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BingoBoingo: Aite, so what happened is the DC had the ip nullrouted to mitigate the attack.
asciilifeform: dulap , interestingly, unaffected, loox like it's just uy1 that is bogged
BingoBoingo: For me it is loading on one browser and not the other
mircea_popescu: sadly i can't load that.
BingoBoingo: I'm inclined to suggest to danielpbarron that when evangelizing on EFNet he use a different bouncer per the Pizarro good neighbor policy http://pizarroisp.net/pizarro-good-neighbor-policy/
BingoBoingo: Danielpbarron reported triggering one with his evangelism earlier today in #Pizarro: <danielpbarron> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/9TClz/?raw=true << another ddos ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is there a ddos ?
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell danielpbarron Was this latest DDoS another member of your fan club? ☟︎
asciilifeform: tho even in msdos pc clone era, already 1st 'swallows of spring' of this were visible, i still recall the time of 9000 incompatible sound cards etc
asciilifeform: i.e. where errybody can be assumed to have ~exactly same~ iron/os state.
asciilifeform: ditto ipnojeism etc. or for that matter the classical msdos envir was pretty close to this.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this kinda thing is how the various nintendos stay alive. consolist dun have to fiddle w/ gpu drivers etc, plugs in cartridge and gets his tetris in coupla milliseconds, 0 brain req'd
mircea_popescu: anyway, whatever, i'm not gonna debug shaders now. muh kb-wotn is broken and that's that.
asciilifeform: exactly from same school of thought as, e.g., 'aslr'
asciilifeform: and is an exactly typical 'mitigationism'
asciilifeform: ftr the item in q is more commonly known as 'stack canary'
a111: Logged on 2015-08-13 18:52 asciilifeform: mats: folks who begin from 'mitigation' position, cannot win by definition. they aren't even trying to. just to 'lose more slowly'
mircea_popescu: "stack protectors" are such a dumbass idea, i swear. who are they supposed to help ? the dumb user doesn't need the stack protected, he needs programs that don't smash it. and the smart user doesn't need fucking blindfolds on, he needs honest, informative and actionable errors. wtf "generic fault of a generic type"
mircea_popescu: at least now it's crashing properly, so i know what the fuck to do.
mircea_popescu: i suspect what's happening is that the gl is trying to do depth comparison on a texture with no depth, through a sampling shader. which...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which nvidia hairball was this box running -- the opensores one, or vendor's turd ?
mircea_popescu: there's a broken shader / nvidia card issue at work here, it's not what i thought at first, pure spuriousness.
mircea_popescu: aaand meanwhile, managing to bash a non-protected hand-compiled wine in the playonlinux hairball has exposed the underlying error : 002b:fixme:d3d_shader:print_glsl_info_log 0(24) : warning C7050: "vs_out[11]" might be used before being initialized
asciilifeform: essentially continuation of the 1980s, ad infinitum
mircea_popescu: i've not been following tbh
asciilifeform: ( cuz, elementarily, the dr-dos problem, good chunk of winblowz api aint documented -- in any sense, not even internally at microshit )
asciilifeform: was. turned into... this
mircea_popescu: wine per se is an attempt to implement the windows api in posix.
mircea_popescu: the problem being that by now it escaped any sort of human control.
mircea_popescu: ^ kidna curious if anyone can tell the fracture, whereby mp couldn't find what he wanted, lost interest.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/kiss-me-stupid/ << Trilema -- Kiss Me Stupid
mircea_popescu: which is the problem here -- there's nothing open source about this atrocity.
asciilifeform: ( gcc's -- is toggleable, but can't immediately recall just how )
mircea_popescu: if you compile it with -fstack-protector it fails in this manner (not just on this game, but many). if you compile it without, it works fine -- however the downstream tree (playonlinux etc) can't very well be coerced to use it.
asciilifeform: afaik gcc's 'stack protection' simply consists of extra turd in stack frame, whose presence then is confirmed before a subroutine ret's. microshit, incidentally, has a similar one. BUT iirc they use diff sizes and contents of the turd.
mircea_popescu: wine necessarily fucks around with the stack, as part of what it DOES.
asciilifeform: pretty curious re the stack smash thing tho
asciilifeform: imho subj is moar of a pit latrine than toilet, difficult to speak of 'clean'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh, there's no such thing as sorta-clean toilet.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 14:53 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it worked fine, i played heroes etc on it last time around (cca 2010 or so)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-20#1919005 << funnily enuff iirc '10 was the last time i tried to run game in 'wine'. never got audio to work. ( possibly on acct of never having poettering's audio libs, which i think it demands ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 10:16 mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ?
scriba: TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable (file "modules/archive.py", line 59, in archive_a_url)
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other side-benefits of image scouring trilema, http://trilema.com/2012/kolima-lolima-molima/
mircea_popescu: but it didn't work when ti didn't work because of the program in question using exotic weird, not because "we shoot selves in foot with buggy half-working gcc stack protection misfeature"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it worked fine, i played heroes etc on it last time around (cca 2010 or so) ☟︎
asciilifeform: torvalds's orig linux may have been a naturally occurring fungus, but i'm quite satisfied that 'wine' was written from day1 to prevent an actual working winblows substitute.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-16 14:36 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was a name for this, 'kitchen intellectuals'
asciilifeform: i.e. loyal servants of reich, exactly like the previous set of derps, or the 'rezistenta prin cultura'(tm)(r) idjits in ro ☝︎
asciilifeform: this gets even lulzier : there is , for instance, 'react os' , an attempt at a full opensores clone of win2k. but does it run even 1 game w/out crashing? guess. cuz 'ohnoez, we won't read leaked' etc, for 9000th time.
asciilifeform: i.e. exact preview of the 2013 'movie', where the nsa radiobugism docs leaked, and yet somehow still 'why wouldja want emshielded comp, paranoiac'. or heartbleed , and then somehow still 'openssl is standard, shuddup and Don't Write Own Crypto(tm)(r), terrorist'
asciilifeform: 'bbut they can't keep secret worth a shit, here's this .zip, shows you where are all the caltrops' 'shuddup, it neverhappened, why wouldja even mention such a thing, terrorist'
asciilifeform: the microshit leaks thing was asciilifeform's 1st adult life encounter with 'unhappenings'(tm)(r)
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 16:38 asciilifeform: 'modern linux komyooniti' is quite loyal organ of 'tame opposition', the occasional 20m of biodegradable monopoly money gifted to the occasional esr (who incidentally is begging for change to buy wheelchair, reportedly his legs went) goes long way
asciilifeform: entirely consistent, imho, with the picture given upthread re the whole orchestra. ☝︎
asciilifeform: or, for that matter, a full (afaik) win2k sores snapshot leaked in early 2000s. but did the 'wine' people win from it ? guess. 'ohnoez, mustn't read leaked sores, damns yer soul to hell' or what did the idjits say.
asciilifeform: ( even moar outrageously, the actual msdos 6.22 sores leaked ~fully 20 yrs ago~ and devs of 'dosbox' opensores emulator ~still~ afaik use dr-dos/pc-dos 'mostly' compatible, entirely uninformed from the leak... )
asciilifeform: problem as it is, is even older than linuxism -- recall in '90s, 'dr-dos', and how worked with only ~some~ msdos proggies but not others, given as people wrote 'for msdos', i.e. intimately wedded to the bugs and undocumented misfeatures etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'wine' breakage -- i'm not aware that the opensores 'wine' ever worked even with ancient gamez. the 'play on linux' thing iirc uses the commercial (formerly payware) version, which iirc includes actual libs copied wholesale from microshit. i.e. cocktail of oddball crapola and ~actual microshit~. so, unsurprised that it barfs.
asciilifeform pretty certain he'd remember if had seen such a thing as described above
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this was either in a very classic ro trilema ( that i did not eat yet ) or elsewhere entirely ( in-chan lnk )
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 10:16 mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which reference that could not find ?
mircea_popescu: and i can't write, because i need a reference i can no longer find.i have no fucking idea how to fix this sort of problem, nor do i truly speaking expect it'll ever get fixed. so w/e, i guess ima trash this thousand words and move on. except the specter of "there's an X% chance you won't be able to complete the article you wish to write" is sufficiently chilling to permanently discourage one from even starting.
mircea_popescu: ke in the windows days, entirely and utterly unfixable. there's no alternate paths anymore, you can't get wine x to work with pol y anymore than you can get a chunk of windows nt to drop-in replace some chunk of windows vista.
mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li ☟︎
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : you may build and even install a proper wine (ie, configured without the derp-ass gcc "stack protection", that evidently doesn't work) ; and it'll even work, system-wide. however that doesn't mean playonlinux won't stick to its sadder, older version. and of course you can't just force-copy symlinks over in its holy directory, because they're all brokenly relative, and gns resolution works as shown in that p
mircea_popescu: people who code, the intellectual legacy.
mircea_popescu: can't fucking find anything on this blog of mine, by now it's taking longer to amass the references than it takes to write a god damned article.
mircea_popescu: does anyone by any chance remember which the fuck trilema article contained this image of a chavy teenage chick, straddling a dude in a car, knees bent, jeans still on but lifted off her cunt, shoving the dude underneath's manhood into her cunt with the left hand ? ☟︎☟︎
diana_coman: I'm not sure the 2 groups are any different really
mircea_popescu: diana_coman there is that yeah
mircea_popescu: so i brought back screen to manage the term sessions for these idiots. THIS is the sense of progress : from 10.04 to 18.04, they lost terminal management, i'm back to screen. i didn't actually use it in 10.04
mircea_popescu: ow i'm riding scaled down text.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of terrible accessibility : they changed the taskbar structure from purely linear to a sorta broken tree, so that all terminals snap together into a single terminal icon (holy shit WHY, everyone's taskbar is 90% terms and that is THE ONLY REASON to even HAVE clickable taskbars) so now i have to do two clicks, one to bring up a derpy bubble and a second to bring up the wanted terminal, which blows btw because n
diana_coman: pretty much when they ask for flex, bison follows
mircea_popescu: or do you mean, "shipping broken" ? cuz sure, it is, but what the fuck did they put in those FOUR cds ? the gfx is shitty, the accessibility broken and the compiling dun werk.
diana_coman: it's quite typical though
a111: Logged on 2019-06-19 19:59 mircea_popescu: meanwhile continuing the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-19#1918697 nonsense : wine doesn't work worth a shit on the new ubuntu. it never worked splendidly, granted, but it was quite workable last i looked into this half decade ago. it degraded significantly. for instance, after a bunch of installing various, i'm left with a taskbar fulla dead icons. (well, in fairness they bring up a transparent exclamation point in a tria
a111: Logged on 2019-06-02 15:50 mircea_popescu: remarkable just how useless computers are these days. so first, i chugged in 2gb of ubuntu. the moment it came up it wanted to get a further 450mb of "updates". then it turns out ~every game out there has pretty much outsourced its distribution (and, i suspect, debugging, such as it is) to steam (with a minor gog presence as well). so you gotta install steam. that's only 50mb or so, but a third layer by now.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-09 13:05 mircea_popescu: b) install gcc. and then make. because it SHIPS WITHOUT THESE. and then of course discover the current versions don't match what the kernel was compiled with.
mircea_popescu: holy shit, they manage to include NOTHING (i also had to include a c compiler myself earlier. and fucking make.) in those 2GB of bloat that ARE ANTIUSEFUL!!! ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: so one, obviously, is stuck installing a proper wine on the system, because fuck me if i'm not getting off beginner island (VERY fucking annoying manifestation of the bug -- crashes you in the final battle, with that asswipe eric).
mircea_popescu: in other, ongoing lulz of the endless saga : "*** stack smashing detected ***: <unknown> terminated" << wine (as bundled with the shitty ubuntu in question, v 3.0-1) abuses "stack protection" to crash perfectly fine programs (in this case, king's bounty - warriors of the north).
mircea_popescu: kinda what all these are derived from, hardblown, method-acted comedy. it's a cinematic adaptation of a roadshow style of entertainment (much like the "high class production" fred astaire / frank sinatra etc were in try to steal broadway for the studios)
BingoBoingo: The question is, which year in the 90s did Pantsuit win
BingoBoingo: Watching Naked Gun 33 1/3, my how rauchy comedy fell between there and Retard Pie pocas años despues
mod6: Yikes, week is a long time.
BingoBoingo: But all of those were after 2006. Before that it was only the occasional hour or so during thunderstorms.
BingoBoingo: And two different winters with ~week outages
BingoBoingo: Then there was the one spring week after a wind storm.
BingoBoingo: I remember very recently back in the US the power was out for an extended period of time because it was summer and the line carrying power into town caught fire.
BingoBoingo: Not at all like back in the states where storms would turn into multi day blackouts
BingoBoingo: Not particularly, but the local news has to do the panic thing to make ad sales I guess.
mod6: Wasn't worth the long lines eh?
BingoBoingo: And apparently in Colonia (the place where cheese comes from) the river gunk turning over messed with their water treatment plant.
BingoBoingo: So, the only noticable impact of the "ciclono extratropical" that hit here is a bunch of gunk washed up on the beach.
BingoBoingo: In the local newses https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/justicia-permitio-a-narco-de-minas-cumplir-condena-en-su-casa--2019619161724
asciilifeform: literally the 1 lappy made since '07 or so, with ~square lcd.
asciilifeform: before going to this, will note -- interestingly, the 'huawei' has a... 3000x2000 .