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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: waiwut
JuliaTourianski_: mircea_popescu what do u think of physicals
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:20:40; mircea_popescu: moe finds bitcoin in 2056, long after the republic prevailed, through his gf at the time. he steals her script, copies her .wot directory and now has a node!
gernika: mircea_popescu: I don't recall saying anything. Probably because I was pretending: "no big deal." or something.
polarbeard: mircea_popescu: so no love for da hooks? :) actually I'm not confortable at all using cpp...
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> make a 4kb key and use it rather than the strange md5 lists or what's that. << RSA too.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't seem to find it in the logz
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: we already have that (me ;)
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: we're currently setting up a non profit organization around buildroot
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: I guess we could, but it has never come up so far
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: yes
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: true. I'll get the new key cross signed by the other devs at our next dev days and start using it
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: great
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: and buildroot is working out of you or do you have some kind of problems?
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: ahh, interesting
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: got a mail that you guys were doing something with Buildroot and if I could join?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how's that
Jacmet: mircea_popescu: ;)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lacking a rigorously narrower complexity class, i am stuck with tc
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 15:48:49; mircea_popescu: listen, if you say "diff should parse scheme" instead of "diff should be turing complete" people'd follow a lot easier.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: read his thing, mega-recommended.
asciilifeform: this is where i repeat mircea_popescu's admonition not to eat from dumpsters.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's javascript also doesn't work in every browser
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 16:07:32; mircea_popescu: there's been this weirdo trend of (mostly anglo) girls getting worried about their labia minora being "wrong", mostly on account of thgere being a LOT of natural variation on that score, and anglo chicks being all weird and insecure and sexually inexperienced. plus of course the crazed marketing society, that feeds into all of the above.
asciilifeform: i suppose if mircea_popescu tells me that it is standard, i will believe.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a misconception, in this case. weigh my tinyscheme vs gnudiff!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if this was not clear, there is not presently any such thing as turing-complete diff/patch
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a continuation of a thread almost as old as 'v' - consider the tinyscheme-genesis patch, shiva, and the 'pedigree bridge'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's soliders painted quite a lot of grass fields green, and snowmen - white, didn't they.
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu want it to be finished, and replace the idiot rpc ?
asciilifeform: my point was that mircea_popescu is asking 'the tank must be 1,000 tonnes! because fuckyou' but from where comes the engine ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: say we do things precisely as you described. and tomorrow i publish a patch. now everyone who wants to test it, cannot apply it at all unless he is willing to use my tree wholesale. instead he has to MANUALLY merge it in, line by line. and then i end up back-and-forth-ing over his typos for the next month, instead of doing ANYTHING else
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu doesn't seem to give the least damn about sweat, so long as it is not off his own back. 'who cares how many zeks it takes to build belomor canal' ?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:25:16; mircea_popescu: the important parts here being that v does away with the concept of developer control over code ; and with the concept of code ownership ; and instead introduces the concept of signature-driven responsibility.
asciilifeform: as i understand, it is a thing that mircea_popescu considers sinful ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a centralized thing! that an idiot one day could get to the wheel of !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a defensible perspective but it leaves me wondering wtf you were doing when founded a trb foundation ! a throne omg!!1111111
asciilifeform: that is, if we end up in the position where every developer has own tree, and mircea_popescu is not content to go, e.g., 'gimme what mod6 has' - then ~mircea_popescu~ will have to 'toil and trouble' and hand-merge ?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 21:52:20; mircea_popescu: the idea is to have diverse coder process, and a lot of fuckign toi land trouble on tghe coders, for maximal output quality.\
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-02-2016#1411126 << does mircea_popescu fully understand that there is NO MACHINE MERGING in v ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:22:12; mircea_popescu: people in the senate floor of the most serene republic notice the silly things the kids are doing in bed these days and lo! ben_vulpes signs it, which makes that snipped suddenly go into a bunch of servers.
asciilifeform: now, this makes life very easy for mircea_popescu, or so he thinks, because he can go 'i want a mod6 tree'
asciilifeform: and tentatively conclude that mircea_popescu wants everybody to have own vtree
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 23:02:29; mircea_popescu: nobody is to use AntPool, A-XBT, Bitfinex, BitFury, Bitmain, BIT-X Exchange, Blockcloud, BTCC, Coinfloor, F2Pool, HaoBTC, Ledger, LIGHTNINGASIC & BitExchange, OKCoin or Spondoolies-Tech for any purpose under any circumstances, or ever hire anyone who ever worked there.
assbot: Logged on 20-01-2016 01:24:01; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ever see film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2375605 ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol no i do not
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody stops mircea_popescu from living in a private universe.
asciilifeform: we know that mircea_popescu likes beating, but you will not make a horse fly by extra-strong beating
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:26:08; mircea_popescu: and you may NEVER say to any user "your program is not working correctly because you've not given tyhe developer enough control over it". this is anathema, and the source of the "llvm-ization" comment.
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 22:33:29; mircea_popescu: but it can't be what it is today, "please update your autoupdater now!"
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.pgp.-1:03a52b052a85fd5c2db64a8c3c246194af63db19e1c77048045f7077602e6f15
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.petertodd.-1:6215861df810e25c971f9be4c49a19e89ca1076647faa992dc03014663b0e207
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.bluematt.-1:e5351e13fcfcf737a1944692afd5b18ff3da8f9f5ab758e6dc9ab246f4ecbbe1
phf: "i, ordained computron mircea lifeform, in the year of our republic 1932, having devoted three months to the verification of checksums, with my heart pure and my press clean, sit down to transcribe vee patch ascii_limits_hack, signed by the illustrious asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and all saints." ☟︎
mod6: thanks mircea_popescu. I'm doing my best -- I need to get us in a non-disjointed situation, hence the self-imposed deadline here.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yup
ben_vulpes: perhaps i am laboring under the misapprehension that v should be useful for something other than putting software on mircea_popescu's box
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: not a list of patches a list of *leaves*
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2016 05:22:12; mircea_popescu: punkman well, let's see what the others say. i faintly dislike the idea on morale grounds, but it's not the end of the world
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: only if "actual test cycles" only means "#b-a test cycles"
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 20:03:57; asciilifeform: but the main thing is, i'm now inclined to agree with mircea_popescu : pressing 'to head X' is ill-specified.
jurov: mircea_popescu: why are you telling me that?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> but the main thing is, i'm now inclined to agree with mircea_popescu : pressing 'to head X' is ill-specified. << ok but how should this work
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://45.media.tumblr.com/d94a622dacfd972d5214c5bc590c8d46/tumblr_nnwbfyaOd41tpspkgo1_500.gif
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no i did not go into each idiocy in depth
asciilifeform: i wrote v because mircea_popescu and hanbot cried
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 02:06:58; mircea_popescu: trust people, not code.
asciilifeform: but the main thing is, i'm now inclined to agree with mircea_popescu : pressing 'to head X' is ill-specified. ☟︎
mod6: gernika, shinohai, ben_vulpes, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, hanbot, et. al. ^
asciilifeform: because, at least partly, the latter represents 'capital allocation', or as mircea_popescu's article put it, 'a thing we can't all be doing'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/letters-from-the-stupid-country/ << your girls?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2016 15:42:01; mircea_popescu: but in other news, /me is looking forward to reinstated phyctor
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.gaxaro.1:d3988c802eaefea702616d83201ea61045b6ddd590ef3129643656c8b3dd2dd3
asciilifeform: money is 'given' so that you can 'buy 200 mil of ads from arsebook, who gave it' as per mircea_popescu's article.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: mcmuffin
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: earlier thread, p. 134 of turd has a chart, claims 1,084 usgrasty applicants with breakdown of why rejected
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/3VHHZ30.txt
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: best filipinos - https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/46ng26/ez_guide_how_to_lose_money_in_a_blocksizerelated
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'V. crabro ... Unlike most other vespines, reproductive suppression involves worker policing instead of queen pheromone control as was previously thought.' << srsly ?!
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.Azelphur.2:f33183b8ba43d44d071d00ec04c409c688a04fbc57b2575d78f7ce2b29dee85b
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gargauni ?
asciilifeform: yeah but mircea_popescu is not 'anyone'. you would wonder, if you saw pablo escobar, who had his ~own~ rhinoceros, go to the zoo, no ?
asciilifeform: out of curiosity, what does mircea_popescu use bars for ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these folks were not even a century out of chattel serfdom
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the material is as plentiful as it is monotonous.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is of course free do define my questions, such as 'do they have the rsa pill', as uninteresting. but i find this position too martian to fully grasp with my puny earthling brain.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not that one either.
asciilifeform: incidentally, how come mircea_popescu dislikes 'ndranghetta ? it's orcs doing healthy virile orc stuff, no ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu mega-optimist
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/02/ftc-settles-with-butterfly-labs-suspended-penalties-for-management/#comment-46670 << what do the numbers refer to ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you can pick a cipher or combo of ciphers you can temporarily stomach, we can have an irc box up with pgp auth.
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 04:38:25; mircea_popescu: spoeaking of which alf...
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 13:48:21; mircea_popescu: who the fuck keeps a generator indoors.
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 15:21:29; mircea_popescu: STOP BEING ANGLOTARDS!!!
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 13:51:09; mircea_popescu: man, every vehicle you ever saw moving has a 100-200-500W battery inside, wut.
assbot: Logged on 19-02-2016 15:24:52; mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> so now with https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/ it is probably a good time to point out that i've been trying to get you people a server for maybe three years now. are you still unable to be helped or has that bad habit of the past changed also ? kloeri ? mist ? or who do i talk to.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> so now with https://blog.freenode.net/2016/02/recent-events-and-future-changes/ it is probably a good time to point out that i've been trying to get you people a server for maybe three years now. are you still unable to be helped or has that bad habit of the past changed also ? kloeri ? mist ? or who do i talk to. ☟︎☟︎
jurov: til mircea_popescu draws 21 kW
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: cheers