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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was 'mortido' that led me to bid. i wanted to see if i could pull it off without getting killed immediately.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: before.
phf: mircea_popescu: if i end up finding it at all useful, i will. i used spacing to indicate when were the active parts of day, so i'm trying this graph to provide an equivalent functionality. it's a number of messages/hour of day histogram
asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: mod6: for a good example of one that ~isn't~ - see the epic mircea_popescu thread with otp!
davout: mircea_popescu: lemme check all that tomorrow when i'm fully woken up :D
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: notbadatall
mod6: mircea_popescu: ooh. huh. no wonder i didn't see it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja have in ro the old folks holding up pictures of stalin ?
hanbot: mircea_popescu it's possible something like that is the cheaper option for a certain sort of person in a certain sort of context
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i'm in awe of what ustardia can do to people. << PUBLISHING!!!
asciilifeform sees where mircea_popescu is going.
asciilifeform: ah i see what mircea_popescu meant re gold etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bit-serial arithmetic is slow. and bit-serial storage is slow.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you gotta pick some quantum of info for the logic to operate on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you recall the 1-bit cpu thread ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what did templos ever do to you!111
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: http://www.contravex.com/2016/04/07/that-time-i-let-outright-ownership-of-bitbet-slip-through-my-fingers/#comment-43090
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re thread, see also earlier threadz re 'impedance matching'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: something like that
mircea_popescu: anyway. the forever-bitcoin, ready to be buried under the sea or w/e, is not happening. because : "<mircea_popescu> how are you going to define a sorting rule for a type you don't know yet. <asciilifeform> by knowing it ?" is actually inescapable. ☟︎
asciilifeform: it is, i think, how mircea_popescu uses bitcoin, for instance.
phf: mircea_popescu: fwiw a lot of vlsi research in the 70s and 80s was about that, how do we make bedrock a lot less engineery, but that all died with microcomputer revolution(sic)
jurov: mircea_popescu: there's "unum" numeric system that does support ranges, and is improved replacement of ieee floats
phf: i don't understand why the point mircea_popescu would be so controversial among compscis here, it's sort of the whole point of numerical analysis
jurov: mircea_popescu: there is, using ranges
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: easy, just don't use the idiot ieee float ☟︎
asciilifeform: if you want rational numeric tower (as mircea_popescu describes above) you are condemned to lisp.
asciilifeform: <+mircea_popescu> so this is what i mean by "it's a c" : whatever the
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly say what you think of as 'a c'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu reads 3 pages of ada examples and spews nonsense re same
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for the latter, common lisp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how is a 'towards Derive' a fortran ?!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there ARE NO sane graphical wwwtrons
phf: mircea_popescu: you've not looked at "modern" browsers in a while
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it still tastes like rusty nailz
PeterL: mircea_popescu mpex faq still points to #bitcoin-assets
davout: mircea_popescu: one hour after the bid war has stopped basically
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu often says 'i don't deal in counterfactuals', and the principle seems quite in place here - it is not clear to me that a gcc-less 1980s would have led to anything other than a wintel os+compiler monopoly
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see thread. the haskell folks went entirely with 'fuck the cpu, we'll plug our ears and eyes'
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Did you just google the string "horseface"
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm thinking the 1970 something movie
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha! BingoBoingo explained it!11
phf: mircea_popescu: gosling, the guy who designed java, is notable for recognizing the right thing, but intentionally committing an atrocity of java as a language for the corporate programming. in one of his interviews he says something along the lines of "at least we got ~them~ to use a garbage collector". before java gc was an explicitly lisp thing, which is also gosling's pedigree
asciilifeform: let's see if mircea_popescu coughs up a better example when he wakes up.
phf: mircea_popescu: i think it's because whole thing is various degrees of successful abstraction on top of von neumann machine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has sharp edges but afaik it is the best we have short of massive-runtime-turd abominations like haskell.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didn't build the thing!1111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also interesting,
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it means you ought to be able to get successor by + and predecessor by -.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hm?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa software cos were EXEMPTED from liability suits
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated lobbes 2 at 3632157688 << #eulora logs bot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you mean so that trinque has to build a castle around the server ? ☟︎
davout: mircea_popescu: why would one desire such an abomination?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu et al: was there ever a btctronic auction site ?
davout: mircea_popescu: http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report#comment-8416
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: hey, long time no see.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: modern usa, taxwise, and in many other respects, is circa 1900 or so.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunno any other philip
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: half?!
asciilifeform: the crack smokers, as mircea_popescu correctly observes, are more or less invulnerable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only true in the 'blood from a stone' sense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! does that fella also sell own shit ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these were ~examples~
phf: mircea_popescu: yeah, but then you have to write that logic into a bot. i was hoping that using login/password just kicks the previous account off
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ada is a merciless thing. e.g., you cannot use two types interchangeably even if 'they're the same inside'; can only take pointers of items explicitly declared pointerable-to; by default, pointers only valid in the context where they were taken
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the bitwise thing works. i have nfi why not used in the example.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you gotta know what mod means in ada
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a ludicrous analogy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did not say that basic hygiene is a ~stopping~ place, but a starting point.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: basic hygiene.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: generally folks will use simple predicates (e.g., 'not equal to 0')
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why? because it is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wish it weren't the right thing...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: consider, e.g., naggum's oil/gas exploration proggies
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you'd like ada then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in that most effective software isn't public.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no threads, no multicpu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is here committing the 'economics is what i see at the grocery counter' fallacy
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of phf from 2 to 3 << Teh desire has been expressed and heard!
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated phf 2 at 3644159832 << Fixed our boxen!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: satoshi
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, not enough content below to have the page scroll to the right spot
phf: mircea_popescu: now that's just crazy talk, the behavior is identical to old log
shinohai: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/06/house-of-horrors-police-find-apparent-sex-slave-chained-to-strippers-pole-in-detroit-home/ <<< Police said mircea_popescu was nowhere to be found. ☟︎
davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ^
asciilifeform: i find it difficult to imagine that mircea_popescu would not have known this. ergo on 'day x' he believed that he was connected directly to a mine.
asciilifeform: srsly this is begging for mircea_popescu's article
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah.
adlai doesn't understand what mircea_popescu means by "there's two". is this like "another skywalker"?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'dos2unix'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hey!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what, you think i'm so foolish as to try semantic analysis on...all of the scripts?
jurov: ^ calling our resident conspiration theorist asciilifeform: why mircea_popescu feels necessary to draw parallels with bitbet?
asciilifeform: it is how mircea_popescu came to subj
deedbot: mircea_popescu unrated assbot.
asciilifeform: 13:54 <+mircea_popescu> fuck, or get off the pig. << win!