asciilifeform: http://i.imgur.com/G3hgX.jpg

asciilifeform: phun phact: fluorinert dissolves oxygen very readily - you can breathe under it.

asciilifeform: people with infinite money use Fluorinert (as seen in Cray II.) $500/liter or so.

asciilifeform: and all exposed contacts will be coated. no upgrades.

asciilifeform: well, immersion oil sucks. you will burst electrolytic caps

asciilifeform: impeller pumps designed for aquarium, yes.

asciilifeform: 'water grinds even stone.'

asciilifeform: i had cpu water for a few years, '01-04. lost quite a few boards to slow leaks, despite first-class seals.

asciilifeform: don't pop the vial indoors.

asciilifeform: methyl mercaptane, right. you can buy it easily enough.

asciilifeform: you will almost certainly discover that your machine leaks.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: suggested experiment: add to your water tank, a few drops of the 'perfume' used to scent natural gas.

asciilifeform: benkay: hardware is not a magic pill. it must have a purpose. consider what parts of your current setup strike you as questionable.

asciilifeform: this could happen at some point.

asciilifeform: what you're probably thinking of (or what you will think of, if you think long enough) is: secure terminal. complete with keyboard and display. ☟︎

asciilifeform: still curious what you had in mind.

asciilifeform: benkay: ssh dongle?

asciilifeform: there ought to be a naughty bitmap or two in that Gb.

asciilifeform: no reason this one should play out any differently

asciilifeform: nah, only a handful of KGB brass offed themselves in the '90s

asciilifeform: bunch of 'cubesats' in there, too: http://www.cubesat.org/index.php/missions/upcoming-launches/134-l39-launch-alert

asciilifeform: better than fiction: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/12/new-us-spy-satellite-features-world-devouring-octopus/

asciilifeform: funnily, they've almost pulled this off: 'string theory'

asciilifeform: here we go. ftp://www.eteka.info/10000/61edf0a0aa0f9d0de6730758d5ef2c98.pdf

asciilifeform: see poul anderson's 'brainwave.'

asciilifeform: can't even begin to imagine how much nonsense would vapour away if people understood basic maths.

asciilifeform: this ought to be an actual publication.

asciilifeform: that's straight out of undergrad statistics exam.

asciilifeform: 'safe to use.' invites the question, use for what.

asciilifeform: *PETA

asciilifeform: wtf is [PETE]? trades in cat skins?

asciilifeform: see also: http://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/31/us/while-barbie-talks-tough-g-i-joe-goes-shopping.html

asciilifeform: http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/21/business/company-news-mattel-says-it-erred-teen-talk-barbie-turns-silent-on-math.html

asciilifeform: benkay: '...let's go shopping.'

asciilifeform: but at least they don't pollute academia with pixie dust and lead netgeeks on with nonsense science...

asciilifeform: the folks selling literal golden toilets to arabian royalty make the same kind of money

asciilifeform: or 'find which lolcat you are from yer genome'

asciilifeform: and we get 'nanotech', 'private manned space', etc

asciilifeform: rich americans must be parted from their dough, so bright chaps line up

asciilifeform: this is nanotech (and silicon valley crapfest in general)

asciilifeform: sometimes the whole thing catches fire in a glorious inferno

asciilifeform: (they of course remember to bring augers, if it doesn't 'accident' that day)

asciilifeform: villagers line up, with buckets, and collect oil that 'accidentally' leaks

asciilifeform: in the 3rd world, they 'know what to do' with oil pipelines

asciilifeform: re: nanotech, the whole story:

asciilifeform: dyson, then tesla... when do we get 'heaviside corp.' and what will it make? high-tech nano fridge magnets?

asciilifeform: if i ever strike lucky, i'll write 'fairycad.' create magical gadgets, just need pixie dust fabricator. ☟︎

asciilifeform: kanzure: wake us up when there's something to attach it to

asciilifeform: perhaps this wasn't mp's motivation in making the choice, but it is a fact nonetheless

asciilifeform: point is, bandwidth is cheap, until it isn't.

asciilifeform: you'll be thankful for the absent css, when you're driving your mpex via telex, from submarine.

asciilifeform: pyros may be disappointed in cardano, nothing flammable there.

asciilifeform: refer to the (admittedly slightly obsolete) spec on mp's site.

asciilifeform: nothing else kept there

asciilifeform: in cardano? key lives in its own chip

asciilifeform: Vexual: ?

asciilifeform: if you want physical zap, i recommend uv laser diode over a windowed eeprom.

asciilifeform: dub: nope, but you can make that one if you like.

asciilifeform: 'didja hear, he took out an ad in the new york fishwrap one day in '11, every fifth letter...'

asciilifeform: there'll be tales of 'buried' btc one day. ☟︎

asciilifeform: (or confide in someone as to where to dig)

asciilifeform: buried goodies tend to result from folks who got clobbered before they could dig them up. ☟︎

asciilifeform: the whole reason we have the legends of buried treasures is: people who did not take care of their bequests properly.

asciilifeform: otherwise you'll be like Captain Kidd, throwing an enciphered map to the peanut gallery before the noose tightens

asciilifeform: in general, the time to do transfers is before you're on the gallows

asciilifeform: different problem, different tools.

asciilifeform: in general, whoever has the keys has the goods

asciilifeform: sure, give them an unzapped unit.

asciilifeform: there are only two defences against 'rubber hose cryptoanalysis' - 1) don't be taken prisoner or 2) zap button.

asciilifeform: more of a feat than one might think at first.

asciilifeform: usable, but empty.

asciilifeform: or even if you just like the idea of a usb drive that can be irrevocably nuked with a button press in a second or so.

asciilifeform: benkay: depends if you care for modern crypto or not.

asciilifeform: that's one piece.

asciilifeform: my fave was the wag who asked, 'why aren't those cardanos hashing yet, hah'

asciilifeform: gimmeallyermoney. there, done.

asciilifeform: benkay: S.NSA will be very boring, right up until it won't. 'nothing to see here, move along...'

asciilifeform: or, for the truly exotic-minded, sonobuoys

asciilifeform: for the cost of one microsat, one could bring out a thousand balloons that bob about in the atmosphere for years.

asciilifeform: consider the life of warez. are there bittorrent nodes in orbit? protocol obfuscation is nearly always the cheaper and more practical pill.

asciilifeform: if you just want to relay bits in one direction to some remote jungle, there are commercial sats with no authentication (!)

asciilifeform: in any scenario where said node is worthwhile, it becomes a central point of failure unlike any other.

asciilifeform: it is also worth considering why exactly one wants a btc node in orbit.

asciilifeform: with a strict cube, use swing panels; five facing the sun (swing open in response to voltage readings from each, with max being the center of the clover) and one arse end with no panel, for the downlink.

asciilifeform: (ever think about bearings/oil in vacuum)

asciilifeform: hence nitinol

asciilifeform: considerably longer life if you avoid rotating joints

asciilifeform: (use the sun itself for the heat source)

asciilifeform: one could probably rig something clever with nitinol wire

asciilifeform: would have to be inflatable (mylar) or somesuch.

asciilifeform: correct.

asciilifeform: slats open on the sunlit side

asciilifeform: consider a mirrored (on the inside) sphere with controllable slats.

asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if you can run any kind of btc node (in reasonably real time) on 4w.

asciilifeform: which is 'spherical horse' territory.

asciilifeform: and this assumes that you don't need any power to run the electronics on board

asciilifeform: might be able to get more if you charge a cap and transmit in bursts.

asciilifeform: at full sunlight, ideal position...

asciilifeform: ok 4W.

asciilifeform: damn, left out a 0