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BingoBoingo: ^ The silence is wonder
mircea_popescu: wait, the clim authoritative spec exists as a html ?! ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: Fucking Yegge and everyone else who was involved with CL, even tangentially did a huge disservice to the language. He (and rich hicky) complains and complains about issues that can be solved with a few macros.
mircea_popescu: anyway, eating trail mix for survival, in town. what's wrong with you know, cuisine.
mircea_popescu: oh that was the other thing! "soylent". ran by some douchy dood with all sorts of "gonzo" marketing ideas, vaguely reminescent of the airbnb clowns.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 21:35 mircea_popescu: (apparently a badly balanced something or the other by steve yegge - you know, the supposedly notable derp behind http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com2006/04/lisp-is-not-acceptable-lisp.html and a whole load of java, ruby etc)
gabriel_laddel: O right, that's why I dropped in here the other day.
trinque: heh! I'd be careful with that, masamune-san!
gabriel_laddel: iirc it was pretty clear that mod6 needs to read loper-os, but what do I know.
trinque: thought it was another recent thread.
trinque: ah not in that case though. mod6 has perfectly legitimate interest there, and so do I.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-06 23:27 trinque: all roads lead to make 50 billion dollars, then cry as alf says it's not enough
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-06#1535380 < also, glad to see someone reads the logs. These new n00bs don't seem to be aware of ~any past discussions. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: I'm translating the spec from HTML to CLIM. ☟︎
trinque: gabriel_laddel: what's new in the mclim-mines
BingoBoingo: One can also buy "power bars" in bulk and not regret their life choices as they eat mostly read food with the occasional "power bar"
gabriel_laddel: Soylent "food bars" are much tastier though.
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 02:09 asciilifeform: http://www.mealsquares.com << turns out - they do exist.
gabriel_laddel: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1536791 < they're not bad. ~A power bar you buy in bulk. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: Hey there. On a much better connection today.
a111: Logged on 2015-02-20 00:46 asciilifeform: if it takes a batshit king and world's thickest minefield to keep out 'mcdonalds', it might yet turn out to be worth it.
BingoBoingo: The ones that don't require sarcasm
BingoBoingo: Well, read past the headline for the other Kim Jung Uns
asciilifeform: how's that
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe, but from the lie flow many truths!
a111: Logged on 2015-07-30 19:42 ascii_field: trinque: virtually everything printed in english re: north kr is a bold-faced lie out of the mouth of south kr
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-30#1218462 & other threads. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: ^ backdoor election update, in the pooper
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 16:34 asciilifeform: http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/256205-thumb/AirPods-header.jpg << is it just me or do these look like... smokes ?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-07 19:27 asciilifeform: 'AirPods will use Infrared sensors to detect when they’re in your ears, playing only when they’re in your ears. The setup process is super easy — connect the AirPods once to your iPhone, and the AirPods instantly sync over iCloud to your other devices. From there, you never worry about them again.' >> oblig. >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=752
asciilifeform: Framedragger: thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-07#1536473 >> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-08#1537331 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: by the time ice age 24 is available "only in select theatres" because nobody can be arsed to torrent it they'll be ready with iphone 17 ?
Framedragger: from a friend mentioning release of iphone 7 and seeing this pic http://i.imgur.com/SAkZ0C4.jpg i just realized that apple didn't put a fucking 3.5mm jack into their newest shit"phone". srsly.
asciilifeform: is that a 100amp mains cable feeding into the cow skull ?
trinque: provoke him bad enough and he might even teach you something.
PeterL: one man's (alf's) half-baked idea is better than another's work of art
Framedragger: trinque: coolcool. and yeah thanks :)
Framedragger: like, there's a line between stimulating the forum and trolling that should not be breached
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [18:26:30] <Framedragger> thru other services and just plain syn flood or w/e
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:840/to:840#840 << freenode kinda leaks ips, so the hostmask is not THAT strong a protection anywya.
trinque: feel free to review some of my half-bakery from old logs.
Framedragger: it did, it did! but i feel i may be wasting people's time by asking to look into half-baked ideas
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it never ceases to amaze me.
Framedragger: but i have to stop presenting ideas i do not really believe in myself. i guess i thought it may garner some useful feedback tho.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: secret bot is an irc user in a channel which no-one knows to be a bot (or a bot of particular use). scriba also has that kind of hostmask (unaffiliated/framedragger/bot/scriba) but everyone knows what scriba is for.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Goiânia accident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%25C3%25A2nia_accident>; The Radiological Accident in Goiânia - IAEA Publications: <http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub815_web.pdf>; Goiânia incident Brasil - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dfh-VqehmgCQ>
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck thinks this works. seriously now. trying to shoot the idiot is hard enough, but to disable enemy combatants by spraying "uranium" on them...
mircea_popescu: wtf, they're going to carry a plant by the backpack so the enemy has to take 10 minute breaks after every two minutes of shooting ?
mircea_popescu: so fucking stupid. soviet workers shoveled dirt in the very core of the blasted ukrainian plant.
mircea_popescu: wasn't this ancient us army crap from like the 1950s ?
asciilifeform: said to weigh between 10 and 30 kilograms and be able to “spray radioactive material”, possibly uranium, on the enemy. It was impossible to verify the account given to Radio Free Asia, which is funded by the US government.'
asciilifeform: Framedragger: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-news-latest-soldiers-nuclear-backpacks-kim-jong-un-tensions-us-south-korean-military-a7217401.html << typical gargle, '“Outstanding soldiers were selected from each reconnaissance platoon and light infantry brigade to form the nuclear backpack unit the size of a battalion,” the source from North Hamgyong province was quoted as saying. The supposed weapons were
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly what happened with indians, too. mn randos were sucked into indian lands / indian women / etc.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger meanwhile i figured out that if im careful to never use it, it won'\t mostly pop in again
Framedragger: but it appears the whole range thing fucks things up too much to be useful
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if u.s. lost 400 mn heads, you will have a gaping black hole in which ~80 mn. randos will get immediately sucked in. or the like.
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:995/to:995#995 << your requested citation link was http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:383/to:793#383 - both the anchro (383 - now preferred over from: ) and the from: point to 383, so it spits 383
asciilifeform: ( incidentally : for some reason nobody mentions the basic reason why savages drop like flies even from relatively mild epidemic: no slack in the gears! i.e. if no one gets out of bed for 2 weeks, EVERYONE starves )
mircea_popescu: if the us lost 400mn heads tomorrow it wouldn't stand.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm not prepared to go into microbiological details of smallpox. but even admitting vaccine saved 10, heck, 20% of the population. then what ?
mircea_popescu: which permits them to live.
mircea_popescu: they are protected however still, because "herd immunity", which is to say OTHER people not gettng it artificially reduces the "population density" from the pov of that pathogen.
mircea_popescu: but more's the pojnt : even in very genetically diverse populations (such as yurpeans, because colonialism! such as not redskins, because stoneage losers), a good portion of the population has poor vaccine response.
asciilifeform: but among the remainder ~10%
mircea_popescu: usually fatal the first time.
asciilifeform: soooo mircea_popescu knows of a case of indian suffering smallpox 2+ times ?
mircea_popescu: vacciness work through stimulating the expression of pre existing genes/proteins/complexes, not by creating a magical forcefield around your dick.)
mircea_popescu: all these proteins are created, mostly in the liver, on the basis of blueprints, which are encoded genetically. which means that if your father didn't have anywhere a marker for smallpox, and he had you with a woman who also, you are immune to vaccination : it won't express anything.
mircea_popescu: (to explain the science involved : immunity works as a multi layered interplay of numerous proteins. some recognize specific bits of cells - hopefully, pathogens only, or else autoimmune response - some mark these recognitions, some others further mark, it's a whole shebang.
asciilifeform: well not these.
mircea_popescu: the indians didn't stand a chance. if you think vaccination works in aboriginal population you're a very special sort of lovely.
asciilifeform: it is what usg did to crypto.
asciilifeform: if the indians were clever and looked as if they were at risk for discovering vaccination , quarantine, etc. and laughing off smallpox blankets, how might equally clever englishmen have countered ?
a111: Logged on 2016-09-05 21:01 asciilifeform: trinque: who cribs, has not ~understood~.
mircea_popescu: gotta whiten, it's the cryptographical priviledge check.
mircea_popescu: "here's how we're being respectful to one another, because god forbid if someone should speak plainly we might hear about all those classes we skipped in college."
asciilifeform: behind it hide many of the other pathologies in the cluster.
asciilifeform: i find this particular mental block quite interesting
asciilifeform: i know of ZERO exceptions to 'hey dudebroz, i built rng!111 and here's how i whitened, because MUST...'
scriba: Logged on 2016-09-08: [17:40:27] <asciilifeform> 'Data coming from true random number generators is never 100% random. I am aware of no exceptions. Whitening is required in all cases before the data is suitable for use in cryptography.' << from first link
mircea_popescu: yeah but the wrong one.
asciilifeform: iirc he turned the knob to 'spit 1 line'
mircea_popescu: Framedragger did i misread or did you say it's not doing this anymoar ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160908/from:383/to:793#383 << lol wtf is with the derpage.
shinohai: I suppose ouput such as this is designed to get more $$$ in defense spending or somesuch
shinohai: <asciilifeform> i cannot parse this document. it is output of a shannonizer. <<< kek
asciilifeform: at least their opponents spoke HUMAN SPEECH
asciilifeform: in retrospect, the folks lysenko was shooting, had it good.
asciilifeform: i cannot parse this document. it is output of a shannonizer.
asciilifeform: 'Third, develop a capability to eliminate unwanted engineered genes from environments and restore systems to their genetic baseline state.' << wat.
mircea_popescu: o look, the onion bought the independent
Framedragger: oh yeah. i'm there for the lulzy headlines. but you're right asciilifeform
asciilifeform: which is the source of ~100% of '5 reasons north kr is CRAYYYYZEEE you MUST know'
asciilifeform: alternative is 'cut the thing or die trying'
mircea_popescu: "we shall call allah x" ? that's your alternative ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is the only practical alternative to 'electron moves because allah's farts push it'
asciilifeform: trinque: dunno that anybody knows.
mircea_popescu: trinque he has this constructed thing whereby "x must exist and the thing that must exist we call x".
trinque: no the actual egypt