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mp_en_viaje: that guy was eminently ALSO capable, in the of-this-list sense fo capacity. he wandered off on his own power, there was no "meet mp" moment iirc. but there's inescapably, overpoweringly, a difference between the daimons (one of the first trilema participants, back in 2009), and the phfs (
as it happens, the most recent "victim" of my "abusive" approach to disreality) of the world, and nicole on the other.
mp_en_viaje: see, daydreaming
as an activity is a switchoff, always there when... reality goes under a certain threshold. daydreaming is the backup girlfriend, the one you call when better plans for friday night failed.
diana_coman: it just seemed to me that Anon(s) was pouring so much effort into constructing all sorts of "he's bad" about anyone
as soon
as it seemed "safe" to do it that..well, maybe he finally gets the idea of pouring that effort into something more useful
mp_en_viaje: there's dcc, which while useless at least has historical logic, tryna compete in the field of the time, file transfer. because ~anyone wanted irc wanted so
as to sext
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 11:03:43 diana_coman: asciilifeform: actions seem to show in logger
as text said rather than in any way different; is that intended? I don't quite grok what's the thing with *nick then?
spyked: asciilifeform, minor nitpick re snsabot: I see no difference in the www interface between CTCP actions (the /me thing) and normal replies. e.g. I would expect ^ to be rendered
as "spyked also tried ..." instead of "spyked: also tried".
spyked: and by frontend I mean, proggy that receives file
as command argument and plays it -- in case of audio file, without spawning anything graphical
lobbes: in either case, re: upstack I'm going to take mp_en_viaje's advice and just genesis the eulora logger
as-is. It is a good point that nobody has to use the genesis *
as is* (and indeed, publishing today means I can look back on it tomorrow)
lobbes:
As for *why* these have rotted so: I am not sure. My best guess is that it is because my current #e logotron does many copy operations per hour from the ZNC files (though this is just a stab in the dark; I really don't know if this would cause bitrot)
snsabot: Logged on 2017-03-30 10:38:11 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will also nitpick : 'erlang' does not belong in the list, it was a 1980s product that worked quite well in its industrial niche (large telco switches) but was later stolen and used
as a totem by the folx from yesterday's thread (
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633873 )
mp_en_viaje: this explains it,
as i never ran squid to my memory anywhere
mp_en_viaje: (it is evidently useful to ~save them~,
as you found out yourself earlier in #eulora, that the search included them helped you)
mp_en_viaje: for the application of logger
as we use it, it's immensely better to keep the cache
as html files on disk.
mp_en_viaje: it ~makes sense~ to have it
as html on disk in this particular application.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, no, correct way to do this is...
as cache.
mp_en_viaje: in other lulz : anne heche got genital herpes from her father, who "sexually teased" her until she got her period or thereabouts -- this entirely has nothing to do with her "lesbian"-ism ; jessica alba got genital herpes from some indian dude ; paris hilton also got, possibly from dog ; britney spears got it
as a teen ; pamela anderson, lindsay lohan (doh)...
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, moreover, your reasoning is quite jumpy. who said that the only possible use of genesis'd material is to run it
as-is ? conceivably someone might want to import... your html scheme
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-11 18:38:49 asciilifeform: there are 3 possible pills : 1) increase delay (and there is no guarantee from fleanode re what suffices) 2) do
as ben's bot did, and await the fleanode-specific 'you've been authed' string when connecting 3) perform test re which chans we are in, when connected, and retry until the set of which-chans is equal to the config'd set
mp_en_viaje: a) why not genesis the item
as is ? b) what exactly is the problem with it anyways ?!
mp_en_viaje: the colorized names work well
as an alternative to linecolors imi.
lobbes: I figure I'm still going to publish my znc-eater.py anyways. Make a blog post out of it
as a nice example of "why python sucks and bash ftw" if anything
diana_coman: but it seems it took "diana_coman;is"
as nick?
diana_coman: I suspect so; there's a shortage of building blocks, not
as much of what to do with them
mp_en_viaje: in practice, the only difference is-- longer. 1-500 char bash one liners just
as expressive, powerful, comprehensible/maintainable
as 1-5k loc python chunks.
mp_en_viaje: nevermind fligjht, nevermind even something
as simple
as "stakhanov and his mighty pick"
BingoBoingo: Sounds like
as good of a reason
as any to start pushing a "fighter of the future don't need guns" meme
BingoBoingo as child yet to see kindergarden had a favorite book. Included all sorts of aircraft. The only ones I remember with certainty were the SR-71, A-10, flying radar picket, and the loser F-4 that didn't even have a gun while pretending to be a fighter.
snsabot: Logged on 2018-12-19 12:09:38 mircea_popescu: natural language, however, ablates the trees for "convenience" so to speak, ie, uses commonly what's known in computing
as sparse trees.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:20:38 diana_coman: to link it to the previous thread, it seems to me quite similar to saying that "instinct" of noob pilot is shit, therefore instinct of *any* pilot, experience be damned, is just
as shit; I seriously doubt this.
diana_coman: the way I see it, it's simply shortcut obtained through experience; hence my statement above that it's not and cannot be out of nothing just like that; even what seems
as "out of nothing" is just...forgot when learnt rather than truly out of nothing
diana_coman: asciilifeform: dunno, if you define instinct
as "automated path", then it can be acquired even for "untypical environ" and essentially the only thing is when one says "instinct" generically like that since it's not "one" but many and the whole thing is to know /be able to choose the right one
diana_coman: to link it to the previous thread, it seems to me quite similar to saying that "instinct" of noob pilot is shit, therefore instinct of *any* pilot, experience be damned, is just
as shit; I seriously doubt this.
diana_coman: ugh; I still call it misnomer though; "growing" like a tree without any internal work still doesn't mean that everyone's just
as hollow
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, aha.
as it happens human inner ear uniquely unfit for flight.
mircea_popescu: a: they both had this projected faint light line around the cockpit representing the true horizon. set so faint
as to disappear in direct vision, it nevertheless informed the (more sensitive) peripheral vision, preventing accidents wonderfully!
snsabot: Logged on 2018-08-29 12:10:45 mircea_popescu: pro tip : the thompson's a passible concrete cutter. it comes from the same mental era
as http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=warthog ; made by the same people for the same reasons, abandoned by the same cucks for the same reasons.
mircea_popescu: same bunch of morons who ALSO pushed through very expensive but otherwise mostly pointless sensor upgrade -- also specifically so
as to claiom "costly"
mircea_popescu: obviously from THEIR pov if there isn't any such thing
as a spear to fucking poke them until they submit (yes, the SPEAR was the original society-changer, turned human tribes from matriarchy to patriarchy because finally there was an efficient way to make the dumb cunts stfu with their dumb nonsense) all the better ; but theirs isn't a legitimate pov.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:02:39 mp_en_viaje: 3) the whole of it was always hanging out with the cool people. i don't mean, "cool",
as in, swag. i mean cool
as in david lynch quote above, dork bought a 12 room house for $3500 in th worst gangland he could find for his wife and newborn kid and lived there, "the fear was palpable"
mircea_popescu: but yes, the sort of thing involved there, such
as "listen sonny, ever heard of Schlieren flow visualisation ? no ? look here, this is supersonic jet in flight!" are the primary dirvers of intelligent adolescents even putting in the work to become adult engieners in the first fuckin gplace
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'm quite happy with jfw 's "Actually "mod_lisp" is perhaps a misnomer; it could be viewed
as a generic IPC interface that comes with a Lisp implementation of the server side." comment.
mircea_popescu: (and, while at it, how the first analog computers were developed -- no, it wasn't bomb calculators, it was jet engine air intake anti-unstarters for applications such
as this guy.)
mircea_popescu: sonic flight) that its fucking tanks leaked fuel on takeoff ~
as a design feature~.
mircea_popescu: there was, of course, no supersonic civil flight since the concorde/tu144 retirements, so i suppose we could use 1970s
as a high water mark. but if anyone's having kids these days, i believe by the time they're our age their only interaction with flight will be in the
hanging-on-ropes format.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:37:33 spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs,
as long
as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"
mircea_popescu:
as far
as i can tell legitimate traffic. wtf do i know
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 12:46:32 asciilifeform: the 'pc micro revolution' popularized an imho extremely braindamaged concept of what is 'comp lang'. specifically, where folx think that the front syntax is somehow logically glued to the internal mechanics ( whereas is merely happenstance, pc provides such broken bedrock abstractions that forces erry new lang author to write compiler 'from 0'
as if year were 1959, but this is merely happenstance, rather than lo
bvt:
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-08#1926500 << i think get your point; though tbh, from my reading of linux it's not clear that urandom uses separate entropy pool,
as i understood so far urandom uses the same pool
as random, just ignores all 'entropy' measures (i still did not quite load that part in head, so this is not final info).
bvt: i don't think there is a way out of treating utf8ism
as raw bytes, other than finding a heathen library
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:39:17 spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing.
as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and
as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 05:20:29 mircea_popescu: what can you do, alf just not
as good at computing
as phf :D
diana_coman: I still need to run tests and timings re "fast" but
as a principle, it's not the first requirement (rsa is not for speed anyway)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 03:21:27 mp_en_viaje: (idea is, you !!v a buncha times and safely decrypt, then store the otps use
as needed. this was discussed years ago, it's good cuz it don't expose the keys on bot's iron)
lobbes: In my case, the cost of the iron getting popped and my bots losing their private keys did not seem high (really, I'd just make a new bot key and sign it from mine). Still,
as I said, probably not ideal, especially when spyked already has the proper otp solution published.
mircea_popescu: they're about
as dumb
as the ukrs, honestly. place's so fucked...
spyked: mircea_popescu, purely from the user's point of view, it works reliably
as far
as I can see. and two days ago I wrote a simple mock "comment eater" for thetarpit and was reasonably productive. I haven't found any major flaws yet, so I'll continue working through the code.
spyked: ah. yeah, not sure there's such a thing.
as asciilifeform pointed out, cl seems to handle string'isms better... and
as mircea_popescu pointed out, cl doing tcpisms is not much different from python
mircea_popescu: i took it
as "one true computer lang", which is iffier.
spyked: mircea_popescu, re. tmsr lang: could be one of two or three (or I dunno how many) langs,
as long
as tmsr owns 'em. atm there's no genesis for a cl compiler/interpreter (let alone e.g. networking code a la usocket, or a curl etc.), so... inb4 "fuck you spyked, I can't even compile sbcl, how do you want me to stand up your logotron"