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mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-30#1920894 << nope, real
time is exactly not it. exact same shiot as retrospective, really, purely irrational.
to be rational, it must be PROSPECTIVE. science makes predictions not "in real
time" or after
tjhe fact. BEFORE
the fact.
☝︎ mp_en_viaje: not "run away
to bedroom because nyah nyah"
mp_en_viaje: you;re supposed
to LEARN HOW
TO make promises. much like you were supposed
to LEARN HOW
TO manage BingoBoingo
mp_en_viaje: wtf is
this, "i don't like
the way
the
tests results are coming out so ima impugn
the lab" ? "i'm not fat, i'm just stressed and besides everyone
this side of ozarks looks like
this" ?
mp_en_viaje: what are you doing differently
to avoid it ?
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, you never discussed WHY it just added
to reputation of charlatan. why did it ?
mp_en_viaje: and yes, i get it, it irritates you
to high heavens your work isn't moving faster.
that's fine. but it is also not
the
topic here.
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: if you bother
to review
the source material, you might discover
that is entirely ~your~ contribution.
mp_en_viaje: this is business 101, everyone who ever worked with people in any capacity understands it as a necessary part and parcel of what
their life experience meant ; much like everyone who's ever been
to
the doctor understands
that such contributions as "gimme
the white round ones,
they're
the best" are not proper.
mp_en_viaje: you HAVE
TO be able
to work with others in order
to make
things.
there's no way out of
this. and you HAVE
TO be able
to plan, and execute, and review plans and executions,
to work with others.
mp_en_viaje: idn't, so
this is how i'll be different from now on", it is not POSSIBLE
to do anything worthy of such lofty names as "sane computing" or even "programmed vcr".
mp_en_viaje: yes, i'm very much aware "asciilifeform would rather roll out gossipd,
trbi, sane comp irons, etc. ~with~ participation of mp_en_viaje" etc.
the problem here is -- you will do no such
thing. what you will do, instead, is reconfigure your own desk into some sort of shape you and you alone deem meaningful, and
that's all. because it is not POSSIBLE, for
the man who can't say either "i will do
this" and
then do it, nor "i said i would do
this, but d
mp_en_viaje: it's not a matter of "mp". it is a matter
that, alf as he finds himself, incapable of any rational process besides retrospective description, is not actually in a place where he can do anything with anyone else. exactly like
the given example of
the fallen rock.
mp_en_viaje: you have been, systematically if ineffectually (though i'm sure it looks exactly
the other way from inside) attempting
to escape management.
this is an unhealthy state of affairs, and one
that bars you from meaningful interaction with other people.
mp_en_viaje: management is only useful for rational agents, which is
to say,
they who do not expect
to form some kind of personal relationship with it ; but instead use it, which is
to say, permit it
to operate upon
them.
mp_en_viaje: management is
the art and practice of optimizing known processes, and of reducing all phenomena
to known processes.
that's all it is, and all it does. it is a mighty useful
thing,
too, but not for everyone.
mp_en_viaje: management is exactly
the same
thing : a rational process. it is for
the same exact cause just exactly as disinterested in your personality, your worldview, or
the mask you put on
things
to make it possible
to get out of bed in
the morning.
mp_en_viaje: ense of revolutionarizing
the fundamentals.
mp_en_viaje: if you proceed
to explain
to him how you don't feel urine
tests are an adequate measure of your kidneys, because
they're made of light and so something with a stroboscope would be rather preferable, he's going simply output a mental health specialist recommendation. because he does not care what you say ; he does not care what you
think ;
the process you are engaging in by going
to
the doctor is not open
to your intellectual contribution in
the s
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, looky, management is a rational activity. like medicine. when you go
to
the doctor's office, irrespective of what you say, he's going
to seek
the answer
to a very specific set of questions, which he has pre-determined, and which he is not adjusting
to you in any way -- on
the contrary.
BingoBoingo: Log archaeology
to follow old yet ongoing
threads has a cost. Blog posts, even if
they aren't substantially more
than index cards manage
to reduce
the cost of substantially.
BingoBoingo: Having
the MIPS
thing in
the log is good, but
taking good stuff out of
the log for
the blog
to highlight and more easily find later is a value add.
BingoBoingo: As it is,
there's no mention of
the MIPS experiment on your blog. Last post is FFA Chapter 19. I suspect if put
together a weekly or every other weekly "This is what I've done, here's what I am chewing on, here is what has yet
to be bit off, etc" would calm some nerves
☟︎ BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It seems
to be
that
the problem is MP is stuck in a "Wat do?" loop.
diana_coman: asciilifeform:
that's not an answer
to my question, is it;
there is
that direct contradiction
there, right? it can't just be waived because whatever and it precisely points at
the fact
that
the problem is not about "sacking asciilifeform" really.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 15:54 diana_coman read
the article where it specifically says asciilifeform NOT sacked, nor
to be sacked because
that's nonsense given NSA's main purpose.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 16:06 asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox
to do asciilifeform
the favour and spell it out as if he were
the quasi-retarded 5yo
that apparently all of
the participants in $thread suspect
that he is
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 15:44 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm at
the
tail end of
the
necessary cycle, was gonna order
the irons
this wk, and book
the flight -- next, but would first rather find out mp_en_viaje's plan
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:46 diana_coman: asciilifeform: I did and I even found it easier
than previous material
though I'm not sure why;
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no; and communication is both-ways, includes reading what others say not what
the reader
thinks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it does not count. because it is ~retrospective~.
this is how rocks communicate, "i can't speak for other hunks, but so far i hurtled
three miles downhill"
a111: Logged on 2019-06-22 13:39 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-22#1919162 << can't speak for other folx, but asciilifeform wrote 7 ch. of ffa
thus far in '19 (featuring errything
to do with primes, and all of peh, plus
tutorials on
the latter) and expect
to wrap up 8th (# 20) before june is out.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, atm im figuring some
time and a re-read is
the only
ticket.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: no; get
through
that it's about communication not about amount of work put in.
diana_coman: I'm keeping silent because I'm at a loss as
to how
to get
through
to asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: the core of
that article is
trinque 's lament, not your feelings as
to
the world and your adequacy in it.
the man has a point -- large and round and not something we can afford
to ignore.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform,
try and
think about
the actual problem being discussed, rather
than some simpler problem you feel more at ease with and everyone else should be retarded enough
to permit
the replacement with.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 07:07 asciilifeform would like
to bake new batch of sellable goodies , after we release peh/ffa
diana_coman read
the article where it specifically says asciilifeform NOT sacked, nor
to be sacked because
that's nonsense given NSA's main purpose.
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: "personally i'd rather put fish on
the fish counters" << is
this
the available variants ? metaphore ?
a111: Logged on 2019-06-15 19:08 asciilifeform back
to ffaism, after short 'vacation' . will order piz irons in coming 2wk, as
the req'd fiatola piles up
a111: Logged on 2018-07-26 03:58 mod6: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.22505299 S.NSA colocation (dulap)
through June 2019
mp_en_viaje: they have little magazines dedicated
to mutual stroking of
the achieve-envy-fail-gloat cycle, it's all
there.
a111: Logged on 2019-06-30 00:41
trinque: BingoBoingo: like "someday I'll post such a great pic on instagram I'll have
the likes
to buy a flat in miami" or what