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interviewee: so, as far as this front goes
mircea_popescu: sure, i don't mean "title to sue" i mean title as in property
mircea_popescu: anyway. there is no such thing as "actual rights" here, nor even as much as title. nobody has title to any cryptocurrency.
interviewee: ok, perhaps i am as naive as shinohai suggests, but where's the claim against MIT?
mircea_popescu: ~anyone holding as much as a farthing "worth" of ethereum presently has overhead the possible claim here discussed, with its treble damages and whatnot.
shinohai: i was just curious as to the legal standing of the dao from US perspective
interviewee: whcih of course was ambigiuous as to its ownership for a while- so it was unclear what "disclaimers" actually came from "TheDao"
interviewee: you have the comments in the actual .sol files as to warranties and incorp. of the gnu license
interviewee: as to your q, TheDao was evidently premised as code = law
mircea_popescu: you're dicking around on tardstalk etc anyway, might as fucking well sit down and write something that'll be useful later.
mircea_popescu: would have worked better as blog post, but gl.
mircea_popescu: i thought he didn't like it ; worked about as well as any os he ever used, any software package ; any box of breakfast cereal etc.
mircea_popescu: point in case : http://67.media.tumblr.com/6b3c86cf8995a714a1271f8a05d0f330/tumblr_nldoi2Hklx1uox454o1_500.gif << she, and ANY OTHER ONE LIKE HER, could blather endlessly about nonsense, just as well quality wise as ANY us female professor of nonsense. nevertheless, NO us female professor of nonsense could do that scene. maybe if she can afford to pay me a million to train her for eighteen weeks. but even then it's dubious.
asciilifeform: experimental subjects of various monitoring devices, or in which they view advertisements in their houses, or agree to consume only certain products, or to abide by brand loyalties. Additionally, these homes may be provided with certain safety features, such as a magnetic lock 490 that prevents occupants from leaving the home without meeting certain conditions, such as safety and sobriety.'
asciilifeform: re 'pay as you go', the favoured variant appears to be http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-25#1285945 - flavoured. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can't wait for pay-as-you-go water and sewer.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i bought "industria argentina" male underwear which, while spoiling the same amount of cotton as a normal pair ; nevertheless HAS NO RUBBER BAND.
mircea_popescu: but he ISNT one. he's an orc masquerading as one, and at the first touch the masquerade crumbles.
mircea_popescu: me finds http://www.infobae.com/2015/12/05/1774628-el-gran-mito-que-la-argentina-es-un-pais-rico/ where his quote re plowing fly is given as "unknown author", writes to the bulat derp to point out the author's known, since ~1850 or so. guess what happens next ?
asciilifeform: sci.crypt crackpots were every bit as entertaining as the sci.physics ones
mircea_popescu: no such thing as a stale scam.
asciilifeform: (which in turn is interesting because ~is it on the same bus as other periphs~)
mircea_popescu: apparently they take what you say as an inverses signal.
thestringpuller: I told someone this mornign as they walked in "Do not huff any ether no matter how compelling" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508507 << the problem with americans, by which we denote obscure people from the colonies with no history or identity of their own, is that if something becomes desirable they'll just copy it. "as best they can", "with locally sourced items". hence the mormon shredding of the hebrew texts and jordan pearson. ☝︎
deedbot: [Qntra] Coinbase Embraces Ether As Venture Continues Running On Fumes - http://qntra.net/2016/07/coinbase-embraces-ether-as-venture-continues-running-on-fumes/
mircea_popescu: anyway - from what i see old cli zip does take the (correct sized, 32kb) file and spit it out as a single file of binary crap, instead of as a directory of 3 files of which one a html and two jpgs
mircea_popescu: basically looks like some versions of zip fuck up the directory structure, extract it as a flat file.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i tend to collect copies, yes. but this is not a systematic thing, and won't be for so long as it has to be manually cranked.
asciilifeform: i can see this pov, i might not want crocodiles around, but there are still folks who can end up in a crock and i will not shed tear for them, even as we shoot the crock
mircea_popescu: this is what it means to be enemy - it doesn't get as much license as to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508296 ☝︎
asciilifeform: just as he, earlier, devoured others
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 21:17 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508246 << lulzy: 'The deadlock between competing corners of the Bitcoin community when it comes to hard forking, in contrast, spells doom for the currency, according to Tual. “As long as that’s true, Bitcoin will never evolve, and it will die, because what doesn't evolve dies.”' << 'we've failed to stick in the proboscis and so let's declare it dead, neverhappened'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508255 << gold: 'Our recent generation of Makers, hackers, and entrepreneurs have developed under the shadow of Section 1201... Our children deserve better. I can no longer stand by as a passive witness to this situation. I was born into a 1201-free world, and our future generations deserve that same freedom of thought and expression. I am but one instrument in a large orchestra performing the symph ☝︎
danielpbarron: i'd also like to know, but if i had to guess, it looks like a cave that is located under a body of water that is draining into it from above, as seen from within the cave
asciilifeform: run moar warez-as-get-rich ops, keep moar fiatola bank accounts filled thereby
asciilifeform: 'Finally, and crucially, the investigators issued a warrant directed at the Canadian webhost of KickassTorrents. This was one of the biggest scores as it provided them with full copies of KAT’s hard drives, including the email server. “I observed […] that they were all running the same Linux Gentoo operating system, and that they contained files with user information, SSH access logs, and other information, ' << use moar nato h
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1508246 << lulzy: 'The deadlock between competing corners of the Bitcoin community when it comes to hard forking, in contrast, spells doom for the currency, according to Tual. “As long as that’s true, Bitcoin will never evolve, and it will die, because what doesn't evolve dies.”' << 'we've failed to stick in the proboscis and so let's declare it dead, neverhappened' ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu is smoking the "fuck you, you have no rights, engineer is not a person" blend, of the same exact make as seen in debate over "oh but proper V hurts mah self-importance of codrwriter"
asciilifeform: but there is such a thing as antifuse.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as replacement policy.
asciilifeform: there is such a thing as % yield.
asciilifeform: problem is that , as with nearly every aspect of vlsi, the described function is ~promise~ not protocol.
asciilifeform: at any rate, and as i wrote long ago, imho soldered-in 'bugs' are quite obsolete - there is built-in hole in ~everything made for eons now.
mircea_popescu: yes. deliberately. this is as much an "exploit" as stealing electricity from the pole is "fighting the man".
asciilifeform: 'At approximately 3:14 p.m., Deutsche Bank transmitted to RBS Coutts a SWIFT payment order requesting that $700 million be credited to an account at RBS Coutts. The SWIFT message did not identify the owner of the RBS Coutts account, but the account number listed on the SWIFT as the recipient of the $700 million wire transfer was the number of the Good Star Account.'
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 15:37 mircea_popescu: phf most people who spent as much as i have with computers a) wear glasses b) have various complicated nerve and tendon damage, esp wrist, elbow etc.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-21#1507904 << understand, ALL of the original driver electronics were removed, controller is mine, any key can be whatever i like. i have the middle of the arrows as a meta. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but in fairness, i would say i rely on a very specific sort of literacy. i have people do things for me! you lot, all of you, are the modern equivalent of a barony that is neverthelss being run by the ox-baron personally, by hand. because in the future we have this strange species of ox-man that "can". of sorts, really, only 80% of the can, but hey, who cares about broken fingers and other appednages as a result. HEAR THE OXM
mircea_popescu: phf most people who spent as much as i have with computers a) wear glasses b) have various complicated nerve and tendon damage, esp wrist, elbow etc. ☟︎
asciilifeform: if anyone wants one of these things, you can wait a decade for it to show up on 'ebay' or the like, as i did, or you can get the modern reproduction, that someone actually makes, but be aware that it is a castrato (66 key) thing.
mircea_popescu: ler on hat so are like american cartoon guy dexter boy genius. maybe you put sex dildo on bottom to fuck wife with, as explains oglaf here : http://oglaf.com/obituator/
mircea_popescu: "clicked traffic" as the thing is called in the [porn] biz being about 500k to the bitcoin last i looked, sometime last year. meaning the entire yearly value of the global "online advertising" market is equivalent to a few bitcoin blocks, meaning in turn that a choice to occupy yourself with that thing is equivalent to a deliberate choice not to matter. nttawwt.
mircea_popescu: there's actually a lot of valuable data re eeuropean "advertising market" there as a result of me running a large intel project on the topic at the time.
ben_vulpes: galls me on some level to think about a hash, which i concieve of as an integer, as a byte array or a set of chars.
ben_vulpes: CHAR[] didn't make much sense to me, because a hash isn't instrinsically a set of characters, except insofar as a byte array can be seen as a set of characters, but which characters...
ben_vulpes: phf: i know, i meant 'integer' in the abstract, with numeric as the concrete implementation that i'd use.
ben_vulpes: "documentation. you know. as what readthedocs is generated from."
mircea_popescu: maybe trump comes out as a transsexual.
mircea_popescu: maybe gets better as winter comes.
phf: ben_vulpes: well, binary types are unrelated to the issue though. binary types you declare your struct, you still want to decide yourself what goes in the struct. treating hashes as numbers makes sense if you're going full lisp, i.e. you're actually going to do math with those numbers (which is at the end of the day their whole purpose), unless it's not actually a hash but a bit mask or a xor'd something or other
phf: ben_vulpes: if you're talking lisp, there's no reason not to store those values as numbers
ben_vulpes: that's not nearly southern women as it is "women who live in suburbia in the south of usgistan"
mircea_popescu: right, right. merkle TREE as its own data type.
mircea_popescu: merkle root as its own data type
ben_vulpes: what, "hash" as its own data type?
ben_vulpes: tooootally tangentially and not at all related to anything else, would there be any reason to store merkleroots, block/txn hashes as integers vs byte arrays?
pete_dushenski: it just... isn't the culture here. pickings are slim as shit.
mircea_popescu: and no, it's not autism, they're hatching the cornel derp as "expert" for teh future.
trinque: teh parallel with "look at the data!!" from earlier vs "UI" as styled high-level API
mircea_popescu: it's the fundamental reason "correspondence" even exists as a thing in science.
mircea_popescu: what i said was that a) ultimately all data is in point of fact data, and unless you're fucking around you will wish to look at the data ; b) that "Saving time" is only useful to people in a hurry ; and people thinking are seldomly in a hurry. rather than play with a desk weight while i try to comprehend x item, i might as well longhand its structure.
asciilifeform: if you heat the thing to 5000K and they come out, they will be same as any other proton.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm using that as a thinking support. which i usually am.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and yes but it drives stupidity such as chomsky's rank nonsense about "what is gramatical". if you recall that recently linked essay.
mircea_popescu: how do i humorously say "male whore" as in, "curv", which is the never-seen but PERFECTLY GRAMMATICAL masculine of curva, whore ?
mircea_popescu: trinque the thing is that you're perfectly allowed to use your own, consistent definitions, even if they may contradict "the common sense" ; provided that a) they are consistent ~and stable enough so as not to change by context~ and b) you're capable of expliciting them on request and this will not contradict previous construction. ie - you may have any graph you wish (chiefly because anyone does anyway, "community consensus"
trinque: there's a pragmatic distinction here between "this is a statement of holy truth" and "this shovel is currently doubling as guillotine in a pinch"
mircea_popescu: well no, but your assumption that you making a general statement will be taken as made rather than modified ad-hoc is not only unwarranted, but actually contrary to your declared preference.
asciilifeform: reversing is just as much a functional niche as 'music play'
mircea_popescu: for as long as this "music library" thing was a thing, winamp was the thing for it.
asciilifeform: just as you cannot have a theatre that is also a dairy farm
asciilifeform: its continuation as whatever going concern is incompatible with their presence
phf: perhaps they don't see it as an existential threat
asciilifeform: as in, it NEVER had the slightest legitimate reason to exist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh what do i care what they do. the idea here is "o look, a scamcoin nobody holds managed to hardfork. this is about as relevant to bitcoin as guy soiling his pants and then washing them in the sink. I AM ROVER GER AND I THINK ITS TIME FOR BITCOIN TO! "
thestringpuller: nope. it was all staged to act as fud to get Bitcoin to hardfork while creating FED-chain.
asciilifeform: because i sure as fuck ain't going ~looking~ for it
asciilifeform: may as well link
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: again, if you ~mention~ a thing that is happening solely on reddit, it is just the same as linking
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i don't like posting reddit links as not to infect the channel
asciilifeform: just as, close your eyes and describe your house to a stranger
asciilifeform: chemistry-in-words makes about the same amount of sense as cad in words.
asciilifeform: (incidentally does mircea_popescu do his organic chem without filthy heathen 2d drawings ? as words ? )
mircea_popescu: just as long as i can use it, i'm happy.
mircea_popescu: fuck that stupid ass google auto-search as you type idiocty
mircea_popescu: i want to have alphabetic notation. such as : graph-this-so-and-so,1,1,4,this.csv
asciilifeform: 'Fri, 5 Feb 88... The astonishing baroqueness of X is the greatest threat to the general sucess of UNIX to have come along since System V hit the streets. If you try to give an X system to a real human being, not a computer hacker masquerading as a normal person, they will croak. If X doesn't instantly burn out their eyes and brain, causing them to throw their UNIX box out the nearest high window, it will drive them straight into the
a111: Logged on 2016-07-20 12:23 mircea_popescu: every computer (well, except for windows and apple i guess ? but they're not computers) has a repl built in as some sort of bash. in most cases you also have both perl and python out of the box. how could it possibly be faster to first upload a chunk of data to some webserver somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: every computer (well, except for windows and apple i guess ? but they're not computers) has a repl built in as some sort of bash. in most cases you also have both perl and python out of the box. how could it possibly be faster to first upload a chunk of data to some webserver somewhere ? ☟︎