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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me that this is the most parsimonious model -- chumpatronicity is not as such a property of individual dollars, any more than ZIL-buying ability was a property of particular rubles in 1980. it is more that the actual coin of the realm - is something else
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dollars as speculation... have to be booked as profits! before they can be realised. that's two degrees.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile dollars as profits... can't be spent. they gotta be "realized" first ; which is a sterilizing gate (the sterilisation is called taxation for no sane reason, it's not a tax)
mircea_popescu: trivial to show there's degrees of chumpatronic-ness of "money". take dollars as cash : they can be spent (while supplies last), they're basically equivalent to one of those coupons.
asciilifeform: so it is not as if this particular batch of monopoly money were somehow ~more~ chumpatronic than the usual.
asciilifeform: disguised as 'technical problem' or what it was.
mircea_popescu: (ie, soviets saw themselves as a national state, not as a mongrel empire. consequently population must be produced, can't be imported. consequently, all women must marry and bear 2.x children. consequently etc all the way down)
asciilifeform: btw it is not clear to me that whoredom 'incubator' has to be in same building as physics
asciilifeform: and there was epic butthurt, almost as if they had suggested gassing the jews or whatnot
asciilifeform: here's one local example from the nowhere company town where asciilifeform lives. at one time uni of md was on cost-cutting spree (as usual, quite selectively, but see below) and merged ~all~ of the sciences into 1 mega-department - chemistry, microbiology, physics, etc. all under 1 roof;
mircea_popescu: then again, they mostly don't, just as soon as stole enough to take off they take off.
mircea_popescu: as in they're substantially defective anyway ?
asciilifeform: well, just as with the last 'system' and its children, this one took a buncha folk who ought to have grown up washing the decks on godforsaken rusty freighters, or playing piano in whorehouses, and raised them onto suburban thrones, 'macmansions', 'professorships', etc.
asciilifeform: it delivers the sheeple, who see it as absolution.
mircea_popescu: go the fuck home, raise some grandkids, work a garden. there's such a thing as retirement. for a fucking reason.
asciilifeform: well yes, most drivers end up as mods in linux traditionally
mircea_popescu: kids who go to real college where they learn real science also learn intrinsically this, that to asq a question is to beg for money, and to disguise your questions as anything else is felonious. so they get an over-active self censor. meanwhile the idiots who do not go to real college, but to fake empire college learn that they can overpower their better peers through sheer gab. because "human rights" and "freedom of speech" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: communication to your superiors always carries a cost. if you write to your professor to ask him a bunch of dumb questions you're going to hear from him ; and if you try to disguise your questions as aything but questions, you belong expelled. there can not possibly be any other interaction between you and him. similarly with the other magisters, if you write your lawyer he will want 500 bux just to open the letter. for this
mircea_popescu: ng and today he is the superior i am beseeching so let's call it a wash as this seems likely to repeat in the future. but this is fantasy, not reality. nothing wrong with it, by itself ; but also not something found in nature.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger lemme spell this out ; without prejudice to you personally, here's how things go : communication is either enligthening the inferiors or beseeching the superiors. there IS NO SUCH THING AS EQUALITY. not in nature, ain't found. it's true that people may opt to abstractly, exactly in the way of any other ~delusion~, deem each other equals, perhaps on the basis that look, yesterday i was the superior he was beseechi
diana_coman: thestringpuller, I doubt you dived into eulora code; it was probably planeshift code you dived into and nobody said as far as I know that planeshift was any sort of supermodel
Framedragger: i personally don't see how he is doing any worse in terms of snr as compared so some others. (e.g., myself; that's probably not an argument that is very favourable to me, but anyway). don't see why you are suddenly so fussed.
mircea_popescu: guy that was killed in june by ypg missile (as reported by ypg) and in january by the syrians (as reported by the saa) was just killed in mosul, according to the kurds.
BingoBoingo: ^ Very noisy week so shorter Xtend. Few things qualifying even as not news.
ben_vulpes: as* in
mircea_popescu: apparently someone reading the logs got nervous as to whether they can or can't pull it off in a pinch.
mircea_popescu: well not so far as all that.
ben_vulpes: would you go so far as to say that he has done you a violence?
mircea_popescu: just to be on the safe side /me nipped https://archive.is/ksb0T#selection-4343.0-4351.5 's wings a litte ( http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/d1wcf/?raw=true registered as comment 149). curious if the guy publishes it or not.
mircea_popescu: the incredible part is that he fucking seriously proposes to "keep an eye on kubernetes" ? dude, no. just no. ban anyone even remotely involved in anything to do with docker from ever being hired as anything but menial labor.
mircea_popescu: as punishment ++, his beloved son rose in rebellion decades later, and to cement his claim to the crown he... publicly fucked a dozen of david's concubines.
mircea_popescu: except a nosy prophet (sent, of course, by the lord) reproached him, so david confessed. as punishment - his kid with the woman died. that's how you punish a dude!
shinohai read that as pooping there for a sec ...
asciilifeform: (originally word implied berserker/kamikaze mission, but in modern times often refers to anyone who is expected to fight to the death or at least set off 'shaheed belt' as last hurrah)
asciilifeform: 'Every person in Bitcoin failed. We are looking at 100% failure rate. I could go on and on about my involvement but the fact of the matter is, I'm rich and everyone else is poor. Rant aside, every one of my projects has magically disappeared - I'm talking about full stacks in every market. Why? Every project I did, Peercover, Providence, Simple Exchange, Simple Stocks, Omega Interpreter, Webmata - massively sued legal entities out as
phf: i suspect they are not necessarily framed as whores, there are layers of deniability there. k street parties will have girls, sourced from local sororities by enterprising promoters. it could be factored in the "price" of admission and if you're there it's for you. but you can also say that "oh i was there discussing business, i didn't much mind the semi naked drunk supermodels staggering about, for i'm a married man"
mats: in your telling of this story, are bill/hrc complicit in the pedoring or is that bit merely incidental or manufactured for use as blackmail?
mircea_popescu: because rarely they get to skim as much as 10% of a public works contract, this is from an economic perspective a much better deal. unfortunately it doesn't scale - but in the end days of the empire scale is the last of the concern of the scurrying rats.
mircea_popescu: and also a major reason why eg european politicians take "irrational" measures such as allowing refugees in. yes it's true that a thousand refugees will cost the local community in excess of ten million before it's all settled. BUT, importantly, a thousand refugees contain at least a dozen harvestable bodies, which provide for the politicians ie "modern democracy" criminal organisation a hefty 1mn+ in revenue.
mircea_popescu: generally they don't maintain their own muscle, but rely on the krysha to force the local police depts into acting as muscle for them, which is a major centralizing effect of the scheme (historically this worked under the hand of the local police, providing THEM the revenues - as seen even today in eg argentina)
mircea_popescu: anyway. obama's choice (we'll prosecute drugs ; not prostitution) exactly mirrors the proceeds of eg appalachian convention and generally the prevailing opinion in the mob. when you have only limited enforcing capacity, as you necessarily will, fighting prostitution is unfeasible.
mircea_popescu: mats prostitution was always a major money maker throughout history. in idiotic societies such as the us, preteens and other unfit for whoredom (boys, whatever) are both prized by the patrons contrary to sense (you really want to fuck a 13yo rather than a 26 yo ? because why, you like fucking walls ?) and useful for the madams because hey, blackmail afterwards.
diana_coman: contest anyway; considering however that it was set for Halloween, I guess I'd go with "goriest" and therefore BingoBoingo should win; as a side, I must say I don't quite follow the point of "all possible positions expressed" since they were quite clear/obvious anyway; ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-11-04 18:20 hanbot: BingoBoingo diana_coman mircea_popescu "right mess" indeed lol. anyway, i appreciated bb's story on account of its total lack of fear or restraint, and diana's for its jabs, particularly the spellchecker. i'll be naming myself though, on the simple criteria of having liked it best. as far as second and third places go i'll name bb second and diana third, for no other reason than to see all possible positions expressed.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/4YqTK << from same rag. looks like russian embargo is working as planned. ehhNOT!
trinque: mircea_popescu: entertaining as all hell, and I never even got to see sailing.
phf: but no in this case israeli is the reason why i was there (for a burek) but the dodgy is everything else about the place. it might as well be starbucks, except they don't have those fancy starbucks machines so the "baristas" can fuck up however they want and they do
phf: modern browser will helpfully render that url as "google" for you, so as not to confuse with such complexities as domain hierarchy, protocols, paths, queries, etc. so once they went down that path of madness incorrect parsing becomes a "YOU COULD BE TRICKED" situation, because you could, thank you google
mircea_popescu: they're patching the error of lynx doing the right thing in 2016 as it did in 1996 ; except meanwhile everyone else went fucking clueless.
mircea_popescu: the indignity of adult female caught in nonsensical academic expectations on a college campus, trying to "keep up", at least as far as appearances go, through social engineering her way through the teachers, cold reading them like the last lounge lizzard and at all times trying to scent the prevailing opinion in the wind like some sort of illiterate but desperate fox is not apparent to any who've not fucked them as such. stil
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider the case of "quantum computer", picked randomly from a set of these. you, or i, or others here possess the math and physics needed to evaluate that thing. and so we know, as a factual matter, it dun exist.
asciilifeform: because, as mircea_popescu correctly described in recent thread re 'wikileaks', 'public opinion' sums to 0.
mircea_popescu: not even as far as evolution. if i go to a starving village and feed them sushi and tell them sushi is the best meal there is, their dutiful repeating of this does not even constitute an opinion.
phf: is that sort of like "evolution" being an emergent behavior, so doesn't actually "exist" as an object, likewise asciilifeform is naming processes described in manufacturing consent "cathedral" and claiming that i can go touch it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it counts for something. it doesn't count for what you thought it counted - because there is such a thing as unhomogenous medium.
asciilifeform: u.s. nomenklatura is every bit as homogeneous as the other one were.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the "cathedral" never had any consistency outside of the pointless drivel of some redditard or other. apparently readily swallowed as fact by a certain demographic.
hanbot: BingoBoingo diana_coman mircea_popescu "right mess" indeed lol. anyway, i appreciated bb's story on account of its total lack of fear or restraint, and diana's for its jabs, particularly the spellchecker. i'll be naming myself though, on the simple criteria of having liked it best. as far as second and third places go i'll name bb second and diana third, for no other reason than to see all possible positions expressed. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: "Our Elliot who art in Hell. What was your last name again. Our kingdom cum, no sex for you. For we are in heaven. Give us this, our daily lols. Forgive us our sex, as we forgive you for not having any. And lead us not into slaughter over craigslist, but deliver us lulz. A Phi."
BingoBoingo: Anyways I think this is progress because the buck seems as though it will inevitably be passed unfairly back to mircea_popescu
BingoBoingo: As a revolutionary idea incapable of having sex the Bitcoin Foundation may have a role to play as surrogate Elliot to be unfair to.
diana_coman: tion day that clearly gets one drinking, although BingoBoingo really got James and Elliot going; agreeing with hanbot, I'm totally in favour of splitting the prize in three; finally disagreeing with hanbot and with BingoBoingo and with anyone who gets into this, I'll simply proclaim http://thebitcoin.foundation/ as winner and award the whole prize to it
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-04#1562863 << denial and its categories don't even enter into any of this. on one hand, "the people" are bellow cattle, intellectually. one needn't explain farm functioning to the cows, just as long as they're fed. on the other hand, if you can, you must. the electronics exist, therefore they will be used. we can now mold plastics so therefore you'll fuck dildos. so what if you... uh... think yo ☝︎
pete_dushenski: as long as copper picks paper, he's golden.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-03 14:34 phf: up in Connecticut where they have remnants of that culture still around they actually know what to do with spaces, and it becomes very obvious how even moderately well to do people here are poor. that's how you end up with bathroom serving as a library (because if you play a piano, where do you put a grand piano? if you put it in the library how they do in american beer commercials, the books are going to dampen the sound, you want a
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-03#1562719 << consider kensington palace. as per work34/1501 (made 1867), the whole damned thing is something like 400 x 600. if you cut out the holes you're left with 20k sqft optimistically, on two floors. that is... apparently, enough living space for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Prince Harry, the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, the Duke and Duchess of Kent, and Prince and Princess Mich ☝︎
phf: up in Connecticut where they have remnants of that culture still around they actually know what to do with spaces, and it becomes very obvious how even moderately well to do people here are poor. that's how you end up with bathroom serving as a library (because if you play a piano, where do you put a grand piano? if you put it in the library how they do in american beer commercials, the books are going to dampen the sound, you want a ☟︎
mircea_popescu: add to this the usual technological 15% (you'll need hallways too, right ?) and suddenly you're talking 1k sqm / 10`000 sqfeet as an absolute minimum. going all the way up to multiple acres of floorspace.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-03 05:36 pete_dushenski: veyron and other 'hypercars' like it are little more for rich dude to get brownie points with friends and strangers in a way that's less likely to cause resentment so much as envy, at least compared to jewelry, designer clothes, very large houses, and the rest of the gauche trappings of the arriviste class described by tlp and others.
shinohai: Everyone will forget Point of Sale, it will henceforth be known as Point of Slut
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561446 << this being arguably the controlling point. as personal computer generation (ie republican generation) rises to prominence, so too will exotic and fabulous creations be fashioned to meet the tastes and demands of the new kids on the block. this could very well mean more handmade ic and less whatever it is that jeff koons does. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: personal computers, by contrast, are hermetically hidden away. they're ~private~ whereas cars are as public as the nose on your face.
pete_dushenski: veyron and other 'hypercars' like it are little more for rich dude to get brownie points with friends and strangers in a way that's less likely to cause resentment so much as envy, at least compared to jewelry, designer clothes, very large houses, and the rest of the gauche trappings of the arriviste class described by tlp and others. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561434 << even uneducated rappers understand that cars are a visible sign of wealth at least as much as performance machines. the performance writes the cheques saying that "i could" but of course there's essentially nowhere that these cheques might be cashed where anyone is watching. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562239 << as previously levitan'd http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/04/you-cant-have-door-to-door-shakedowns-in-defeudalised-france/ ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Make Great Great Again: "You’re hardly irresponsible with your funds. You’re saving a decent sum of money and working on paying down debt. As for your company: It sounds like it won’t be a lifetime job. You can easily permit yourself the spending on your cat." << https://archive.is/thWwo
BingoBoingo: Just so long as a plot kept Elliot's will from making him an hero.
BingoBoingo: This was illustrated as the most fair thing. Elliot discovering Thunderbird and becoming a Chief. Given his excess of will and manner of drinking it was inevitable. http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2016/10/29/is-so-unfair-cycle-12-fairness-strikes/
mircea_popescu: (note that medieval beer has no hops, as a result doesn't keep, it's a lot closer to braga than what passes for beer today)
mircea_popescu: especially if you define "drugs" as "what the people who think gay = only fucks men would think drugs are"
ben_vulpes: no, i'd say that "historic drugs" fits quite nicely into the same time window as "gay = only fucks men"
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that it is about castration - the 'actiony' types are just as fixated, they would sincerely rather make a crappy aluminum musket that eventually kills himself and whoever stands next, than a perfectly serviceable rocket.
mircea_popescu: not everyone's quite as castrated as "civilised" folk, you could say.
mircea_popescu: also just as expensive as discussed.
mircea_popescu: when i first got laid i had nobody there to show me how it's done so i made do as best i could.
asciilifeform: because there is such a thing as practical craft.
asciilifeform: as for airplanes, i recently read, for instance, an entertaining piece, 'stick and rudder', classic, by one w. langewiesche. but if you wanted to fly in an airplane, i would still recommend going with davout at the wheel, or mthreat, rather than asciilifeform .
hanbot: well in the same manner as'd be a museum of vinyl siding, sure.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-02 17:25 asciilifeform: PeterL: would you fly as passenger in a mig that i offer you a ride in after reading 'how to mig' b0000k by, say, mthreat ?
asciilifeform: (there is variant where it is man-sized, it is sold as 'mri')
mircea_popescu: in ~principle~ all chemistry as practiced now could be changed to phys-chem through the process of, put substance inside magical cavity, shoot the right beams at the right atoms.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-02#1562183 << afaik copper sulphate is one of the naturally occuring presentations. it comesa as mix of carbonate, phosphate and some oxides. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: fucking savagery. and it probably started "for your own good", as these things always go.
mircea_popescu: (to be clear : 14F catheter is inserted in the lus (lower uterine segment). the baloon is then inflated to ~5ml, and under light traction 100ml of 0.15% solutin in introduced as drip over 10 minutes. no antibiotics needed, abortion occurs within hours.)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: as systems engineer, charges are complex, and 'simple' 'v' that 'doesn't get me that far' gets me pretty far.
asciilifeform: as mega-rocketeer, you oughta know that
asciilifeform: 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb' aha.
ben_vulpes: as evidenced by the usg-blessed rocketry associations insistent whine that rockets may only go up.
asciilifeform: PeterL: would you fly as passenger in a mig that i offer you a ride in after reading 'how to mig' b0000k by, say, mthreat ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: as you well know, the actual body of knowledge that is needed, has never really been written down, because it is at least partly a 'seat of the pants' craft, like flying jets