default in relation to text
mircea_popescu: phf i don't think stallman, for all his posturing, was muich in the philosophy department. seriously, ima have a special right to use code ? tell you what - have the inalienable freedom to use weapons, in any manner i deem fit, such as against the us president, and to use the penis, and plates of pasta, and napkin scribblings and anything else.
phf: i'm not so much interested in "freedom" aspect of it, but as a way to construct a coherent position on tmsr computing
phf: well, i'm trying to see if this could use this as a glue to tie V and stan's laws of sane computing
asciilifeform: and for some reason i thought that the above was also the one where mircea_popescu had the bit re 'usg tries to claim the ability to delegate the right to use software, as the church claimed the right to delegate use of woman'
mircea_popescu: take 0 : "agent has agency". i'm not willing to reduce that to this, not just because http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-30#998185 but in general, as a matter of sovereignity. if your ethereum works in this way, there's no "criminal thief" blabla. ☝︎
phf: - The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
phf: - The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0).
mircea_popescu: phf i'm game for a full analysis of them if you care to state any. the problem broadly is that they're nonsense as-found.
mircea_popescu: phf it's aligned alright. which is how linus now has a "psychopatic sexual behaviours", as per http://qntra.net/2016/06/how-the-tor-project-pays-and-pays-cia-agents-from-their-usg-navy-coffers/#comment-62663
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: perhaps. but i think its as simple as "adding idiots to something good ruins it". usenet was similar...
mircea_popescu: as long as light shines on it, it moves around.
reydev: so, where are the web of trust ratings stored by the way... as in, who controls the database
asciilifeform: as evidence - obummer recently had the tax-exemption of a number of quite standard christian churches revoked, on account of their opposition to obummerism. beyond a little bit of bad press, nothing happened.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-30 12:51 mircea_popescu: i want you to research the legal status of a registered church in the us, as well as the practicalities of registering one. this is a serious project, and i expect 100s of hours spent reading up on it. gpgram me about it.
mircea_popescu: i want you to research the legal status of a registered church in the us, as well as the practicalities of registering one. this is a serious project, and i expect 100s of hours spent reading up on it. gpgram me about it. ☟︎
phf: "As a not-completely-cynical participant in a democratic society and a half-assed amateur philosopher, I’m about as turned off by Yarvin as I could be."
asciilifeform: most folks dun notice , given as it exits
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492974 << that's definitely a consideration. worked for japan, germany, russia, us at least. maybe not italy and uk as much. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492974 << this is actually true, as impolitic as it may seem today. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 23:06 pete_dushenski: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y60FUvYArHQ/V3NKW6Xcf0I/AAAAAAAAmlA/7RzX6L0Tvt8tkXkTkpVK1tgizTxfWsrZgCLcB/s1600/IMG_1483.JPG << fdr = 'apostle of lasting peace for all mankind' ? lol how could he be remembered as anything other than a wrecker ? a bank robber ? stalin's villainous left hand ?
pete_dushenski: same fed bucks went into nyse as eth today
trinque: about time I updated ratings as well
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 15:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j
pete_dushenski: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y60FUvYArHQ/V3NKW6Xcf0I/AAAAAAAAmlA/7RzX6L0Tvt8tkXkTkpVK1tgizTxfWsrZgCLcB/s1600/IMG_1483.JPG << fdr = 'apostle of lasting peace for all mankind' ? lol how could he be remembered as anything other than a wrecker ? a bank robber ? stalin's villainous left hand ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or at least make it as relevant and interesting as ethernet frame is
trinque: phf: write something incomprehensible on a napkin and drop it in front of them as you leave
mircea_popescu: as long as you expect your profession to be what you say, you're necessarily an amateur, looking at magazine depictions of fthe profession in question
mircea_popescu: understanding this first point is what even allows the doctor to be A DOCTOR, ie, professional. as opposed to amateur, ie, quack.
thestringpuller: so isn't it a bit odd that Slock.It is refusing to release the security audit of The DAO? It really looks as if this is straight up MtGox 2.0. Pretty sure someone inside slock.it hacked the DAO and got a huge payoff.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: dead as disco << hey. hey. disco is kinda cool. daft punk's newest album is straight disco.
asciilifeform: so as i suspected, the front door is a sham
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think of it as the equivalent of mining for street power blockchain
asciilifeform: lafond's 'big mama' sure as fuck isn't buying 25k houses
mircea_popescu: and forget stuff like bauxite. you can't have as much as a truckload of books delivered by printer.
asciilifeform: not as if there is any shortage of these.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492644 << amusingly, judging by the comment count on the official announcement of the latest blunder ("for best results running our fix for the attack - please don't run it at all!"), even 1k total seems exaggerated. ethereum is dead as disco, will take at least 6 months to re-inflate. prolly more like 18. and i somehow doubt the "many years spanned by experience in experience" people have t ☝︎
mircea_popescu: aha. usually they start as http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491735 and advance from there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it is precisely as mircea_popescu describes.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j ☟︎
adlai told his #t, as an example of "truth" (Schemers Hate Him!), about ''shrink''
adlai told his shrink, as an example of "delusions", about ''meta-#ba''
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492583 << actually that happened in the 90s. all the jam tomorrow "web as a business" "venture capital" bs is exactly that - pivoting to try and survive the situation where consumers don't have money. pretend data is valuable and someone cares, pretend advertising is a business, get people to "invest" in this nonsense, it's a thing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: this was true even in the old days of gold coins. consider the case of two neighbouring countries, each with the same exact mirror arrangements, same pop count, same 100 tons of gold total, circulating as 100mn 1gram pieces.
trinque: as their ability to wield economic activity in the world declines, they grow smaller and less powerful
trinque: asciilifeform │ wtf does it mean to 'cost' the folks with the printing press something. << same as it cost whatever fake "elite" zimbabwe had, but more spectacularly?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492457 << so basically, as part of its ongoing cold war against insufficiently-pliable torvalds, the usg through its usg.twitter agency... repurposed what it claims to be "linus' account", ie, a voodoo doll they made for him. and this somehow is supposed to reflect on the man ? why, because we're all from the great nation of africa and ergo fucktarded in the brain ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 21:22 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492429 << the link is quite germane. even as late as 1800 romanian popular geography included "muscali cu coada", literally, moscow people had tails, like a cat.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492429 << the link is quite germane. even as late as 1800 romanian popular geography included "muscali cu coada", literally, moscow people had tails, like a cat. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 18:23 asciilifeform: lel 172?! mircea_popescu dressed as what, 17th c. hussar ?
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: If you are interested in a copy of the SKS keyset as of.. I want to say mid-2012 or so (the same one that was used as evidence that Craig Wright backdated his keys) I can stuff it into an archive for you.
asciilifeform: lel 172?! mircea_popescu dressed as what, 17th c. hussar ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lmao, as part of the democrats' "bitcoin is terrorist money" initiative ?
mircea_popescu: re raspil, is this a sort of ro "fumat" as in "s-a baut tot, s-a fumat tot"
phf: hmm i wonder what's english equivalent for распил. i think the word is as apropos, but just doesn't exist
a111: Logged on 2016-03-05 15:15 mircea_popescu: i suppose IF the july many-fork time comes and trb has nothing to offer then it might as well close.
mircea_popescu: no, as in the 11 or 95 yo that lets people in cinema hall
asciilifeform: usher, as in 'the house of ' ??!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 14:21 mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and it's not even fucking inborn, it's TRAINED! whip "lazy" girl that got to 20 and never achieved anything, she becomes in a year or two as self-driven and capable as you'd like it.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: as dan mocsny pointed out, 'creepy' is a word which largely means 'unattractive but not yet castrated'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this exists, obv. as much as a backup chain store is "dark node" after all.
asciilifeform: but this could be same as your example above
mircea_popescu: see something as "benign" as http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492039 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but, factually, there COULD be other reasons behind it. such as you know, hosts offer centos 7 prestamped on dedicated boxes, and so therefore, everyone runs centos 7
mats: as i understand it, the heterogeneity of clients in the wild naturally prefers the status quo ☟︎
mircea_popescu: use the fact that the machine as is, runnign whatever crap it runs, can still do millions of cycles a second, and can store billions and trillions of bytes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so long as it isn't in an equation, ever
asciilifeform: doing this correctly is ~same amount of work as manually ocring.
mircea_popescu: same principle as in machine translation, search engines, etc.
mircea_popescu: ocr is really a good fit for the markov chains as ai they do
asciilifeform: as what?
mircea_popescu: scans as bitmaps are ~in the situation of wine as stum.
asciilifeform: likewise i have a TB+ of scans here. these can exist as bitmap and naught else.
mircea_popescu: there's a serious problem with digital handling of text, as we have it atm.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491739 << same dingledine as officially represents nsa in tor ☝︎
asciilifeform: ons. Tor, and our broader freedom movement, are about communities, and about how we want to interact with each other. Let's handle this situation as an example of how we want to do it right.'
asciilifeform: as i said, this is kinda like that time i wanted to launch a satellite.
asciilifeform: so may as well go to it on own schedule.
asciilifeform: i am interested in subj mainly as an experimental test of some of my assumptions
mircea_popescu: conventionally, not ALWAYS to be treated as inferior, but that's more a flavour thing than anything else.
trinque: http://www.vice.com/read/actual-cuckolds-are-pissed-off-at-the-far-right-using-cuck-as-an-insult << teh infinilulz
BingoBoingo: Who knows? Anyways I think it identified as femayo
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo obese fuck "who's always been" never in his life felt so "ashamed" as when the life support got a little threatened ?
mircea_popescu: there is no "elephant" as a categorically different item
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491436 << i think there's some merit to this view. usg wasn't nearly as important as asciilifeform thinks it even in the 80s. ☝︎
asciilifeform: cleaned up, released (as pedigree chain from original tinyscheme)
shinohai: No but I see the benefits of having rpc commands use it, as I would love to see those commands separated from daemon
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 20:29 asciilifeform: from phf's link, commentz: '...it's nice that run down neighborhoods get a face lift, and I love craft beer and good food and coffee as much as the next guy (er, gal)-but what happened to the factories and the people that used to work in them? Their lives were largely destroyed by "free trade" and deindustrialization. We were once a producer society, and we were an economically and culturally healthier countr
asciilifeform: (whose launcher stood so tall that a man cannot be photographed in the same frame as it and still be visible)
asciilifeform: 'Instead of a murder-suicide carried out by John Sheridan, as the prosecutor concluded, Baden found that the CEO of Cooper Health System and his wife, a retired teacher, more likely were preyed upon by a man who killed them and then set a fire to destroy the evidence.'
asciilifeform: from phf's link, commentz: '...it's nice that run down neighborhoods get a face lift, and I love craft beer and good food and coffee as much as the next guy (er, gal)-but what happened to the factories and the people that used to work in them? Their lives were largely destroyed by "free trade" and deindustrialization. We were once a producer society, and we were an economically and culturally healthier country (and medically). Now we ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-27 18:32 mircea_popescu: (note the importance of the gay army in taking land from savages - today as 3000 years ago)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491361 << they work as lichens because they have (typically) no kidz, and don't give rat's arse about 'school district' ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491353 << you can't get so much as a doghouse for this price, even in bmore ☝︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2016/nobody-could-have-foreseen-their-using-a-woman-as-a-weapon/#comment-117840
mircea_popescu: (note the importance of the gay army in taking land from savages - today as 3000 years ago) ☟︎
deedbot: [Trilema] Nobody could have foreseen their using a woman as a weapon - http://trilema.com/2016/nobody-could-have-foreseen-their-using-a-woman-as-a-weapon/
phf: one guy (support) got it in his head that he's going to open a london branch of the company, he regularly arranges meetings with random uk business representatives to discuss along these lines. i heard he had some kind of meeting with richard branson as part of a small select group, etc. etc. mind you this has long been shot down by the owners as utterly insane and shut the fuck up. doesn't deter him.
phf: 1776 is the biggest one, they have daily talks on how to succeed as a woman ceo, workshops on how to learn ruby. probably a good subject for a blog post, a tour of 1776 on an average day..