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mircea_popescu: rather that we manage to will a coherent approximation of reality into existence. because it's what we're doing, yes, and we need all these complex tools to keep it from becoming either self contradictory, disjointed or else derealized.
mircea_popescu: esthlos the problem is that it's neither dense nor sparse. and i dunno how we can proceed. moreover, i suspect goedel says we can not proceed.
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER they do exactly the same in this field of representation. MUCH MORE so, exponentially rather than proportionally when compared to the dragonfly, people sort and select through utterly staggering piles of alternative constructs.
mircea_popescu: the thing with that is, people obviously don't fly about the room doing 100 body lengths a second while catching bugs and jumping right out of inept frog's mouth all cool as shit.
mircea_popescu: not dense, but very large. the problem with it is that it's not dense.
mircea_popescu: esthlos you ever read the discussion of the dragonfly's brain ?
mircea_popescu: omfg only a hundred times explicitly ? wink wink drudge drudge.
mircea_popescu: protestants can uprise all they want for all the good it'll do them.
mircea_popescu: esthlos there's no other approach available besides interpretation. there's no some way to "read the true reading" in the manner you can ingurgitate an apple.
mircea_popescu: (and by "select group" above i meant "group of threads/"ideal objects sorted in trees" more properly speaking. not groups of people. this sadly isn't at all evident from context, but i caught it on re-read. half the time though, it IS "evident" on the basis of cousins six removed)
mircea_popescu: hard for the not-exactly-ungifted peole in the very question, first of all. because well...
mircea_popescu: which is why it's so HARD to ~correctly~ identify actual cases of utter breakage in the sense of "alf is an assumptive idiot" or "mp is millitantly ignorant" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: the problem of indirection layers is directly an equivalent of this, because "what is this conversation REALLY about" permits in principle an open ended reskinning of every conversation. which is somethingt that happens all the fucking time, because we CAN discuss chess in terms of girl-on-girl on-cam action, and half the time we also do.
mircea_popescu: most [important] conversations are ongoing for many years. they basically happen in this select group of complex interplay.
mircea_popescu: most (private) attempts to do what you're doing i know of died the death of the look-behead.
mircea_popescu: and when followed, render the logs exponentially larger, because wait a fucking minute, is THAT implied the other implication of item from three days ago ?
mircea_popescu: well, alf's oft peculiar assumption set isn't what i had in mind when discussing information density. but instead, two aspects : on one hand, that the amount of learned refrences is staggering even for academic discourse (the academitards cheat, by selecting a very narrow set of possible reference points and agreeing on it in advance) ; and then the more one knows, the more things unfold, exactly in the manner i end up watchi
mircea_popescu: apparently i don't even need to run it for this judgmental box to have an oppinion on my skillz.
mircea_popescu mashed kbd apparently when pressing yes, test.sh got saved as test.sht, system couldn't magically find script anymoar, 5 minute haphazard luls ensued.
mircea_popescu is not even going to ask what this overselling does to his insurance for the other machine :D
mircea_popescu: we can always talk tomorrow about what you wanna do with Dulap!
mircea_popescu: oh, you mean talk tomorrow. lol. sure, dun worry about it.
mircea_popescu: that's why it'll work fine. seems to me it creates a symbol when asked, but only checks once !!v'd. since i've not done that yet, it didn't matter you hadn't yet !!v'd atthye time i !!pay-i'd.
mircea_popescu: if i understand the mechanics correctly it'll work fine.
mircea_popescu: "So this week's post is late." has such a ring of familiarity about it.
mircea_popescu: let's see if we can get you sorted out with a whole coin :D
mircea_popescu: lol. aaanyways, i've no problem with the three cents, go ahead an' invoice.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall, did you ever include the rationale, past "ben and i worked out" ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 go ahead an' invoice. i recall now seeing something like this b4 but no invoice either.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: aaand in today's ancientry, "Uite-asa se scurge timpul, si Romania progreseaza, incet-incet, ca melasa, pe lungul drum al prefacerii intru devenire, a construirii unei societati a viitorului, in care omul nou sa traiasca vesnic si sa nu faca nimic cu toata vesnicia aia."
mircea_popescu: in fairness, that's more in the vein of "well... i got this here chunk, but hard to tell what it actually is, bring me a selection of hammers to hit it with see if it sings."
mircea_popescu: but yes, if you've got a competent spy you're not going to make her a competent kbd monkey -- for approximately the same reason people don't usually eat their children. acceptable substitutes for flesh can usually be found.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i expect it was more along the lines of "you manage yours, i'll manage mine, tyvm."
mircea_popescu: "use the log" doesn't just mean, read here. use it, as the tool it is, in the sense of permit referentiality.
mircea_popescu: that's the overawing important point -- the reason we are so damned good today has a lot to do with what lispers call repl and biologists call genetics. if you can get a recurring loop going you'll probably win.
mircea_popescu: also has the advantage that it puts the patters right under your eyes, so to speak. you get organisational audit for free with it.
mircea_popescu: possibly have a file with all the stuff you want to send people (because this process of -- think of it -- do something about it! has a lot of merit to it). but if you just >> alf.txt and then once a day or once a week or w/e >> gpg -aer alf and >> p.bvulpes.com then you get it all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i saw two the past hour and i recall at leasta coupla yest which is why i said.
mircea_popescu: "one single interrupt is worth 15 minutes of labour" or how did that tale go.
mircea_popescu: you know, far be it from me to hassle you folk about your fine organisation ; but it occurs to me, on the butress of experience, that you're running a very wasteful process in that every.single.god.damned.thing produces an interrupt. there should be some queues and some batching, you can't ping someone every.single.time.anything.occurs. yes ?
mircea_popescu: if i take
http://trilema.com/2018/it-came-out/ cutie for a sea trip and it has the misfortune of coming to life 500 miles out, it'll still fly over the ocean looking. and so must you, because until you're dead you don't know you're dying.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the nigerians were looking for a stupid. there's a fundamental difference between self-limiting and self-expanding things ; and i propose the nigerians aren't a relevant model at all.
mircea_popescu: less than 1% of 1% of the material of interest to the ox is of interest to pieris rapae ; but the field provides for all.
mircea_popescu: as the cattle goes browsing on the pasture, so does the white butterfly go looking for cabages.
mircea_popescu: but whether you can or you can't, you don'tr know until you try.
mircea_popescu: if i can select one usable nude floorwasher in 250k imperial "accounts", then probably so could you* (*conceivably, you don't want nude floorwashers, but ~necessarily~ it doesn't matter what you want, the foregoing applies)
mircea_popescu: moreover, these are different items. the chick with the emoji and
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837516 are not the same. i don't expect you to care about the difference, but i do. to me it's meaningful, and in the end that's all it takes, yes ? exactly mirror case of the mats discussion above.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider eg that pizarro doesn't need to undertake the (significant, and unbounded) cost of writing "code of conduct" or "terms of service" or any of the other nonsense. things have changed. nude bitcoin is dangerous in the sense discussed in 2012, but bitcoin-as-currency-of-the-republic eminently usable today.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, accurate glyph for lol would have to include sound" "so ?" "so we can't do that" "you can't do any of the other shits you're doing either..." "but a limit must be drawn!" "no, motherfucker. a limit must be drawn alphabet existed already. you're the no limits may be drawn crowd. fucking hang by your own petard, lol is a face emitting sound as glyph!"
mircea_popescu: motherfuckers managed to "make the LOL" have tears in eyes.
mircea_popescu: well... afaik also. but it's your box, so it's your call. shall we find out ?
mircea_popescu: i don't suspect she'd be in the slightest malicious ; but i also don't expect she ever controlled a box. for all i know it's an open relay.
mircea_popescu: cuz i thought the idea was that there's some security concerns.
mircea_popescu: i mean, "my computer was updating" level of windowsity, 0 expectation of any kind of clean process.
mircea_popescu: i might get this inept slut a blog though... what'd pizarro think about giving my stupid whores slots on the mp-wp megaserver ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu will unrate, i suspect the point is made and i really don't give that much of a shit.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would i. strikes me a lot like "breaking up". who the fuck does that, what, i'm monogamous now ?!
mircea_popescu: the puritan low-volume-comms thing is generally a losing strategy, both socially and personally, but ESPECIALLY so here.
mircea_popescu: "i am the guy who was going to go to the republica oriental but then went to rural oklahoma instead and 2018 is the year i explained nothing about this on my blog".
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-24#1837476 << more generally, actually : that you're so fucking private about what's doubtless a public point of concern, namely the strange case of the conversion of a member of the republic's lordship smells to me of a colossal wasted opportunity.
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