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mircea_popescu: so, always go after the places where "nobody'd ever look because nothing could ever be found because nobody'd ever look". total snakecharm.
mircea_popescu: which is why this simple strategy is so effectual - magic tricks work by directing the chump's attention SPECIFICALLY because emulating reality is so damned expensive you can only economically do it in small installments. you'd better make damn sure that's where they're looking and ONLY where they're looking. nobody can fucking afford to give a coat of paint over EVERYTHING.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger "the lie", you know. which is why hanno boeck ( http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) et al went all in for the "nothing happened". derps are by and large conditioned to "think" that nothing happened because nothing happens because nothing can happen because nothing happened because...
mircea_popescu: this approach is to be continued systematically. much like a principal wanting to root out the crips from school is best advised to start with checking homework.
mircea_popescu: what few know/recall today is that when we started it, the agreement was "it's not going to find anything".
mircea_popescu: it's the correct approach ; what yielded phuctor also.
mircea_popescu: not a bad idea actually. guaranteed to de-"anonymise" at least a few
Framedragger: someone also tried spidering ssh keys from .onion hosts, and then matching them with ssh keys of ipv4 space; i want to re-try that, too
Framedragger: probably an easy grep; all text uncompressed ~1.6TB; will keep it mind for laters
Framedragger: ahh " get pgp keys out of the gwen[sic] / sr dump"
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 13:27 mircea_popescu: oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481481 << the 'error: invalid or non-wallet tx !' response to gettx is infuriating idiocy ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose in its own terms it makes sense, a sort of solipsistic revolt of the anal child. nevertheless... let jesus save them or whatever, we're busy.
asciilifeform: i think he may have ended up kakoized
mircea_popescu: well - it's what it is. there's a dedicated loafer community out there, adamant on "i shall not be useful". best filter them out asap.
mircea_popescu: exactly nothing, guy melted in the woodwork.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 13:26 mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform you gonna make a ticket set for phuctor ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481480 << thinking about it. speaking of: whatever happened to the sr keys thing ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: oh and mod6 - suppose i want to add the observation that really, the wallet functionality and the "caching transactions" functionality should be separated in bitcoin - there's no conceivable reason to store the latter in the former for instance. how would i go about adding this to the bitcoin tickets ? ask you ? do something myslef ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform you gonna make a ticket set for phuctor ? ☟︎
Framedragger: cycle may be complete then
mircea_popescu: stuff you don't feel like writing out in 1k words, interactive etc has a place. moreover, that place drives like a third or more of the longer pieces. it's a match made in heaven.
mircea_popescu: and fuck do i love this dual format omfg. how did people irc pre blogs ? how do people blog w/o irc ? i guess they use twitter... but shit, it doesn't compare.
shinohai: Everyone knows that.
Framedragger: smart watches (now with 9h of battery life!!1) are laptops t00!!
mircea_popescu: which, really, === laptops, for what "laptop" means today.
mircea_popescu: nah, the girls have stickers on their phones.
mircea_popescu: i suppose their respective gatherings are the sum total of such difference : less clothing, more sunshine and more perfume where the girlies gather. more armpit stains and bad shirts and neon lighting where the boys gather.
Framedragger: daddy's connections help with the arbitrary selection
mircea_popescu: for all the pretense, the difference between these demos is vanishingly small if at all present.
mircea_popescu: well, they're sorta like the girls watching tv hoping to one day grow up into oprah through the mediation of being rap video sluts. except they're boys, and they read reddit, and hope to one day "make a company that sells for billions".
Framedragger: but yeah, i meant entrepreneur not in the etymological/definitional sense, but in the "currently attached bundle of crappy connotations" sense
Framedragger: actually i'm sure there are some legit poets on LJ, heh.
mircea_popescu: eh linkedin is the entrepreneur world like livejournal is the poet world.
Framedragger: oh yeah already forgot about the password steal. lol. just fuck the entrepreneur world with a rake
mircea_popescu: a government recently installed, of course, through a push for "human rights" and "democracy", widely "embraced". ie, first destroy the state, then destroy the society, then it's time to walmart up.
mircea_popescu: the funny part being, of course, that nobody is pushing to "crack down on corruption" when it actually happens, ie, here. no, "cracking down on corruption" is Reich-speech for what happens in a recently conquered land, to destroy its local elite. that's what's meant when you say random noplace government harping about how they'll crack down on imaginary "corruption".
shinohai: LOL Microsoft buying LinkedIn ... will TOTALLY improve their security.
mircea_popescu: but if you want to know how the usg corrupt class siphons the public hreasury - look no further. that's the system, "acquisitions", government-mandated, like facebook buying some derpy app for $random_sum, and so on. "we gave you free money, now you give it back" goes the story.
Framedragger: (and you may still need to play egregious taxes if in US, even before you get to exercise them etc)
mircea_popescu: unlike whatever random thug that got killed dealing and started "riots", and who for no reason became "representative" of imaginary "social issues" - the story here, if deliberately blacked out, is nevertheless very representative. that schmuck stands, pars pro toto, for EVERYONE EVER in fiat lands.
Framedragger: yeah, "co-founders" are left with shares of shit class and shit amount thereof, it's a nice scam
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-07#1265178 << HAHAHA ok that is funny. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 12:55 punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, as various "open source" geniuses (ref http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-07#1265178 ) found out on own skin, of the "26bn, $randomfigure" of paper dollars, precious few turkey-dollars actually trickle down to the "owners". black or otherwise. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: PeterL not even sure that's possible - a question for trinque
mircea_popescu: ends however many billions to 3. victory.
mircea_popescu: the scam being 1. govt prints and hands money off to "pension funds" -> 2. pension funds "invest" in microsoft ; 3. chosen sons form "online business", feed it as per http://trilema.com/2014/askfm-laid-bare-or-whats-half-a-million-uniques-to-you/ (there's an entire scamola pyramid to create "numbers" for these "properties", scratched the surface of documenting it on trilema but really it's collossal). and then finally, 4. 2 s
PeterL: how to update to new key with deedbot? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: reprise of the "turner buys myspace for 1bn" thing.
Framedragger: apt commentary on this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11893190
mircea_popescu: (obviously, the hallucinated "black as non-white" she imagines has little to do with anything found in nature, but hey, sucks to be a black dude with a human sized penis.)
mircea_popescu: girl's desire to be black owned is not only perfectly understandable in that context, but rationally mandatory. what the fuck is she to do ?if she's got any life whatsoever left in her coils, what the everloving fuck is she to do, nurse eric ?
mircea_popescu: anyway : white fellow married a woman older than himself, impregnated her at the merry age of 30, and produced a useless shithead, which opted out just by the time "society" was done pumping half a mil in his sorry loser ass.
mircea_popescu: do you know it BingoBoingo ? the one describing a pimp with two fat women ; a guy with a hot chick fucking her in the bathroom ; and other things.
mircea_popescu: http://www.okemosschools.net/education/page/download.php?fileinfo=RXJpYy5wZGY6Ojovd3d3Ny9zY2hvb2xzL21pL29rZW1vcy9pbWFnZXMvZG9jbWdyLzg2NDdmaWxlNzA4MDMucGRm&sectiondetailid=160 <<->> some lafond article pointing out that if you see a man with girlfriend(s) he's black, whereas if he's white he's generally a junkie and if accompanied by a female her cuckold.
shinohai: Ah, she wants to be "Black owned". How cute.
mircea_popescu: (okemos high school, 2800 jolly road, meridian charter township, mi 48864)
Framedragger: so #botwar has the following chan rules : http://sysdef.de/botwar_channelrules.txt
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is as good a plan as it gets in the context.
phf: well, they've been buying up land around where they are with loans, and paying it off from donations and festivals which they write off as "religious ceremonies".
mircea_popescu: to fund their ops ?
mircea_popescu: that's what i thought but it dun parse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'shit hit the fan'
phf: shit hits the fan, preparedness crowd term for hypothetical future civilization break down
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
phf: asciilifeform: you were right, four quarters is a large shtf project, using hippie and music festivals to find their operations. i can see why orlol would like it
ben_vulpes: 2020 something something egalitarian treatment of UCI nodes
ben_vulpes: 20-something, "put wifi in the cardano!"
Framedragger: may even be possible to piggyback / re-use https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ; putting this for later reconsideration; off to sleep, later!
Framedragger: 'cause it's mad, i tell you
Framedragger should write some kind of simple thingie which takes (1) keyword and (2) timestamp pairs as intervals, and produces a kind of wiki page for all given keywords. (2) can be amended later as needed. so that there'd be a page for gossipd without much effort at all ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: prolly should also be pointed out that atm the design is yet the consistency of pudding.
asciilifeform: (pubkeys, in all known asymmetric systems, can be inferred from M bytes of traffic. so NO pubkey should ever transmit a burst of >=M.)
asciilifeform: but ephemeral keys are necessary because there is NO reason why usg should know which lord is speaking to which.
Framedragger: right, which allows for transitivity of one sort or another, i suppose. fair enough
asciilifeform: i did say 'traceable to'
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 00:39 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481339 << a correct gossipd node processed NOT ONE BYTE unless it is covered by a signature traceable to a known peer.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481381 << would the scheme of gossipd in your mind as it currently stands allow for signatures by a non-permanent gpg key (by something akin to ephemeral key)? identity (of communicating party) integrity would be within the decrypted contents; but not ascertainable by message header (here's gpg id 0xbabe) ☝︎
Framedragger: and that his implementation isn't fucked
Framedragger: not saying that it wouldn't be super easy to fuck it up via all sorts of baroque side channels and whatnot
Framedragger: DH exchange gets temporally split, so to speak
Framedragger: didn't think it was overcomplicated tbh, i mean, not this particular part anyway
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i understand it perfectly. but the baroque marlinspiked version is satanic and deliberately overcomplicated.
Framedragger: pfs is unclear but then who had it easy with worthwhile things anyway
Framedragger: i'll sketch mp's scheme on a whiteboard tomorrow or thereabouts, so i can say that i get the picture. makes sense overall, in terms of no chans as such, etc etc.
asciilifeform: any other behaviour - invitation to shitflood.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 00:13 mircea_popescu: not entirely clear what the benefit of ~signing~ said ephemeral keys is however
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481339 << a correct gossipd node processed NOT ONE BYTE unless it is covered by a signature traceable to a known peer. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 00:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, to understand each other : if M are messages signed by K[eys], then if on the basis of M2 you can prove that indeed K1 was used for M1 then your system is not pfs, and K aren't ephemeral.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481352 << ephemeral key is when only the participants can reconstruct the chain. ☝︎
Framedragger: (aha, "actual order" of messages is not one of the requirements; interesting; i suppose folks who maintain that breaking order integrity == breaking s3curity!! are kind of derpy anyway, in the sense that if you have something critical to communicate, you'll find other means to derive integrity, etc.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, i don't think ips were ever seriously considered as identity.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-16 13:52 mircea_popescu: actually, let me go into detail, why the hell not. ("because derps stalk the logs for examples of how x doesn't understand y" "and ?" "myeah.")
mircea_popescu: Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-16#1467075 one of the more recent installments. ☝︎
Framedragger: (i hope you lost any hope in ip address in packet as a form of identity/proof/whatnot, though!)
Framedragger: both, i suppose, or either would be interesting. gossipd probably provides decent constraints and framework for thought, so might as well stick to that
Framedragger: ..getting to it. lots of stupid jokes to sift through. but thanks, will continue
mircea_popescu: you ever got to read the many discussions re gossipd in log ? this part is there.