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Framedragger: mircea_popescu: basically, and that's strictly it - because i couldn't intuitively wrap my head around the fact that average number of nodes per specific folder would be _really_ low if depth is say more than 3. still weird in my head, but yeah.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i don't get it, you graphed some functions ? or ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: is there such a thing as an indian who isn't a total shitbag ?
Framedragger: re. fs nodes, couldn't sleep + not sure if this makes sense, so just throwing these out - barebones super simplistic (function is `n_objects_to_store ^ 1 / folder_depth`) plots showing expected average number of nodes per folder (assumptions are no bias in hashspace and also equal share of hash bits per folder level) - it may not be intuitive how low the averages are until you look:
Framedragger: for symlink fs testers (or maybe selfnote for later): note that if you allow for sufficient folder tree depth, the "1000s of symlinks per dir" won't realistically happen when storing, say, bitcoin transaction hashes. the latter have 256 bits => 64 hex chars. if you allow for depth of 8 where last level (8) is symlink itself, you get 32 bits per folder level.
mircea_popescu: can't say jack shit without seeing some numbers.
diana_coman: needs to reimplement to get out on the other side really (I did NOT dig deep into Blender but I wouldn't be surprised if it were terribly bloated at the very least)
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-09#1623846 <-- fwiw the only way I can see this dependency on Python going anywhere would be if someone makes a sane replacement basically - however, artists need it but won't do it and otherwise people who are able to do it have a huge list of *other* things that need to be done as far as I can see; moreover (and as usual already), the whole steaming pile is deep so I can't even say how much one ☝︎
mircea_popescu: we don't really understand what we're designing against
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 06:41 mircea_popescu: this way you don't actually have to ~index~ anything, if you wish to see where txn 1234567890 was included in a block, you go to /12/34/56/7890 which points to block x
Framedragger: asciilifeform: on top of 'transactions', postgres has 'checkpoint' parameter. but you probably won't like it because of the whole 'not turning off fsync' thing
mircea_popescu: in short this problem isn't yet salient.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-26 19:27 mircea_popescu: the other problem is that a good db fix is a very large project, because bitcoin is written insanely. and our fs db isn't moving, last i heard a month ago someone was going to try and profile an extx
mircea_popescu: you repeat halfway of the discussion, "here is what i said lalala i can't hear anyone"
Framedragger: for a minute i thought (don't know why) that what is *additionally* needed is the capability to have paths of /symlinks/to/symlinks/.
mircea_popescu: WHO THE FUCK THINKS LIKE T?HIS
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 06:41 mircea_popescu: this way you don't actually have to ~index~ anything, if you wish to see where txn 1234567890 was included in a block, you go to /12/34/56/7890 which points to block x
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1588180 << i won't have time in the nearest future, but for anyone who may be looking into symlinks, this may be useful: https://lwn.net/Articles/650786/ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it was the beginning of the end of the british colonial empire. it crashed, where empires come to day, in that god forsaken asshole of the world where fork-bearing regiments are cut to shreds and don't run off on contact. or at all.
mircea_popescu: scheme isn't happening.
asciilifeform: and incidentally freezing also doesn't solve the problem -- there is no written standard, and if there were, it would fill a room and be quite unreadable
trinque: at least there you use the outputs and don't run the toolchain all day eh?
asciilifeform: phf's 'this commonlisptron suxxx, i'ma use another' won't work in pythonistan.
asciilifeform: there aren't, in any meaningful sense, multiple implementations.
trinque: I don't see that python or any of its kind have any future
mircea_popescu: trinque no, it has its merits. of course if you're discussing X topic there will be a THE book, also, this isn't arguing against that.
ben_vulpes: the other point i didn't get to make is that i dont' buy the 'personal failing' line; redundancy uber alles
mircea_popescu: well what other bots ? lobbes ' is older than deedbot iirc. you got 100% of bots made after release, can't complain.
mircea_popescu can't quite map the 3 bots 1 man thing. who ?
mircea_popescu: trinque don't worry, alf's been hawking ssh pipes and so far idem.
trinque: politics seeming to be a big driver of the evolution of human intelligence, I don't see how someone who says "but no, the arena is not for me" can be said intelligent.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman after all, if the alternative investments weren't that, they'd naturally fold right in, becoming logreaders suo modo. in this view the "who are you" question reflects exactly this, "what of your previous investments is actually meaningful ?"
mircea_popescu: "this examination didn't come with a scoring sheet!! alert!!! how are we to train for the examination111!!!"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman well, vanity in any light it didn't bring from home... does.
diana_coman: works, yes; I don't find anything against it
mircea_popescu: you don't ?
phf: but i still feel like it was a "waste" in a sense that usually you don't apply same educational methods on battlefield as you do in a lyceum.
phf: i don't think it was a waste from the whole Man of Knowledge perspective. i derived a lot of value building one, which makes me think so did others when they built theirs.
mircea_popescu: or isn't it ?
asciilifeform: '"If the President is going to make outlandish claims like this in the future, he needs to know he will be exposed and high-ranking people within the US government -- like the director of our intelligence agencies and the FBI -- will be forced to say the President wasn't telling the truth," the California Democrat said.'
mircea_popescu: i don't ask suck things in person, as you well know i'm socially shy. gotta do it from behind kbd.
mircea_popescu: and yeah, bring her over, i wanna ask her why she don't do teh boob scribbling
asciilifeform: and the mr.t-uses-snapchat (or what was it) does not exactly disprove.
mircea_popescu: socially inept males aren't born socially inept, nor do they build their ineptitude in a day.
mircea_popescu: not to mention, it wouldn't be the first time. you understand this ? most tried things, in a widening fan, a la alf's own nsa attempt.
mircea_popescu: which is the mirror statement of this -- peasants can be kept packing mud in the buff by a round table. 40 knights aren't 4, which aren't 2 etcetera.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you conflate many things. having the car ready doesn't necessitate it being launched early.
mircea_popescu: ain't convincing, i meant.
asciilifeform: the thing that cools asciilifeform's enthusiasm re 'trbi' to somewhere south of 3 kelvin, is that it isn't clear to him that anybody actually wants this, for something
mircea_popescu: but not even it, they can't be high informatio,
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is someone who doesn't know supposed to choose.
mircea_popescu: in other news in the same vein, the pirate bay doesn't seem to have... the story of o.
mircea_popescu: i'm not going to squeeze the world through the eye of a needle because i'm so infatuated with conceptual beauty that i can't resist. i can resist jus' fine.
mircea_popescu: so no, there won't be any turning of gurls into dudes. maybe the reverse, though it seems the process is kinda lossy.
mircea_popescu: this isn't bitwise.
asciilifeform: ain't that ~all blocks since year or so ago?
trinque: they have a particular face, don't they
asciilifeform: this isn't the only 1 on the net, either, i found several, they bought lispms, one took hundreds of photos of himself 'hipstering' near it, then one final one where it (??!) burned down ☟︎
asciilifeform: (i don't expect to ever run across another.)
asciilifeform: don't want to waste it.
mircea_popescu: but i'm sure this isn't in any sense manual ; just a very relevant site. notwithstanding no content and no links. ALGORITHMS!!!
mircea_popescu: apparently topless is perfectly acceptable where bitcoin isn't. just as long as letter from department of dorkitude.
mircea_popescu: what, mp will say "japanese -- men ; burmese -- dogs" ? maybe he cares, maybe he doesn't. what else you got.
mircea_popescu: now... wouldn't you wish to be their sultan ? because perhaps you've not read enough levy strauss & co to know about the function of the scapegoat in primitive societies. they certainly wouldn't mind BELIEVING that you do have infinite wealth. because they need someone for that role. and have. for a long time.
mircea_popescu: so the satrap of fuckistan got paid a gold coin and a golden caftan worth anothjer gold coin, and counted himself happy. whereas the daymio's men couldn't be paid anything upon the kamikaze, and so the4y rebelled.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-08 15:02 phf: unless you're an mp, you don't have a choice to tell fuck you to local fauna, and the whole "i can pay whatever" only plays it out well in shitty miami based tv shows
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't as if mr.t et al were using actual crypto themselves
mircea_popescu: aanyway, FG patch for trb wouldn't hurt.
asciilifeform: don't forget the elephant also, for her to ride.
asciilifeform: well that's what i am wondering, if you're entirely 'not mp', then should be prepared to pay orbital prices for 'white man' terraforming ? or this is overly pessimistic, and the local won't (why not?) charge you a kind of ad hoc 'laffer curve' maximum they think you can bear without going broke ?
phf: unless you're an mp, you don't have a choice to tell fuck you to local fauna, and the whole "i can pay whatever" only plays it out well in shitty miami based tv shows ☟︎
asciilifeform: (the difference is that you don't normally ~need~ a mast there)
asciilifeform: this aspect doesn't differ much from usa
phf: if you have a line of sight from your property to a direct satellite tower, you can get the owner to put an antena up for you, for sure. that doesn't require special licenses anywhere. of course putting up a mast on your site most likely requires government license and that's where you're going to get the bulk of rapage
asciilifeform: that ain't 'white man', that's 'live like american plankton'
phf: i don't think you can pay with money for the later
phf: cheap, and wot dependent. i can't figure out what the market forces are like, or possibly everything's really cheap, so there's no bottom.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-08#1623101 << yes, and since i just burned a bunch of cash on a vacation, i won't be bidding on any of these machines, but dks is selling an xl1201 and two macivories ☝︎
mod6: <+trinque> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-05#1008972 << mod6, is that why this patch did not make it in? << i don't think it was because of any such wedge. i think we held off because it was proposed that there might have been a better way to handle that through configuration files. it's all in the logs if you look in around the time that email was sent; december of '14. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he didn't show up under the default lamer nick (e.g., 'fromphuctor') so probably not this
mircea_popescu: alternatively random guy clicked a link, hasn't even noticed the tab among the symphony of tabs on his ie.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why it's such a big deal, i included all sorts of strange in the logs, what of it ?
trinque: I guess it wouldn't be the only "serious" gay men's club on earth.
trinque: no one can seriously claim the guy wearing steampunk goggles and going to conferences isn't LARPing in the grand american tradition of pretense to existing
trinque: couldn't find the log, but the other day mircea_popescu discussed that some pedo case's dismissal had very much to do with that the guy refused to LARP with them re: their importance.
mircea_popescu: the only difference between slavegirl in my household and usg employee is that a) i whip mine and b) after a while they are sensibly better at everything. the usg drones don't get whipped and don't improve.
mircea_popescu: don't ask me to explain what entertains teh public.
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, trb doesn't validate scripts in blocks. at. all. )
trinque: it may sadden those that don't yet know that open firmware was a dead simple forth nugget. i.e. in the sense that apple for a brief time meant dead simple.
trinque: no lets get rid of openfirmware; it doesn't x, y, and ...
asciilifeform: Framedragger: don't forget huawei.
Framedragger: isn't internet backbone basically juniper + cisco still? :(
asciilifeform: 'Apple seems to have taken version 1.38 of the Tiny Scheme project (available online, google it or check workshop output) and modified it a little. Most modifications are fixes for the most obvious bugs in the program: changing sprintf to snprintf and adding some more size checks but they have not fixed everything. In fact, they haven't even bothered keeping up with the Tiny Scheme project, which is now on version 1.41. Apple have al
davout: i really don't feel strongly about this, just thinking out loud
asciilifeform: davout: you wouldn't do this from wallet box
trinque: isn't in a block; may *never* be in a block
asciilifeform: davout: ~nobody gives half a shit about unconfirmed tx he didn't himself make
mircea_popescu: it doesn't store ~the mempool~ is all.
mircea_popescu: meh. wallet doesn't NOT store the chain. it's just stock trb.
mircea_popescu: davout wallet doesn't.