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asciilifeform: but today - one would have to be clinically stupid
phf: perhaps they don't see it as an existential threat
asciilifeform: what does rme (who i know nothing of..) have to lose ?
asciilifeform: i dun get why more folks won't declare total war. ☟︎
phf: so i push back on the guy, rme says "let's change subject", within minutes guy goes "it's late here i gotta go to sleep" ☟︎☟︎
phf: i saw one of those operators in action yesterday, rme of clozure cl is doing "open office hours" on irc, and They come. "why are you using ccldoc instead of BIG PACKAGE NAME??? i want to change docs to BIG PACKAGE NAME for increased adoption" "why are there stale useless files? i want to remove them to improve maintainability" etc.
asciilifeform: 'to examine a granfalloon, remove the skin of a toy balloon' (tm) (r) (vonnegut)
phf: "contributor to X, Y and Z, wasn't hired because obviously your organization is -ist"
asciilifeform: as in, it NEVER had the slightest legitimate reason to exist.
asciilifeform: often there is ~whole project~ which consists of gendercommit.
asciilifeform: recall the 'flycheck' thread ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 23:51 asciilifeform: if you subtract obvious drepperisms, 'comment commits' by genderfucks, etc. - you end up with circa-'90s mass every time.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-19#1506567 << i've been going through that exercise with code recently, where the original developer abandoned the project and there's a new maintainer. the exercise is to see how much of it is gendered pronouns. not surprisingly in many cases for every 1 bug fixed, there's a dozen entirely inconsequential commits. file shuffles, renames, code removals, README copyright updates, that sort of stuff. it's like nobody's ☝︎
mircea_popescu: damn, i thought it was the black knight always triumphs.
asciilifeform: by not firing the control shot, dao raper allowed mit to close own hole.
mircea_popescu: who in his right mind would close a hole in teh mit budget ? by all means, let them succeed and keep on succeeding, like they've won the war in the middle east.
mircea_popescu: you're wide open, in a security sense, because of this notion of cleanliness. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the boat issue goes way the fuck deeper than you realise.
asciilifeform: but am surprised that whoever took the bother of raping dao, did not follow through.
asciilifeform: didn't say that anybody in particular ought to clean up.
asciilifeform: i suppose we can add it to the very very long list of items which are supposedly 'dead' but continue to live, spraying out ecological poison left and right that will take eons to clean up
asciilifeform: why bother with the etherape thing only to release the mouse, still alive and well, from the mousetrap later ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh what do i care what they do. the idea here is "o look, a scamcoin nobody holds managed to hardfork. this is about as relevant to bitcoin as guy soiling his pants and then washing them in the sink. I AM ROVER GER AND I THINK ITS TIME FOR BITCOIN TO! "
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody no one ? not even on the battleship mircea_popescurora ?
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thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i used to read amanda b johnson. But she is more for the children I think.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well no one bothered to actually hold any of the tokens, either, so...
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller rotate the lolcow ? preferably towards something with tits ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Reading involves comprehension. I merely glance over it for lulz. I invest more focus on reading my comic books than Ver.
phf: Framedragger: re ipython you could probably avoid all the discussions about right and wrong by simply doing and then presenting the result
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you realise you're about the only reader ver actually has ?
thestringpuller: Never though Ethereum would become more scandalous than paycoin.
thestringpuller: nope. it was all staged to act as fud to get Bitcoin to hardfork while creating FED-chain.
asciilifeform: no one bothered to set off 'difficulty bomb' ? etc
asciilifeform: and, what, traditional-eth vanished immediately ?
asciilifeform: ty thestringpuller .
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: again, if you ~mention~ a thing that is happening solely on reddit, it is just the same as linking
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i don't like posting reddit links as not to infect the channel
asciilifeform: (if mircea_popescu dun feel like doing this experiment, perhaps another mechanically-literate fella ? ben_vulpes ?)
asciilifeform: it should not mention the purpose of the part.
mircea_popescu goes back to finishng his article.
asciilifeform: but i would like to read the essay first
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: please don't assume that folks read reddit unprompted. i don't
mircea_popescu: i won't bother then.
asciilifeform: and cut from that.
thestringpuller: the ethereum hard fork is making the VER-ified crowd go wild.
asciilifeform: he will pull the ubiquitous drawing once he realizes what you described.
mircea_popescu: gotta locate a drawing on THIS USELESS INTERNET
asciilifeform: i would love to see result !
mircea_popescu: for the sake of why not, i will.
mircea_popescu: all the machining i ever had done was presented in essay form.
asciilifeform: or an architect who will agree to design a building ~wholly~ by putting words, sentences, to paper.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: find me a chemist - a practicing, professional organiker - who will not barf at this suggestion.
mircea_popescu: i do not want them. nobody does.
mircea_popescu: but then again stop fucking pushingyour doodles on other people. they are the exact equivalent of used condoms.
asciilifeform: there is a reason why most folks play chess with a board vs with telephone
mircea_popescu: it may not be the most convenient format for doodling,
asciilifeform: but this is NOT the most convenient format for ~editing~ (transforming, etc) the thing.
mircea_popescu: and if you don't, i'm not underwriting the eventual wreck.
asciilifeform: just as, close your eyes and describe your house to a stranger
asciilifeform: this is not actually hard to do if you have the item in your head.
mircea_popescu: if not, why not and what does this say about his mental organisation.
mircea_popescu: but the point is : literacy is a skill not a blessing. does this architect know how to present the tree IN PROPERLY SORTED ORDER ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu should have asked 'tell it to the builders instead of showing paper'
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised how much you find about an architect with this simple process.
mircea_popescu: most all of them reached for the paper, which i wouldn't give back.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i used to pick architects by the criterion : "nice plan, now tell it to me".
mircea_popescu: your head works principally when its tendency to disregard natural complexity is well supported.
asciilifeform: chemistry-in-words makes about the same amount of sense as cad in words.
mircea_popescu: but your brain doesn't beenfit from this.
asciilifeform: y'know, the buggers actually ARE 3d (arguably 3.5d) ~physical objects~
mircea_popescu: and i knew i failed within minutes specifiucally because not using the fucking pictures.
mircea_popescu: ad hoc nonsense, but to illustrate the point.
asciilifeform: of an item that wasn't in the book
mircea_popescu: "from organic chemistry take an item that is with carbons linked like so, where * can be anything ie free radical and = at the end links back to origin"
mircea_popescu: i find that especially in organic chemistry the drawings are counterproductive.
asciilifeform: what's the / do ?
mircea_popescu: i'm even amenable to saying ::oc/C-COH-C:: ☟︎
asciilifeform: (most weren't, simply ignored the news)
asciilifeform: textbooks, i shit thee not, had to be junked
asciilifeform: before laughing, consider, iupac gold standard program HUNG when fed chiralane for the first time.
mircea_popescu: i have no problem with the author replacing iupac.
asciilifeform: will mircea_popescu barf when a boojum turns up in the massive iupac rule set this imports ?
mircea_popescu: ::2-propanol:: should yield that.
asciilifeform: see, if i can't ~paste~ the equation from the viewer into my algebratron, and evaluate it, the system is broken.
asciilifeform: (machine w/out the plugin is painful to use if you ever try to copy/paste, you end up getting bitmaps)
asciilifeform: and if you have the old mathtex plugin thing, they do not
mircea_popescu: but knowing the thing, they're probably stolen.
asciilifeform: yes but iirc they get generated.
asciilifeform: they seem to have something like it
asciilifeform: how does the thing on pediwikia work ?
mircea_popescu: which i arbitrarily call tex.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : i want a tag to turn numbers into images ; which i arbitrarily call svg ; and i want a tag to turn strings into scientific notation (which does not JUST mean math, i want chemistry also.)
mircea_popescu: so i guess you can have a fat 8 lines of buttons in the mp-wp thing ; and i'll continue to type tags in directly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's machine can turn it into sanskrit if he likes.
asciilifeform: at any rate i have 0 problem with this.
asciilifeform: it will actually crap out translit when you hit f3 ('view file') if the terminal doesn't have cyrillic.
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu also say that machine should transliterate the greek texts for you ?
mircea_popescu: make the machine make it.
mircea_popescu: so then what's the problem.