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mircea_popescu: total fucking casual-boner-archy that thing, and utterly unwatchable. i used to mock romanians a decade ago
as "o populatie cu mize mici" ie, a population with low stakes. but lawds have mercy, the hopes, aspirations, projects and projections of the contemporaneous ustard (stanford grad & waitress-journaho) barely cover a used bottlecap.
mircea_popescu: in which vein, /me watched a half hour of something last night, because i tried to do a christina applegate retrospective. holy shit that girl has been in all the shitty snl derivative crap. how do these idiots even live, how do they get out of bed ? that ben affleck imbecile, he's like baudoinia, blackening the walls of anywhere alcohol is customarily found. unfunny
as cancer, stupid
as broken shoelaces, ubiquitous
as a sac
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> why the fuck is va' fa'n culo spelled
as one word with a double f ? cosi fan' tutte is not cosiffantutte ? << ty fxd
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is va' fa'n culo spelled
as one word with a double f ? cosi fan' tutte is not cosiffantutte ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally i'd say the arrangement
as present is also the right thing. bot should send raw bytes ; wwwtron should send escape codes.
phf: for example in the original there's a byte sequence \xc3\xb0, it's a valid utf-8 for code point #240, which if it renders looks like `ð' and in html can be represented
as ð
jurov: ^ my aubergine came back
as raw bytes f0 9f 8d 86 but in the html log it is 🍆
mircea_popescu: i am persuaded phf is right : bot is sending raw bytes, log is displaying unicode points
as escape codes.
phf: nah, in the first case bot's sending raw bytes on the the wire (which are valid utf-8 for a bogus code point sequence), in the second case the raw bytes have been intrepreted
as code points and are sent
as html escape codes for code points.
phf: yeah it does, but in this case the byte sequence is untouched, because the original byte sequence is valid utf-8. the disparity seems to come from the fact that a111 sends utf-8 sequence, where's website renders it
as unicode code points.
jurov: does a111 keep
as-came-from-wire copy of logs? i'd recommend to.
mircea_popescu: but my same client does NOT misreport OTHER instances of "🍆"
as " �" when they are ~not~ spoken by a111
mircea_popescu: so : for ~some reason~ my client reports a111
as saying " �" whereas the webpage reports it
as saying "🍆"
phf: and the original sequence that ben_vulpes sent ~can~ be parsed
as valid utf-8, so it gets mapped to some code points and rendered a such.
phf: well, it isn't in a sense that ben_vulpes sent a sequence of bytes that can't be parsed
as valid utf-8
phf: the log website ~and the bot~ render everything
as unicode, because you can't mix multiple encodings in rendering. before rendering a decision needs to be made about the validity of original content. the validity check is "if this is not valid utf-8, then assume it's latin-1, in which case take latin-1 string and encode it
as utf-8"
phf: this happens because of the often discussed latin-1 fallback. "by convention" irc lines are interpreted
as "utf-8 and if that fails latin-1"
phf: mircea_popescu: you see above
as square with numbers because that's a unicode convention for missing font symbol
mircea_popescu: phf there seem to be 3 layers of manglizing. yours above i saw both
as a square with numbers, so i suspect your irc client fucks it up ; mine above is fucked up differently (looks like byte-interpreted rather than unicode) and then the scarfer/www displayer prints them out correctly but a111 reads them eggog'd.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-04 06:16 pete_dushenski: ^
as requested
a111: Logged on 2016-12-04 06:17 pete_dushenski: and don't even get me started on blowers. they're worse than scooty puffs
as far
as motorised sensitory offenses.
pete_dushenski: and don't even get me started on blowers. they're worse than scooty puffs
as far
as motorised sensitory offenses.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and the whole scam of "well they will listen if we run in front of them and try to guess which way they're headed and pretend to be pointing exactly that way ourselfes first so there nyah!" only goes so far. eventually they start going really stupid ways, such
as.
BingoBoingo: Nah, seems to just be shanty town built shoddily inside warehouse. Caught fire
as expedient housing tends to.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes
as opposed to bycicling, because car pooling is not enough. omygerd you are killing the planet and dolphins.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : the "complete record" of an unicode symbol is... 102 entries. most of which are boolean, and most of which are entirely haphazard randomness such
as "soft dotted ?" and "expands on NFD" etc.
BingoBoingo: The feminist divisions also serve
as useful sorting fabric for how beta is your male feminist.
ben_vulpes: relatedly, there are interesting fault lines at work in the left: anti-sex activists masquerading
as feminists (see the CoC mentioning "sexualized language") vs the rad-fems who are cooking a whole pile of wtf for the left's pet "feminists" on the topic of "but i love cock and babies and mothering and what precisely is wrong with that and no you chicks with dicks can't come to my moon party"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-03 23:21 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in re
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1515745 << we've completed tests and confirmed we can actually link ada code. i'm thinking, prolly the best way is to make an official and definitive tmsr-rsa ~in ada~
as a v root ? or hows's your general numeric thing coming along and more importantly what's it written in ?
mircea_popescu: jwzs and other just wanted tos, sam yagan (the edonkey guy who then make okcupid and who then engaged in that ridoinculous publicity stunt over eich's donating 1k to some dudes campaigning against gay marriage in california) is
as fine an example
as it gets.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in re
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-06#1515745 << we've completed tests and confirmed we can actually link ada code. i'm thinking, prolly the best way is to make an official and definitive tmsr-rsa ~in ada~
as a v root ? or hows's your general numeric thing coming along and more importantly what's it written in ?
☝︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: and re diamond train : the historical item worked
as such : that a coupla dozen businessmen paid for all of it, and then there were 5x that many people who didn't pay a dime that also went with it.
mats:
as if there aren't enough manpads in syria
as it is
mats:
as there appears to be so much consensus about us collapse
mats: nvm. gdp
as a measurement has only been around since near the end of the great depression
mircea_popescu:
as far
as taming computors, there's the most serene republic, and then there's the everyone else.
shinohai: I know of no other chan with such useful bots
as this one has.
mircea_popescu: no no, it makes sense in what it is. its implications though, are far reaching. even something
as simple
as "how strong is your hash"
mircea_popescu: yeah, there's gonna be a bit of overlap/restating agreement
as i go through the whole pile. sorry bout the department of redundancy department.
mircea_popescu: if you stop showing up, and some other dude for some reason ends up with your nick, such
as through asking freenode for it say, he won't be able to voice himself - which encourages him to get a "fresh" nick.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 21:20 trinque: if it is better to forget, lets make that explicit. when/why, and not just
as an artifact of being built on shoddy computing infrastructure.
mod6: I agree there too. When you sign a vpatch, you're saying, "I, have read (or wrote) this, and I place my seal upon it
as it is correct and right." Not, "mod6 wrote this thing, I rate him a '+1 Cool Guy' for effort."
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> and herein included - all my ratings. you can not at some point come and say "X scammed me of a btc and you had him rated +1 therefore you owe me some cents" << while reading, this is what I was thinking too. We've seen many times where someone reputable has a positive rating for X, and then later X scams out. These ratings can't act
as a guarantee; which would place the rater in some leg
mircea_popescu: and we can have nice things such
as fixed time keygen, such
as "key generation takes 24 hours - come back tomorrow".
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 12:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform since we're on this btw, the way i want tmsr-rsa key generation to work is
as follows : a contains a number of entropy bytes specified by user in tmsr-rsa.conf read whenever tmsr-rsa.conf specifies (such
as urandom); b contains a base-tmsr string specified by user. c = base-tmsr(a).b ; p = nextprime(cut(sha512(c),257)) ; process is repeated for q = nextprime (cut(sha512(c'),258));
mircea_popescu: one particular angle would be that if we generate republic-rsa keys (see
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524210 eg)
as opposed to koch-rsa keys then yes eulora server will have to dump its privately maintained wot to deedbot periodically ; but on the upside we get very cheap transition to the new format while maintaining all the backwards compatibility one could want.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: basically this will include a (hopefully improved) rsa implementation
as part of the client. the details still very much in air.
mircea_popescu: you will have to have ~a~ key online
as a matter of course for the client to connect ; but it doesn't have to be THE key in any sense.
ben_vulpes: rewriting things is my fave. giant pile of ones own poop to shovel, and at the end of the day nothing should have changed
as far
as non codemonkeys can tell.
mircea_popescu: no, i actually searched for "turbulent flow"
as opposed to "turbulence"
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 22:26 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576486 << this is ~rank nonsense. the closest approximation is the west, where women were traded for tobacco, or every other colonisation event. where, each and every time, women started
as merchandise.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576558 << well
as it turns out, ratings are a lot closer to sexual intercourse than previously realised ; but in any sense what i meant was the point of reference (ie, i will fuck this curvaceous lady
as the body presents itself and do business with fa9fblabla, which are the two presentations of the supposed same but otherwise uncapturable spirit). i didn't mean business BY the keys when i s
☝︎ mircea_popescu: there's two reasons one does not wish to be cavallier with signed matter. one is purely technological,
as discussed briefly above, but the more important one is ecology of the republic of the mind. you wish to make THE STRICT MINIMUM of signed statements you can get by with AND NOT A SINGLE MORE.
mircea_popescu: anyway. merchant law, which incidentally i advise all curious minds to review, not only long predates civil law or the british mandaciousa attempts to enact a systematized "common law"
as older than it was - but actually informed all legal work of the states. they basically stole the merchant's code much like the french stole the templar's wealth.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576528 << they have to. there is no "one" answer. suppose the case where i rate someone X
as a 3 because i dunno, we go fishing. suppose A asks me about X because he's contemplating going hunting, and B asks me about X because he's contemplating playing chess.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: no whatever infrastructure development fund, i have nfi, the whole thing's vague
as fake hair.
mircea_popescu: trinque what do you mean by fucking up the db in that context
as something else was being contemplated when i said it ?
mircea_popescu: because we've decided to live in the world
as it is rather than wait for someone else (who ?) to make a better one
a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 19:49 asciilifeform:
as in, you should be able to verify it solely by possessing the rating + the pubkey of the rater.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no valuable information that would be lost if you fucked up the db today and we had to re-do it. just inconvenience to a lot of live people, but it's of the nature of "tee hee i garbled everyone's shopping lists
as found on the fridge" not of the "tee hee i burned all extant aramaic manuscripts".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nothing prevents me from putting in ratings
as deeds ; nor anyone else. yet few do.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-02#1576521 << they are ?! why ? i have no intention for my rating of X to be opposable to me. it is information i provide free of charge and on an
as-is basis, literally saying "if you're trying to eval X i may be able to help". it would be the height of impudence for y to demand something on the basis of "i have this here signed thing".
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-12-02 19:39 trinque: if ratings were this kind of material I could chatter them to anyone interested
as they are received, and conceivably "only chatter me things about the L2 of <key>"
trinque: whereas I see them
as distinct; wot is the history of my past and present gossipd connections, and indications of what I thought of them
phf: for me wot is a partial externalization of a hawala network and
as far
as -1,0,1 is concerned ~perhaps~ indicates prevalent opinions among the people whose opinion i value, but by convention only. in this sense the wot follows the lords and not the other way around. it has some practical use like serving
as a door bouncer and ostensibly letting newbs know who to talk to.
trinque: if it is better to forget, lets make that explicit. when/why, and not just
as an artifact of being built on shoddy computing infrastructure.
☟︎ trinque: it is also not necessary to say that because ratings exist in the past I must care about them
as much
as those more recent
trinque: I see this
as the meaning of a rating already. "This exists"
phf: i think it's entirely petty and pointless to use wot
as a weaponized shunning
phf: ~i~ see it
as an equivalent of signing and stamping every page of notebook "for integrity"