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asciilifeform: why need fb
asciilifeform: so looking to put colour emacs in there or wat
asciilifeform: ( if yer writing even so much as a tetris, even on dos box you needed a bit more than simply fb to do it without 'tearing', you need some way to insta-flip the 'pages' , possibly ioctl ? )
asciilifeform: if you have a working /dev/fb0 you can theoretically have x tho, neh
asciilifeform: aaa
asciilifeform: ( or maybe was only the 3d gpu that wasnt, i dun recall )
asciilifeform: iirc the display subsystem was never fully reversed yet
asciilifeform: have nfi how well it worx and what exactly it takes to get a picture
asciilifeform: i admit that i've never actually plugged a display into rk
asciilifeform: ok makes sense
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: if yer running in kernel, you dun need mmap call, you can simply set the address of your array to be the magic iron addr directly
asciilifeform: ( would specify the iron address, and run as root ?? )
asciilifeform: i'm not sure how one would go about using mmap for frame buffer
asciilifeform: keep in mind that horsecocks has hardcoded constants in it that may or may not work on arm ( per bvt's dig )
asciilifeform: i expect if you bake sumthing on 'horsecocks', it will be simple to rewrite on new item, will simply shed a few lines of coad
asciilifeform: ( uses system.address internally to turn yer mmap into a 100% transparent 'as if you had declared it on stack' variable that is backed to/from disk via mmap )
asciilifeform: phf: the 'horsecocks' one requires pointerism to be enabled; the new one does not ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is on hold pending resolution of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-26#1866266 ( and is taking back seat to ffa currently ) ☝︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: the early ver that was actually posted is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-06#1666647 . however there's a clean/rewritten one, in a 90% state of completion, not yet genesis'd ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'the bezzle' is prolly as old as all of culture.
asciilifeform: ( and will add, it aint as if today's ameritards are less credulous. simply today better corralled, today's hotel owner will equally idiotically invest in usg bonds, rather than tesla's trunk, is all )
asciilifeform: ( i do not, tbf, know whether this legend is troo, but given the credulous people of the time and the man's talent for self-pr, i can easily buy it )
asciilifeform: there's also the 'is it really ~the~ tapes' aspect. as in the old thing with the gold bars that nobody wants to drill for tungsten. consider for instance how nikola tesla was able to live in the waldorf for years, with the loan collateral being a trunk containing 'great invention of much dangerous power'. when died, turned out to contain a whetstone bridge. ☟︎
asciilifeform: *star of movie
asciilifeform: tlp i suspect has the full dirt re subj. i.e. when you have the trunk, you can carry on thinking yer the 'start of movie', but if sumbody else builds , then somehow 'not star' no moar
asciilifeform: whichever way -- there's apparently a set of people who find it moar satisfying to sit on a trunk of rotting tapes, than to see the idiocy of computing 1990-present cured
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i suspect there's some http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1872899 in the psycho-mix also ☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun see much diff b/w the bolix gnomes and the 40 y.o. chix who 'waiting for right man' to pop cherry, as pictured also in mircea_popescu's essays
asciilifeform: except that one doesn't publish for the swine, you publish for the 3 d00dz who actually have with what to make sense.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there's at least a little bit of the healthy dynamic where 'why should i throw the pearls before swine', iirc mircea_popescu expanded on this
asciilifeform: 'pour some mars into the boiling pot of jupiter, and promise not to reveal the seekrit to the profane'
asciilifeform: it's almost like folx revert to the condition of the alchemists when given half a chance.
asciilifeform: gnomism is almost like an infectious disease. i still can't properly fathom the behaviour of all those folx who had the alpha genera cd for decade+ and didn't put on piratebay.
asciilifeform: ~somebody~ -- has. some http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1863759 type. i dun usually believe in 'losts'. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the disk dun include any sores tho, i checked.
asciilifeform: yea that page's been exactly like-that since at least '06 when i 1st saw it
asciilifeform: so i guess it's sorta like cadr vs 36xx
asciilifeform: interesting
asciilifeform: ( btw mircea_popescu , consider the sheer mindfuck, the 1st and still to date greatest mechanical algebratron was not only written in usg nuke establishment, but ~openly published~ -- very diff people in '70s )
asciilifeform: ( incidentally just like wolfram's 'mathematica' in the initial versions )
asciilifeform: the way i understand it, bolix macsyma was largely a free ride on the public dollar one
asciilifeform: just how much moar was in the bolix ?
asciilifeform: what do you mean? i have the u.s. doe one right here
asciilifeform: i dun expect that ~this~ exists anywhere outside of indiana jones warehouse, no
asciilifeform: a
asciilifeform: i thought it was specifically re ivory
asciilifeform: in phf's find
asciilifeform: waitasec what doc are we then speaking of
asciilifeform: ( along with hundreds of PALs and GALs, which ~each~ could take several hrs of probe just to extract the trooftable , plus fucktonne of board track )
asciilifeform: unlike, e.g., 3620, where i remember no fewer than 9 massive pga things
asciilifeform: literally erry other ic on the 'ivory 3' board is stock ( save possibly for a GAL or 2 )
asciilifeform: i wouldn't consider ever to put floatism in a new design, but for compat with the vintage soft one would need it ( fortunately unlike 'ivory' the weitek is documented to death, i even have a copy of the datashit from ancient ru stash )
asciilifeform: ( back in the days when cult of 'flops' were going strong... )
asciilifeform: floating point gizmo
asciilifeform: afaik it's the same item
asciilifeform: but much less than the old liquishit
asciilifeform: even ivory had a buncha similar ugly, iirc it still used external weitek thing (same as in yours and mine 486) for arithmetics
asciilifeform: ( if you were to start today with two tonnes of 74xxx, you would end up with something that looks quite a bit like cadr )
asciilifeform: cadr was a horrendous thing because designed around two tonnes of 74xxx
asciilifeform: whole point of that particular dig of asciilifeform's, was to see if maybe possible ~not~ to go back to cadr, and maybe we lost only 20 yrs and not 30
asciilifeform: 3600 i did not find very interesting, hence why i traded it, lol
asciilifeform: aite, ty
asciilifeform: and any boards it was featured in
asciilifeform: ideally would like errything pertaining to that ic
asciilifeform: phf: invoice asciilifeform if it ends up costing sumthing.
asciilifeform: would like to get hands on that thing tho, at some pt
asciilifeform: i'm even ok with a roll of b&w fujifilm, if too big for xerox.
asciilifeform: ( addr is in top-left of 1st photo of mircea_popescu's http://trilema.com/2017/fuckgoats-unboxing-of ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: if the thing is a paper scroll etc, feel free to xerox and post it to my postbox if that's easier than scans
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform gently prods phf re the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-09#1870461 cheops pyramid ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: it displays ok on my box
asciilifeform: ( already 3 of 8 floors have 0 dead tree )
asciilifeform: i sometimes still go to the local uni lib, but it too is going down this road
asciilifeform: it's pretty much dead in anglostan too ( they've become bum hangouts, with winblowz public toilets where the b00kz used to be )
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: the street where the flea market ?
asciilifeform: even if not, i saw plenty of quite well stocked oldb00k shops
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: do they have libraries over in BingoBoingostan ?
asciilifeform liked g. g. marquez, and in fact sometimes pictures castle mircea_popescustein sitting in marquezian landscape
asciilifeform: this also ( read cervantes yet ? )
asciilifeform: https://www.abelard.org/e-f-russell.php << 31337 w4r3z for BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo apparently fan of efr... pick up any of his other items ?
asciilifeform: ( about our fyootoor machine, if i live long enuff, rather than z80 )
asciilifeform: but i'd like to write the proper one, lol
asciilifeform: eh it aint actually that great. turns out was much better in my memory than in life. ☟︎
asciilifeform: and it was moar about the chipset than z80 per se, now that i revisit it
asciilifeform: ave1: c. d. smith, 'the zx spectrum ula: how to design a microcomputer' btw
asciilifeform: neato!
asciilifeform: how's things otherwise, ave1 ?
asciilifeform: ( iirc i read it as a scan, rather than actual b00k )
asciilifeform: presently title escapes me
asciilifeform: ave1: i'ma have to dig and come back to you on that
asciilifeform: ( incl some of the comments i apparently missed on the 1st coupla passes )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1872832 << btw i enjoyed rereading this ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( and later x60 is pretty much a physically shrunken version of that box, with slightly faster cpu )
asciilifeform: so anyffing that actually fit in 1024x768, rendered ok, it was perfect match
asciilifeform: oh it was in old times, i did not have external screen then
asciilifeform: ( iirc was 1st lappy i ever owned that had enuff horse to reliably play avi )