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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well even with bots the patriarchy must be established
trinque: shinohai: yes but otherwise it wouldn't have had room for the ;;more
shinohai: trinque: thx I just always found it annoying griible required a ;;more when it all fits in 2 lines fine.
mircea_popescu: you know this "you are very welcome daddy" think keeps reminding me of this ... i don't recall, maybe a succession of sms captions ? where a clearly competent streetwalker (of the sort that lives on street most days, checks into motel now and again) was assuring some random dude that she doesn't mind his friend beating her up.
asciilifeform: they are solely of 'harem' (vs 'forum') type.
mircea_popescu: so - yes, there'd be applications where time isn't the criterion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would be a terrible application for it, for 'high assurance' you want the MINIMUM TRANSISTOR COUNT
asciilifeform: example of an actual dead end that i had to explore the hard way.
mircea_popescu: it was either horrible example made by dysfunctional brain ; or else deliberate attemt to spoke conversation wheel.
mircea_popescu: we';re not discussing 6052 here. stop moving things around.
asciilifeform: you'd like the thing to be the size of a breadbox ?
mircea_popescu: if i know they take a month i just start a month early.
asciilifeform: because the thing didn't have a multiplier.
mircea_popescu: i literally do not care if preparing the signed copies of warrants for s.mg takes a minute or a month.
asciilifeform: i have not succeeded in coming up with a 6502 rsatron that manages to generate a key before the battery (of any reasonable size) and the owner's patience give way.
mircea_popescu: yes, there is. i just gave you a few.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i must point out that there is NO application where 'time does not matter'. for instance,
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/06/the-revolutions-just-keep-revolving-dont-they/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The revolutions just keep revolving don’t they.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck ? no chick wants a gf ; esp not a shitty emulation in male hardware.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why the fuck this error is so common, but it dominates anglosphere. "white knight" = dude who is trying not to be a good dude, but to be the best chick he could possibly be.
mircea_popescu: nevermind the $random-arbitrary-application.
mircea_popescu: life lesson here for you alf : you start, anything, by doing what it does well. NOT by trying and failing to do what other things do well.
asciilifeform: it has hard time spec.
asciilifeform: trinque: it does add up to '0 chance of running bitcoin' tho.
mircea_popescu: there is a clear market in high assurance hardware to do things such as signing, encrypting and bitcoin payments where time is not a concern.
trinque: none of that is "no"
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: There were no matching configuration variables.
mircea_popescu: i dunno who authorized this approach of "try to symbolics-clone ibm at" ; but it wasn't me.
asciilifeform: i was able to make 10baseT ethernet meet timing spec without using xilinxisms
mircea_popescu: yes ? nature lives with half second seeks for some data transfer applications.
asciilifeform: sdram was not, unfortunately, the only device in the shitlist either.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is willing to live with 500nsec seeks ?
trinque: vs up the wall
mircea_popescu: sure. but the idea here is to build an upgraded symbolics machine ; not to build a competitor for current intel offerings.
trinque: there's really no arguing for going up the stairs is there
asciilifeform: and signal here does not travel in vacuum, either.
asciilifeform: and i actually have a board with that part on.
mircea_popescu: Alliance Memory AS6C8008-55ZIN SRAM Memory, 8Mbit, 2.7 → 5.5 V, 55ns 44-Pin TSOP << available from ~$5 for orders over 2k.
asciilifeform: and the real boojum is that it isn't even AVAILABLE in more than 8 or so MB per die.
asciilifeform: but go and convince anyone to use a box with 2MB.
mod6: yeah, alright, i'll take a look.
trinque: all roads lead to make 50 billion dollars, then cry as alf says it's not enough ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it doesn't HAVE to use sdram though does it.
asciilifeform: and we had at least half a dozen threads, e.g.,
asciilifeform: mod6: i have entire www dedicated to it.
mircea_popescu: if someone made a fpga-based clone of the symbolics machine that'd prolly get a bunch of people to wet their pants.
mod6: so forget that maybe.. just wondering if anyone has tried this before?
mod6: yeah, im not super clear on the whole thing.
trinque: ^ was an endeavor to bolt modern disk to the thing iirc
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 01:47 asciilifeform: i actually spent the first ~6 mo. after i bought the lisp machine, trying to rig up, with fpga, a mechanism to read the fucking disk
mod6: or is that what you were kinda talking about here, but ran ut of time: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455140 ☝︎
mod6: alf, you ever attempt anything like this?
mod6: there are some projects out there seems like, in this vein.
mod6: so yesterdays discussion got me thinking about a lisp machine (lisp-cpu) with verilog on a fpga
mircea_popescu: i suspect this might become a meme.
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-06: [19:34:58] <asciilifeform> A T E N C A O
Framedragger: right, off to watch film, will monitor things.
trinque can count to five :D
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-06: [00:00:01] <asciilifeform> again who the fuck needs a rustbucket that costs a dollar per metre to move??!
Framedragger: it won't do the numbering if it's just a single line, like http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:1/to:1#1
trinque: the numbering at the front is probably unnecessary.
Framedragger: multiple lines - will output up to 5 because spamming is bad: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:629/to:650#629 asdfasdfasdf
Framedragger: multiple lines - will output up to 5 because spamming is bad: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160830/from:629/to:650#629 asdfasdfasdf
Framedragger: much thanks trinque
a111: Logged on 2016-09-05 14:52 deedbot: Framedragger rated scriba 3 << An instance of a bot I wrote and manage. I trust it with log history, but if it becomes sentient and starts asking for money, do beware.
Framedragger: on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-05#1534300 , could someone from l1 please rate scriba? it should then self-voice with deedbot if it detects no voice ☝︎
asciilifeform is lelling over getting usg 'red team 3111111113333337 s333k00000r1t1 job!1111' spam in mailboxes that have been idle for eons
asciilifeform: which was the 1 paragraph appearing earlier.
asciilifeform: beyond the statement given by usg.
asciilifeform: i will add that i have not succeeded in turning up any public record of what the vuln actually ~was~
asciilifeform: anybody got a printed, cdrom, or otherwise offline archive of 'CVE' they're willing to swear by ..?
asciilifeform: (or, alternatively, whoever plays their role!11111)
mircea_popescu: this is what, the... 5th ? case where "she reported" things she never reported ?
asciilifeform: eh, i met a buncha these poor sods in the flesh
mircea_popescu: "oh coincidentally, this name that keeps being dredged up by usg assets as supposed primary source ; which never EVER checks out"
asciilifeform: https://www.cis.upenn.edu/~nadiah << hey phf, consider dropping by there and see..?
mircea_popescu: any reason TO SUPPOSE SHE DOES ?
asciilifeform: any reason to suppose the chick doesn't exist ?
asciilifeform: incidentally the cited piece, 'minding your p's and q's', henninger et al ( https://factorable.net/weakkeys12.conference.pdf ) makes 0 mention of tropos.
asciilifeform: anybody got a tropos whatever ?
asciilifeform: i'd like to see the stuxnet-style non-fixing fix they pushed out.
asciilifeform: itical manufacturing concentrated in the United States. This vulnerability can be exploited remotely.'
asciilifeform: etwork router product line. By impersonating the device, an attacker can obtain the credentials of administrative users and perform a Man-in-the-Middle (MitM) attack. Tropos has validated the vulnerability and produced an embedded operating software update that mitigates the reported vulnerability. According to Tropos, products are deployed across several sectors including the transportation, energy, water, emergency services, and cr
asciilifeform: 'This advisory provides mitigation details for a vulnerability that impacts Tropos Wireless Mesh Routers. An independent research group composed of Nadia Heninger (University of California at San Diego), Zakir Durumeric (University of Michigan), Eric Wustrow (University of Michigan), and J. Alex Halderman (University of Michigan) identified an insufficient entropy vulnerabilitya in SSH key generation in Tropos Networks’s wireless n
mircea_popescu: antic community and in the Western Hemisphere."
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone is curious where this nonsense starts, see eg point 2 of the "basic, specific positions" : "2. The vital need of our foreign policy is new political creativity—leading and inspiring the formation, in all great regions of the free world, of confederations, large enough and strong enough to meet modern problems and challenges. We should promptly lead toward the formation of such confederations in the North Atl
asciilifeform: in that sense, not, aha.
mircea_popescu: also in the news, cancer has no organs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform these two items are not distinct.
mircea_popescu: the guy was not shot. this is supposedly a country.
asciilifeform: it is not part of the 'monkey' net that includes 'corporate sites' etc.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : when nixon and rockefeller were negotiating the treaty of fifth avenue, nixon's / gop's "platform committee" was in a hotel in chicago. they were on the phone for four hours ; but midway, as midnight came by, THE HOTEL OPERATOR PULLED THE PLUG AND WENT HOME.
asciilifeform: tropos is part of the 'vertical and horizontal' thing, in the sense where it is one of two dozen or so 'partners' for making sure that usg knows daily output, in millilitres, of oil well in venezuela, or that if texas breaks away from the ussa, it will not have working sewage pumps, etc.
asciilifeform: (their test plant ?)
asciilifeform: prolly where the most tropos per /16 block on planet3...
mircea_popescu: maybe that's where the cosmic rays are.
asciilifeform: btw, the 5 tropos boxen poppes so far appear to all be in athens, ohio.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160906/from:536/to:536#536 << eh fuck 'em, let them read the log like everyone else.
mircea_popescu: but can they accelerate in apprehending!
asciilifeform: these are 'heavy industry' items, a la the siemens product starring in stuxnet.