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asciilifeform: ( even tho still built w/ same intel cpu )
asciilifeform: trinque: i used not long ago a recent huawei lappy. same irons as top-of-line crapple, 1/3 the cost, and 10x less fan whine.
trinque: this is good for the death of IP
trinque: epic, literally going to fasttrack "IP theft" ~from~ the chinese. Huehue Corp must have good shit. ☟︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/06/rubio-files-amendment-to-end-us-patent-recourse-for-firms-on-usg-badlists/ << Qntra -- Rubio Files Amendment To End US Patent Recourse For Firms On USG Badlists
BingoBoingo: Note the "paro general de 24 horas" is scheduled to cover a full day's hangover after today's Uruguay-Chile futbol appointment
BingoBoingo: So with the Party Internal elections coming up Sunday, guess what totally not a campaign event the local Unions are holding tomorrow... A Work Stoppage!
asciilifeform: in the flagship branch, it comes into play as base case when 8 or fewer words in multiplicand
mp_en_viaje: where oh where does he pop up from tomorrow ?! noooobody knows....
asciilifeform: ( properly speaking, comba aint even a mult algo in the usual mathematical sense, but merely a 'sideways' restatement of the traditional schoolboy O(n^2) mult algo to behave smoother on pc and other irons where cache is in play )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i 99% expect it ~will~ get snipped from the asm branch.
asciilifeform: for the base case -- entirely possib
asciilifeform: ave1: what have you been up to ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-24 03:55 ave1: trinque, doesn't cuntoo with default gcc also build it with some mystery meat? it probably starts out on a host with gcc?
asciilifeform: ( ideally -- would be a 256bit iron mul. but it dun seem to exist on any known irons today. )
asciilifeform: bvt: what i meant is, the optimal asmistic base case is not necessarily comba. could be 'micro' karatsuba, or even straight schoolbook mul. for so long as asm.
asciilifeform: bvt: it isn't actually a given that comba is even needed at all, with asmistic 64x64 mul
bvt: i agree. i played a bit with the code, arrived at slightly cleaner (and sub-1% faster) code for multiplication, seems that the performance is close to the hw limit (at least at 32 Indices Comba-Karatsuba threshold)
asciilifeform: so, entirely useless for the given problem, near as i can see
asciilifeform: ( nor does it appear to give a 128bit shift/add even )
asciilifeform: bvt: afaik sse offers only the very same 64x64bit multiplier as ordinary x64.
bvt: asciilifeform: myeah, i was too fast with sse -- simdifying such loops would be ~impossible.
asciilifeform: ( interestingly, this does ~not~ work out to a 'runs at effectively 1/30th the native clock', on acct of this effect. but i won't spoil this yet.) ☝︎
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, i think that 12kB actually weighs less than the human-readable text i've shat into the log re subj !
asciilifeform: item is nao in a condition where i can safely unload it from head & return to wrapping up ch20.
asciilifeform: ( ftr there is not yet any support for 'artificial disks'. but the mmap'd ram image can be made persistent by setting the 'write' flag, and when running from ramdisk you get in effect actual disk. this imho suffices for some applications. )
asciilifeform: it'll defo need review by literate folx before deployment to such things as piz, tho. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( the remaining 10%, is, of course, the fast rsatron !! )
asciilifeform: aaand pretty much 90% of mircea_popescu's 'uci' ( i.e. you can plant this wherever, and get artificial 'box' w/ specified os & proggies... )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-19 05:19 lobbes: Currently going down the headless-browser path ben_vulpes suggested. Looking into phantomjs atm, which seems like it could do the job. I have an old craptop I'm thinking of using as the proverbial 'public toilet' to house it on. (This is the same craptop I was planning to put a trb node on. I put a spanking-new ssd in there but then realized that the ethernet dun work anymore; wifi only. May be a good use for the thing to just be a turd server in
a111: Logged on 2019-06-04 00:51 asciilifeform: incidentally, i generate these by machine, and it takes about 3sec per. would have put it as a net-connected hopper thing aeons ago, BUT it of course uses a heathen render (there are no 'demonstrably electrically correct' pdf eaters, and i dun expect one to exist) and suffers from the obvious problem
a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 21:27 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919567 << interestingly, i got his to boot, simply required xor eax, 0x3 where byte addressing used, 1 opcode. (not needed for generic linux built by sane people, but i dun have one yet for mips )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919694 << prolly i oughta elaborate. in case wasn't clear, i've a ~12kB x64 proggy that boots a mostly-stock linux 3.x kernel, with uart as only device. which means that applications like this are theoretically possible, when i get back to this subj. ☝︎☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty for the heads up
asciilifeform: thinking about it, i still dunget why there are ~2~ binaryturd gcc's in the mix.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-24#1919790 << old era. afaik no one yet knows even a theoretical cure for ye olde 'to build gnat, 1st find a working gnat' headache ☝︎
asciilifeform: ugh they have their own merkel?!
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno... it was there
asciilifeform: meanwhile in heathendom, 'Canonical's decision to cease development of 32-bit libraries in Ubuntu 19.10 "eoan" means it won't support Steam gaming runtime and devs say the Wine compatibility layer for running Windows apps will be little use.'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can't resist to ask, why went to oslo ? what's there, other than tomb of naggum ? ( i dun even know where it is, cannot help to either piss on it or to put flower )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you may be interested to know that my shell to dulap bumped after 132d. ( for no detectable reason, either on this end or the other )
diana_coman: meanwhile I'm trying to disentangle here the cs/ps mess and I'm scratching my head at various bits: the CS engine works everywhere with names (strings) as ids (i.e. there are FindX functions only with string param, not with some numeric id despite the fact that internally it DOES HAVE them ffs) BUT then in some places it keeps various hashmaps with numeric ids for "common strings"
mp_en_viaje: i hope the arabs drive them into the sea.
mp_en_viaje: but yes, they're exactly the same thing : hanger ons, marginal shitholes where people wanna be polite and everyone to be equal
mp_en_viaje: and mind you, they make like e150 to take you the 30km from airport to oslo
mp_en_viaje: yes, in town
diana_coman: I have to admit I have a hard time doing argentina ~= norway mainly because of the whole south/north thing; that being said, from socialist pov sure, can very well be indeed.
diana_coman: ahaha, are those exchange offices in town ?
diana_coman: some will queue for anything; and anyways, not sure if "piling for cabs" is much better otherwise (e.g. Rome) though indeed I can't quite see why would there be such a lack of cabs in Oslo
mp_en_viaje: imagine the insane cheek required to even print this spread
mp_en_viaje: the exchange offices are out and out scams, trading insane nonsense like 9.2 (while advertising 9.4) to buy and 10.5 to sell (their shitty local coin is about 9.6 irl)
mp_en_viaje: imagine this : i get out of the airport, and there is a queue, i kid you not 1k+ people long
diana_coman: at least it seems to have working internet unlike cluj...
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: lolz, what does Norway/Oslo offer so much worse than all the rest?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-24 01:44 trinque: I will soon give this a try.
mp_en_viaje: i don't know that i can explain what an utter piece of shit oslo is.
lobbesbot: danielpbarron: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: !Q later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/QcDk9/?raw=true
ave1: btw I've *not* used the ada core version as a starting point for about a year now
mod6: Anyway, if I could work around this issue, then I can make an ebuild that'll build ave1s stuff with this.
trinque: actually makes sense, I guess it means the libc wasn't found, but it's unclear when it happens
trinque: oddly the OS reports a missing libc as "file not found" when executing the bin that wants it
trinque: mod6: this is expected; they're linked with glibc
mod6: For completeness, this is what happens when you try to install AdaCore 2016 (binaries) on Cuntoo (keep in mind that the install actually does place the binaries in the expected places...): http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vX16f/?raw=true
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IY76z/?raw=true << this is what I end up with, fwiw.
mod6: yeah, i think this was the issue.
trinque: there are likely challenges around getting a gnat on there with which to build itself.
mod6: alright, I'll have to go back and try to get this to build on here.
mod6: If the thinking is that it ~can~ be built on cuntoo, I'd much prefer an ebuild that would do that dance indeed.
mod6: so I never was able to build the ave1 musltronic tools on cuntoo, because no working gnat, I just bundled them up after I built them on a gentoo machine that had a working AdaCore 2016.
mod6: hey, sorry for the delay.
trinque: another thought, might make sense to call this sys-devel/gcc-9999, so one might perma-satisfy w/e caltrops demand gcc of a particular (and always higher) version
trinque: the idea here would be to rebuild it from source, not just use the bins you built
trinque: hm, in reading it, it looks like this pulls a mysterymeat tarball from your server and unpacks it, but doesn't build anything
trinque: I will soon give this a try. ☟︎
mod6: Anyway, I'm only just getting started with these. If there are glaring mistakes or feedback otherwise, please write in.
mod6: With everything in the right place... (I even needed a '/var/db/repos/mod6/metadata' directory with one file in it, 'layout.conf', that contains one single line: masters = cuntoo) then I was able to run a `ebuild ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924.ebuild clean manifest install merge` and end up with the extracted contents in '/ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924'.
mod6: To make this work properly, I built all of the ave1 musltronic tools on a gentoo instance with a 2016 AdaCore GNAT, then bundled up all of the binaries myself, and placed 'em on mod6.net for testing purposes.
mod6: trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4YG2X/?raw=true << Here is my **experimental only** ebuild, 'ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64-20180924.ebuild'. I've been placing this file, while testing in a directory ' /var/db/repos/mod6/app-tmsr/ave1_musltronic_tools_x86_64'.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/baby-doll/ << Trilema -- Baby Doll
a111: Logged on 2016-10-04 15:36 asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! pc engines 'apu2' (the board with the intel nics - vs. 'apu1', with realtek) , turns out, is crippled, hdt probe barfs with it, the cpu is reputed to have a drm fuse set.
asciilifeform: aaand that was an item where i found jtag test points that could be soldered & operated
asciilifeform patched once a 300kB closed turd, it took coupla months
asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1667, it took coupla months
asciilifeform: rright but who's gonna attempt debug of 50MB closed turd.
asciilifeform: in each case, ought to be said, required 100% demolition of 100% of the 'purportedly worx!!' liquishits
asciilifeform: another time, robot. took year+.
asciilifeform: one time asciilifeform had a paid contract to make a (early 2000s) wireless nic (w/ various oddball features for physics experiment) behave under opensores. took entire summer.
mp_en_viaje: for maximal enjoyment of this life.
mp_en_viaje: and i STILL know as close as anything can be known as a matter of fact that the code's fundamentally fine, and some wrapper intermediary is spuriously fucking it up.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i recall this.
asciilifeform: ( spoiler: also demanded 'wine', and with in the end same result as mp's 3d card )
a111: Logged on 2019-06-20 13:13 mircea_popescu: well so let's see here : i can't play, because after sinking however many hours in chasing dependencies and fixing assorted if widely distributed breakage the end story is that "foss" has managed to really give the whole game away -- there is ONE chain, consisting of play on linux so-and-so using wine-so-and-so on ubuntu this-and-that, and you pray it works -- because if it doesn't work, THAT IS IT, "there was an error" li
asciilifeform: 2y ago asciilifeform had roughly same experience with an expensive and supposedly very spiffy chinese usb oscilloscope. purportedly 'worx under linux', but then went and bought an' tried...
mp_en_viaje: or so i thought at the time ; but maybe the forum really wanted to hear more about how literally nothing can be fucking compiled without rewriting some parts, etc
a111: Logged on 2019-06-23 21:34 asciilifeform: i.e. when building new proggies, have had to do it 100% by hand
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919706 << for one reason or another, it's what ~always happens. INCLUDING in "works by itself" ubuntu, as i think i've recently documented beyond all fucking possible degree of intolerable tedium. ☝︎
asciilifeform: it's expected in a small boy, but how grown man gets stuck in that mode, i do not know -- must be sumthing physiological, cns equiv of dwarfism
asciilifeform: 'i only nao saw this, but Here Is How To Fix!!!'
asciilifeform: adlais, to be exact