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pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: "force farmers to plan crops" << plant ? not sure that sucking usg.dole teet qualifies as planning.
Framedragger: i also like such Brussels born comments as
mircea_popescu: also perhaps of interest in some circles, apparently there's such a thing as https://sovietmen.wordpress.com/2016/09/17/tiziana-catone/
mircea_popescu: it's really not that far removed from human experience as to excuse ignorance. except of course the idle are idle, not as a label but as a thing, and so never encountered anything in their life.
mircea_popescu: amateur statisticians (such as i dunno, horse bettors, fantasy league players etc) constantly run into this problem where an entity outperforms another two years running but not the two years together.
mircea_popescu: and mosquitoes are very good exemplars for jews in this discussion - it has been my long held view they must be exterminated, as a species, permanently, as a minimal requirement of calling the human species civilised. and they ARE being exterminated. we will die in a world with no mosquitoes.
mircea_popescu: that its mechanisms "think" bloodsucking pays has no bearings whatsoever on the reality of the matter. as it happens - it doesn't pay.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 14:19 mircea_popescu: and as taleb correctly points out, the jews' misunderstanding of this fundamental point is what drives a lot of their inept policy. such as you know, "how to make ghetos better ? BANKRUPT MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE!!! then they'll move in the gheto and smoking mothers are protective for the baby!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568342 << why not the parsimonious hypothesis -- they do it for the easy moneyz, bankrupt the idiot 'goys', not as if they were people etc ☝︎
mircea_popescu: also as taleb correctly points out, this example is just a very good example, but not the whole story. what it exemplifies is the ineptitude of a class of people, whom we call jews, and whom we wish to see in camps. these people understand some - enough to be harmful - but not enough, so as to be useful. they are worse than stupid, because of this familiarity with first order but incapacity for higher order reasoning. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and as taleb correctly points out, the jews' misunderstanding of this fundamental point is what drives a lot of their inept policy. such as you know, "how to make ghetos better ? BANKRUPT MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE!!! then they'll move in the gheto and smoking mothers are protective for the baby!" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: almost as if we shared talking points on a napkin. which we haven't, but there it is. the iyi/jews in question'd be excused if they thought "massive right wing conspiracy", because hey.
mircea_popescu: islam has won the fitness race ; chiefly because the "swj" replacement for "fundamentalist christian" is SO FUCKING UNFIT, even islam has a chance. as well as gasteropodes and other dead branches that forgot to die out.
ben_vulpes: legs parallel to bed or at an angle from that as well?
mircea_popescu: no, as her thighs and pubic muscles lock she produces this assemblage which resonates somewhere around 1.3-1.7hz
mircea_popescu: but in general she acts as resonator.
BingoBoingo: Eh, I might as well.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe she's looking to start a new life as grabee.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 0 good reason. (doesn't strike me as ideal work for extreme introvert folk who leave the house every month at best, but what do i know)
BingoBoingo: So who is applying to the Trump Transition team as TMSR ambassador?
asciilifeform: btw here's an exercise, tally up the mass of all of the code on your linux box that is needed to get it to where it can query dns as we knew it
asciilifeform: inner transport layer can be same as what mircea_popescu described earlier, 'x y z'
asciilifeform: updates happen as the blox come in, neh?
asciilifeform: now if i had read comic as a boy, i might grasp this.
mircea_popescu: when you bought the next installment of whatever comic you read as a boy,
asciilifeform: at least as late as the 2nd of this month, was alive.
asciilifeform: i get, ftr, same EGGOG as if i ask for tmsr.gov.
mircea_popescu: trilema fucking exists as my act of will, wherever i say it is that's where it is. of course they go together.
asciilifeform in whole life has only ever owned one encyclopaedia, 'britannica 1958', fished out of a skip as a boy, and incidentally it was the longest edition they made -- after that, only cuts. and the thing is surprisingly useful.
mircea_popescu: "People think that Web browsers are elegant computation platforms, and Web pages are light, fluffy things that you can edit in Notepad as you trade ironic comments with your friends in the coffee shop. Nothing could be further from the truth." << actually... that's exactly how it goes for me. and i mean that literally - i write straight html while hurr durring with teh girlz.
mircea_popescu: dns as is is dns as is.
asciilifeform: if it's ~exactly~ as now, then i get whatever verizon wants to substitute.
mircea_popescu: same thing as from a dig
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1568014 << that's what i thought as well - i queried along the same lines: "say someone with a valid GPG key rushes to register trilema.com in the Republican DNS before yourself. I suppose that is all well and good, and you negrating the key would only be appropriate in the instance of that person ☝︎
Framedragger: but then already it is not as simplistic as "whoever owns the key", no?
mircea_popescu: the imperial idiots implemented this as dns, which is stupid and braindamaged, but the implementation being flawed doesn't remove the fundamental reasons, which is why i say - read that damned rfc, the things i didn't mock are actually correct.
asciilifeform favours of keeping the set of 'everyone who matters must agree on this' as small as possible (but not smaller).
Framedragger: so the notion of a local symbol frame/context will be retained inevitably, is that what you're saying mircea_popescu? (in which case i'd add that gns-the-implementation could even probably be used - on each interested user's machine - as a local name system. etc.)
mircea_popescu: i for instance don't credit the english-online-dictionaries opinions as to the meaning of english words.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would say the gns as discussed on trilema drastically reduces it.
Framedragger: i still have a reserved name ('indra', as in reflexive "indra's net" / indrajāla) for my mega decentralized permanent content concept, baked when i was maybe 18 yo lol. in fairness, "indra's net" is a l33t name that i hope i will use some time.
Framedragger: could be a set of particular (and particular only) peers. in any case, there must be a shared understanding among the users/elite as to how to proceed in face of naming conflicts.
mircea_popescu: and while it pretends otherwise, it has nfi what . means and would just as happily resolve "illegal" domaions.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1567838 << in point of fact we don't must use it, i've been happy with local name table for what, half a year ? not so much a matter of this as - it's there. might as well infect and "ruin" it for teh imperial idjits. ☝︎
trinque: as we could rate X or not
Framedragger: "A0 can be implemented by regarding an authority's PGP public key as being its public routing address!" << nice kademlia and/or gossipd vibes
mircea_popescu: trinque the words you use must have meanings. even if they have the most peculiar of meanings such as nigger = bureaucrat or jew = us agitprop agent ; nevertheless they must be given. somewhere.
asciilifeform: central namespaces are a dumb idea. i regard it as my duty to put this on record.
Framedragger: trinque: i meant as a generic string - trying to avoid the term 'domain' as the latter is not accurate..
Framedragger: trinque: not that part. the transport part - name query/response, as well as name updates.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: worse than this, it is even difficult to quantity the cost of perpetuating the IDEA of a 'block cipher' as being A THING
asciilifeform: (incidentally, if something runs ~solely~ on top of a system written in jwzc, it is to be counted as jwzc code, every line. just as every penny spent by an embezzler from his embezzled funds counts as mis-spent.)
scriba: what the screenshot is).as newman put it, "to see things as they are, to go righ
scriba: Logged on 2016-11-15: [17:08:07] <mircea_popescu> not, on the other hand, to deny that there in fact exists this subculture dedicated to the screenshot as quotation mechanism, or that tech support teams regularly see terrabytes of crap each month, clogging the tubes for no conceivable reason. it has to do with a failure of literacy, a certain laziness of the mind that thinks in symbols (which is
Framedragger: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20161115/#349 << ohmygerd how i hate this shit. it ends with "to quote text in screenshot of screenshot, i'll make a screenshot". tumblr at least retains/-ed the concept of a "quote as a block of text". wouldn't be surprised if not for long.
BingoBoingo: Well, as Elliot pointed out Tail is also an Inequity
pete_dushenski: like whole #rapemelania thing, libertards are now outting themselves as the biggest racists/sexists/bigots around, post-trump
asciilifeform: as in, the thing gets hashed, and db gets queried for the hash, and for the fp (these are two separate and not wholly overlapping ways to index pgp keys) to see if we already have either
mircea_popescu: to get back to the pguctor feeding briefly - you mean "one at a time" as in insert into whatever values () as opposed to insert into whatever values (),(),() ?
asciilifeform: (incidentally -- it was mandated, by microshit. purely as show of force.)
mircea_popescu: ie, the back button itself is promisetronic as implemented by browsers. "almost like lisp!"
mircea_popescu: not, on the other hand, to deny that there in fact exists this subculture dedicated to the screenshot as quotation mechanism, or that tech support teams regularly see terrabytes of crap each month, clogging the tubes for no conceivable reason. it has to do with a failure of literacy, a certain laziness of the mind that thinks in symbols (which is what the screenshot is).as newman put it, "to see things as they are, to go righ
mircea_popescu: the very notion of "screenshot as proof" is suspect and to my mind inseparable from http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-verify-your-identity/
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as was said about hruschev, 'его ушли'
mircea_popescu: Framedragger re automation angle - i dunno, i suppose varying amounts of elbow grease could be employed, entirely as a mechanical gearbox, in lieu of actual automation. just it doesn't fit in my head - the same people who wouldn't read ten words would then go through the motions, orders of magnitude more complex, of making screenshots etc ?
mircea_popescu: well, as appetite strikes. avocado never got old.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger the problem they face is that as they cannibalized language itself they're now stuck in a very lost world without any possibility of out of band
asciilifeform: as these folx tend to.
asciilifeform: (they, as everyone probably already guessed, get db queried one-at-a-time. to do anything else would result in a 50x more complicated phuctor.)
asciilifeform: as in, if it serves up http or https on any port, i want a snapshot
Framedragger: asciilifeform: as in, scan additional ports, you mean?
jurov: Should have converted them to gpg, as Framedragger did.
asciilifeform: (and not, as naively one might expect, to their ~actual~ customers as such)
asciilifeform: btw everyone possibly already knows this, but bugmakers refer to nsa et al as 'customers'
mircea_popescu: it wasn't some sort of grand "oh we shall pwn boxen" as such.
Framedragger: i mean in practical terms, of course, theoretically, but as in, would a canonical ssh agent eat it up
mircea_popescu: a key's a key, there's no "server key" as such.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: it is ~possible~ to use 0000...0 as ssh key..
Framedragger: can you even use an ssh server key as ssh client key (and yes i agree if it's easy to do, someone will have done it)
asciilifeform: aite, somewhere, there could be a maniac who configured his box for ssh ~login~ , and with same key as some such in phuctor.
asciilifeform: and they hate, yes, even music, in so far as it pertains to the non-beetles, rather how proverbial vampire hates the crucifix
mircea_popescu: in other news, as trump prepares to repeal obamawarming, the libertard senate seems set to repeal godwin's law.
deedbot: C2F3ACF258CE9D436FCD93995F7496EC4F0FF004 registered as vvande.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/vsMXn << not, as appearances might suggest, wholly unrelated: derps froth at the mouth that anyone might dare to play german conquest marches, 'I hope someone will inform their music authorities', 'I am usually very moderate about showcasing of the original information, but I don't think new performances should be encouraged!', etc.
asciilifeform: eh if farmer dies and cows escape into the desert, they will remain == as stupid as before, but ~undirectedly~
mircea_popescu: mod6 i dunno that as late as vietnam they had that many forwards like that. generally even the artillery reporters were small squad with co machine gun 3-4 rifles etc
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> (in ww2, the worst marksman always got the flamethrower. worst job, shit's heavy, you gotta get close etc) << oh no doubt. that's a rough job. like having a damn bomb on your back. next as bad is probably the radio guy.
mircea_popescu: d to a war, but they were dismissed as hysterical, mad, or fools, as is always the way, and as people who worry about Putin, Brexit and Trump are dismissed now. A little thing leads to an unstoppable destruction that could have been prevented if you’d listened and thought a bit."
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the socialist retards (preaching over at huff po) : "My point is that this is a cycle. It happens again and again, but as most people only have a 50-100 year historical perspective they don’t see that it’s happening again. As the events that led to the First World War unfolded, there were a few brilliant minds who started to warn that something big was wrong, that the web of treaties across Europe could lea
mircea_popescu: in the land of the hanno bocks (ie, http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ ) it is probably as unbelievable as it gets.
asciilifeform: as if it were a mega-mystery earlier.
mircea_popescu: i suppose if nothing else - zee germanz have now verified that indeed, the phuctor is actually connected and works as described.
asciilifeform: 'Lol this is easily the best "unhappen" yet. So as the story goes, a secret key that exists and is regularily updated since 2006 suddenly — but deliberately! — gets a shared factor in 2016, as part of a didactic exercise which consists of doing euclids and other calisthenics. As a sub-plot thickener, it is for the first time announced that it takes 11*10/2 operations to obtain a 600+ digit prime factor in Berlin, which is somewha ☟︎
asciilifeform: i have nfi, i did ping the d00d via email so as to rub nose in qntra thread, that's all for my end
mircea_popescu: anyway, apparently today in "nice story, bro" we have a "students are required as part of curricula to run 10^10 "eulers". because totally, nobody can do any math anywhere.
asciilifeform: given as the key does not appear to have publicly signed anything, at least in so far as i can see with naked eye, there is no physical way to distinguish this find from an elaborate troll
asciilifeform: i will add that the thing does not appear to reside on sks, though other items advertised as 'seclab' -- are
asciilifeform: (does not appear to be of any special form, in so far as i can presently tell, but is in fact prime by every test i've tried)
Framedragger: oh god. dns is defined using a shitload of RFCs. but easiest way to learn of low-level transport nuances is, well, wireshark. so, wiresharking and eating cake. at the very least this will end up as (possibly) useful website comment for future adventurers.
mircea_popescu: (likely the patch will come in the shape of a dnsmasq clone, which will handle stuff like "tld" as well as things like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-12#1566482 via settings etc) ☝︎☟︎