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mircea_popescu: much like a "press", it's a personal take on the lightcone as-it-is.
phf: i'm trying to remember what i used as reference
phf: ben_vulpes: well, what you're calling "varint" is called compact size in bitcoin source, and it's used exclusively as a size prefix for variable length lists <compact size><item 1><item 2><item 3>
phf: so it's up to reader to decide if it should return first octet as ~the number~ or read first octet and read a bunch of stuff after and return that as ~the number~
asciilifeform: you will never have to go to the town market to buy a new rhinoceros or new bulldog, you can cut the head of this one as many times as it takes.
ben_vulpes: i doubt it, as everything so far is little-endian, and only by convention reversed by early block explorers to show the zeros first or who the fuck knows i've never found a sensible explanation for reversing block hashes (and only block hashes!) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: obvs my thinger is broken in that the hash is wrong, but amusingly i get the sequence number as tx in index
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-19: [17:19:45] <mircea_popescu> give kid as much rope to hang self with as kid can carry.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your potential 'clean' and structurally-perfect philosophical pill will have same 0 effect as my 'dirty' one.
asciilifeform: but if instead 'practical' demonstration - can point to nearly any pile of shit in software land as proof
asciilifeform: depending on what kind of 'show' -- straight to (as mircea_popescu cited earlier) the good doctor godel
asciilifeform: i'd personally rather see folks explore directions that haven't been explored to agonizing death and conclusively mapped as dead.
mircea_popescu: give kid as much rope to hang self with as kid can carry.
mircea_popescu: it ~is~ as if all you wanna talk about is why he shouldn't do what he figures he wants to do. this isn't very bright, is it ?
asciilifeform: it isn't as if we tied him to a pole to keep him from going into it.
asciilifeform: (as in, with human, in a chair, looking at a screen)
asciilifeform: there is no such thing as sane prototype of insane concept.
trinque: this "denial as motivational mechanism" thing is *why* the esteemed lordship hates young men, ftr
mircea_popescu: yes. the "can't abstract broken software with other software" is a restatement of godel, "There may not exist specific algorithm A for any formal system F that includes statements of certain elementary mathematical truth as well as its own consistency so that A will create subsystem F' which is consistent and an homology of F"
asciilifeform: 'i'm not a transgendered goat, i dress up as one voluntarily'
mircea_popescu: you notice gossipd as specified is not related to implementation yes ?
gabriel_laddel: phf: something as simple as "network some computers together with ethernet and observe the sexpr from one draw some stuff on another" should work 100% of the time and be clearly documented.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160919/#85 << yes. as per the mitochondria example, merely not being there significantly bleeds it.
trinque: this "the system is icky and I will only learn enough about it to infect it with my own" is precisely the mentality that has *kept* lisp coders as refugees in foreign operating systems.
gabriel_laddel: (does not have to be netcat, happy to use anything so long as I can eventually migrate it into my lisp process)
gabriel_laddel: Am currently trying to send a string from A to B (must be over the ethernet cable) so as to make networked CLIM.
thestringpuller: it's all downhill for your crapply compy's as "updates" come out
asciilifeform: hat the PEGASUS surveillance malware was using completely new kernel vulnerabilities to takeover iOS devices and that Apple heard about these problems for the first time mid August 2016. Unfortunately after having reversed what kernel vulnerability has been used by the PEGASUS surveillance malware a completely different picture emerges: The kernel vulnerability known as CVE-2016-4656 was only still in the code because Apple patched C
mircea_popescu: well sure, i'm not specifically interested in the execution as a matter of detail.
mircea_popescu: but as i don't figure you much for the "bitch, you will clean my boots or wear a new kippah anchor point, right in your fucking forehead" type, i'd have expected you'd just left.
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1544387 << nothing near as exciting, i knocked an office toy (magnetic paperclip people) off a doctor's desk while proving a point, which in his book counted as "violence!!!"; then i left the meeting, because they were wasting my time. sufficient cause, in this wonderful medical system, for an involuntary commitment. as one friend interpreted: "pissed off the wrong people" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "for as another aspiring businessman once wrote before his life had become unmanageable" << nothing can happen before had. you mean before became ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "what dat" is a pregnant americanism, as for the second sentence, you need a rewrite to parse?
mircea_popescu: "What, as we say, dat? Could Uber be competing to own the vertical and horizontal in a space and failing to bite off an element of the business model that profitability is predicated on the ownership of?" << ben_vulpes can you say that again, but in a language, this time ?
mircea_popescu: but the bovine quality of the inhabitants of that land (btw, it's pretty clear by now north america destroys the soul : if you recall the spanish ran into the same useless pussies back cca 1500 as the marauding hordes would meet today. apparently it dun matter if redskin or allegedly paleskin - if you live in north america you turn into buffalo) has little to do with some sort of eternal logic of armsmastery.
mircea_popescu: i mean again as in you should have started with that ; and i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt pretending like you did and i didn't notice.
mircea_popescu: still, even thinking about it, both dagger and knife are insane weapons for the lone operator. unless with a group of friends, preferably sons of the people running the city as seein in italian renaissance for example, you're asking to be killed.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-16 19:47 pete_dushenski: 'I was dead-set on finding a house with a garbage disposal, or "garburator" as our sorry ("Sorry!") neighbors to the North call them,' << l0l! love the souble dorry. also, i've never lived in a house or condo with a garburator and may never.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-18 21:40 mircea_popescu: iirc in the early days of c-as-replacement-for-straight-asm it's exactly how compiler became a thing. "dude... fuck hardware."
mircea_popescu: iirc in the early days of c-as-replacement-for-straight-asm it's exactly how compiler became a thing. "dude... fuck hardware." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160918/#44 << ftr, you know relatives/friends are universally "up in arms" against girly's plan to "move to $distantlands to live as sexual slave of this guy". doesn't usually seem to do anything.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 19:51 mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#562 << fwiw there's no psychotic ouverture of bipolar. 1st case mostly sounds as usgistan "let's call it something"/
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 21:07 mircea_popescu: phf to answer the "why asm" thing : because if at issue is to obtain a correct f(lisp) so as it produces the same asm as gcc(c) then we'd better have a good example of target "same asm". his approach is judicious.
asciilifeform: 'As preferred customers, they often took Chapo's drugs without putting any money down, then paid the cartel only after they sold the product. This might seem unlikely, given the pervasive distrust in the underworld, but the narcotics trade is based on a robust and surprisingly reliable system of credit. In a sense, a cartel like Sinaloa has no choice but to offer a financing option, because few wholesale buyers have the liquidity to
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 22:29 mircea_popescu: anachronism is universally the sign of an uneducated mind - in the blogger's case because he fails to account for the obvious case that "what if the only reason nothing happened is BECAUSE those people were there then ?" ; but in the general case as displayed by lamport also. it is ridiculous to pretend to science, logic and reason, and then to turn around and tell a story of the past in the terms of "here's what's left once
mircea_popescu: "Responding to an email message is a simple operation with a simple mathematical description." ok, i'm out. fuckhead has not the first inkling as to what he's talking about.
mircea_popescu: astrology as a historical human behaviour eminently is NOT connected to ulterior developments such as astronomy, nor caused by them.
mircea_popescu: we reinterpret it strictly as an extension of the present".
mircea_popescu: anachronism is universally the sign of an uneducated mind - in the blogger's case because he fails to account for the obvious case that "what if the only reason nothing happened is BECAUSE those people were there then ?" ; but in the general case as displayed by lamport also. it is ridiculous to pretend to science, logic and reason, and then to turn around and tell a story of the past in the terms of "here's what's left once ☟︎
framedr_ghetto: [btw, just got an x220 for on-foot-travel mode / days. ssd + 9 cell battery => joy. it's a goddamn nice machine. keyboard before lenovo ruined it, etc.; cheapo i5 before it was downsized for "ultramobiles" / w/e. robust as fuck.]
mircea_popescu: phf to answer the "why asm" thing : because if at issue is to obtain a correct f(lisp) so as it produces the same asm as gcc(c) then we'd better have a good example of target "same asm". his approach is judicious. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and seeing how the "irc" side is vaguely slated for replacement by the end of the decade ; and it should be bouncer-mediated anyway, just plaintext-net works as an "irc"
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#656 << which, of course, was discussed in logs as well as http://trilema.com/2014/the-bicameral-world-in-one-room-the-city-dump-in-the-other-room-the-starred-restaurant-do-these-talk-to-each-other-read-on-to-find-out/
mircea_popescu: (male virginity, in this context, is resolved strictly through taking ownership of women and other things ; not through "having sex", especially if that's practiced as some sort of mutual play)
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:31 adlai: the definition isn't watertight yet, since it counts somebody who starves due to famine as crazy... but then again, mircea_popescu counts poor somalians as stupid, so ~shrug~
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#588 << they're just inept. crazy discusses the subjective reflection of reality ; not much else. can die as perfectly sane inept losers. the quoted south african ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-11#1500956 ) is a fine example of such. you can equally well be insane, a la arthur blair. "oh, i am an english socialist, though socialsm is necessarily the end of being english, and i'm aware of t ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:16 phf: psychotic episode, later diagnosed as bipolar after ~~1 year of weekly mushroom use. split personality after one mushroom use (guy believes that the second person inside of him is god). psychotic episode after weed/lsd combination. obviously all diagnosed and hospitalized at one point or another
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#562 << fwiw there's no psychotic ouverture of bipolar. 1st case mostly sounds as usgistan "let's call it something"/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: just as well could say "and when i was three i put toddling things aside and took my place as king of the walking"
mircea_popescu: (yes all bridges move. no such thing as a rigid bridge since many years nao)
asciilifeform: as the jet.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as it's a bridge, use it for car traffic rather than as a wind foil ; and pray the architect wasn't a whore fucking drunks. that's about all.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:16 phf: psychotic episode, later diagnosed as bipolar after ~~1 year of weekly mushroom use. split personality after one mushroom use (guy believes that the second person inside of him is god). psychotic episode after weed/lsd combination. obviously all diagnosed and hospitalized at one point or another
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#562 << let's instead talk of bridges. badly designed brigde will collapse in rush hour. or maybe not in rush hour. or maybe while closed for repairs, because heavy winds. or maybe just of old age. or perhaps for other reasons. however you model psychoactives - as cars, or as winds ; however you model other people being assholes, cars, winds - fact remains that the less it's used the less it
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:11 adlai: the more nuanced answer recognizes that i was hospitalized as a direct result of an argument, which would not have happened if i'd left the house with a sweater that morning. so... don't forget to bring a towel?
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#509 << thanks! and remember - September, the International Women Discarded As Garbage Day! do your bit to raise awareness!
phf: "dhs prevents countless terrorist attacks each year, which we are not at liberty to discuss as they will compromise ongoing and future investigations"
asciilifeform: linked as an arithmetical curio strictly.
mircea_popescu: phf more fucking importantly, it contains no hidden bits. such as "how did you build the square"
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160917/#348 << it's entirely unclear to me why you think the hieroglyph is noteworthy. sure, in the context of "let's draw hyeroglyphs", it's as good as many other alternatives. in the context of "let's describe basic trigonometry", it's not particularly useful. and you'll realise this the moment you break out of tedtalktardism "i'll rely on the margins of the box as drawn by magic hand for absolut
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 03:37 trinque: braindamaged thing uses the same command to init a drive as attach the softraid again next time
asciilifeform: they are ALL at least as bad as linked item.
phf: until i can get ~that~ to work rather. then i wouldn't be as pressed to get r8168 working or bust
phf: fwiw save-lisp of nic state and disk controller state is always a question of degree. either will have to be re-initialized in general, same way as it's careless and possibly meaningless to "save state of running lathe with a component"
asciilifeform: the realities, as often is, differ from the idealities.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was looking for something stictly in the following formula : as part of trying to execute subset X of task Y part of recognizable-primitive Z because so-and so, i came to the method k for theoretical reasons t1 throiugh tn ; attempting to implement it i encountered situation Q even through this makes no sense ; trying to adapt it i encountered exception Q.e1 which is contrary to design philosophy, and attempti
mircea_popescu: in lisp as discussed here, and generally, a lot of checks are to be performed. this happens to jive well with a matrix calling system for functions and the muiticore design of cpu. because you as lisp will just a) maintain a matrix of all checks to be perfromed as functions and b) keep them permagoing on all processorss. so this way, the cpu count influences internal parallelism in the os, and thus os speed ; not program spee
mircea_popescu: in c, no checks are performed and you're welcome to go fuck yourself. consequently, c exposes internals of cpu to user, so as to better hang himself. as seen eg in case of eulora client usage of one core and a trillion other places.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the tasks are here in my vierws overstated. linux had the tasks as hard as described, and it did break through, on shittier internet with fewer people milling about. lisp already has c code it can read for many of the drivers etc. this is major advantage. easier job to come 2nd.
mircea_popescu: be all this as it may, time to grow up and stop pretending adult lisp is anything but these two.
asciilifeform: no fundamental reason. just as railway bridge could, in principle, be glued from toothpicks.
asciilifeform: the other bit is, just as in the fpga thread, by the time anyone ~does~ spend the man-years, the requisite hardware is unavailable. see, e.g., 'movitz'.
mircea_popescu: there's the following parts : hardware, including memory, cpu, disk etc. we shall call this x86 for short, even if it's a longer story ; tll, which is a compiler. does exactly same as the gcc does in linux : takes lisp code, spits out bytecode ; and finally the lelnel, which does what the kernel does in linux.
mircea_popescu: suppose for this discussion it's already started ; else yes, you need a running machine to compile your image as we said.
mircea_popescu: same thing as trb, but with lisplisp instead of cc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: getting 10,001 pyramid slaves to hand-compile the compiler into asm with ~guaranteed same semantics~ as the original, isn't even a financial problem, it is problem with 'planet hasn't this number of people who can meaningfully participate'
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1543401 << sbcl codebase ~is~ cmucl codebase, so all the same people who wrote above wrote majority of sbcl. newman's work in adding sane bootstrapping is reproducable by doing early diffs and perhaps should come as vpatch on top of cmucl since it's particularly clean. but here's the thing, the way cmucl does bootstrapping is borrowed directly from a lisp machine, and breaks down precisely because the ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1543854 << novelized as stephenson's 'snow crash' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-09-17 06:16 phf: psychotic episode, later diagnosed as bipolar after ~~1 year of weekly mushroom use. split personality after one mushroom use (guy believes that the second person inside of him is god). psychotic episode after weed/lsd combination. obviously all diagnosed and hospitalized at one point or another
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-17#1543759 << Ty pdf. Kids, if you are going to do drugs, be smart about it. People will try and pass off all sorts of nonsense as LSD, and some of those compounds are unsafe(?). ☝︎
adlai: obviously there are exceptions in environments where speech is impossible (language barrier, noise club, etc) but i'm gonna bbl as well, reviewing math in anticipation of next month's classes
adlai: well, job. but it happened, and lasted for about as long as their money did.
trinque: or we would be counting authors as madmen too
adlai: in fact i basically equate sanity with 'more like housewife', with the latter defined as in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-08-2015#1255364, so i'd say that once you get sane enough, you're pretty stupid. ☝︎
trinque: adlai: a brainputer behaving as though false inputs are present is crazy.
trinque: wtf is the point of words but to model the world as usefully as possible
adlai: trinque: i don't think of this as mind-body duality at all. a better analogy would be the phase of some matter. if you cool it enough, it seems solid; zoom in and you see it's still moving, but not enough to break out of formation.
adlai: the definition isn't watertight yet, since it counts somebody who starves due to famine as crazy... but then again, mircea_popescu counts poor somalians as stupid, so ~shrug~
trinque: there is no fucking such creature as something which believes falsehoods and whose actions are not impacted causally by them
adlai: i respect alice's belief that her creator is dead, to the same degree that i'd respect somebody's belief in reincarnation, or resurrection, or transubstantiation. words have meaning, beliefs can be false, but you don't have to act on false beliefs. i'd count somebody who's physical actions are in touch with consensus reality as non-crazy, by the "sufficiently in touch with consensus reality to not die by