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asciilifeform: thread crosstalk
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think he's the comic d00d
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect he has an ion accelerator, no
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: i tried to look at the high res samples on your www, but found only http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875711 ☝︎
asciilifeform: SeanRiddle: also what res photo can you take ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://pbfcomics.com/comics/harlots-web/ << some are notbad
asciilifeform: ( dunno if 'bug' or simply no one yet made variant which knows how )
asciilifeform: trinque: i can't speak for deedbot, but the ircbot code i put pehbot on doesn't autoreconnect at all
asciilifeform: !!up SeanRiddle
asciilifeform: which
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875702 ☝︎
asciilifeform: amberglint's fella
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's the alleged ic rev d00d
asciilifeform: hm deedbot jammed or wat
asciilifeform: !!up SeanRiddle
asciilifeform: was transparently http://pbfcomics.com/comics/now-showing/ ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: rright but moar or less unperfumed with pretense
asciilifeform: ^ for some reason was censored from 'dvd' disc ver., iirc
asciilifeform: (aladdin)
asciilifeform: 'where they cut off yer lips! if they dun like yer smile! it's barbaric, but hey it's home!'
asciilifeform: ( and ran out of folklore to pillage )
asciilifeform: after that they went to '3d'
asciilifeform: iirc that was last one i saw ( and the only 1 in orig lang )
asciilifeform: hey i even managed to see disneys. a coupla, with the trad ru dubbing translator with clothspin on his nose going mmmm
asciilifeform: the notion that sumbody might turn away from 'modernity' consciously, rather than because alzheimer patient, apparently is a bridge too far for some folx ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's at least the 5th time i got that q, nearly lost count
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876229 was lulzy, incidentally ☝︎
asciilifeform: i pictured zx2c4 as also young, but i have nfi specifically
asciilifeform: it was quite similar, imho, to the gabriel laddel fella. clearly there was 'somebody home' in the crankcase, but under a thick haze of substances and detritus from indiscriminate suction of ??? from heathendom. 'salvation of the drowning is work for the selfsame drowning', what can i say.
asciilifeform: i gave ~hour to attempt to cure. in retrospect it was folly, made 0 dent.
asciilifeform: folx ~do~ on occasion get out of e.g. the bottle. but ~this~ appears to be incurable, medicine is powerless.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i still can't make heads or tails of wtf was in that d00d's head. shows symptoms of some kinda maths education. but omfg the 'cd-r brain'.
asciilifeform: ( and , in fact ~to the credit of~ koch, at least the latter didn't fuck about with 'proofs' )
asciilifeform: approx on par with e.g. koch.
asciilifeform: but (spoiler!) it aint actually readable.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well, asciilifeform is not usually the 'Пастернака не читал, но осуждаю'(tm)(r) type. so yes tried to read. ☟︎
asciilifeform: tried, for instance, to actually read zx2c4's hairball, ran outa barfbags
asciilifeform: another day in the lulzroom.
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: diana_coman: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2051&cpage=1#comment-19756 and thx !
asciilifeform: ( there are 'lifers' in ru, typically 5+ corpses on ea., but they typically have life expectancy of ~7y . 1 survived to parole age last yr, it was enuff of an oddity that it was taken up in the fishwraps as newz )
asciilifeform: while in usg reich, effectively life sentence for ~errything, at least if yer white , is ~standard
asciilifeform: in current-day ru, as i understand you need repeated (1 corpse generally not suffice) wetwork to merit >decade
asciilifeform: jailers pull'em down with hooks, so they get rebuilt regularly.
asciilifeform: ( technically 'horse' is the spitball, 'road' is the rope, but again in eng world whoknows, maybe whole tradition died/never born )
asciilifeform: ( in ru variant, moar laborious cuz their setup tends to look moar like https://www.tyurem.net/album/images/narva_55_jpg.jpg -- iron grate sorta like on modern 'central ac' duct, gotta be pried apart a little with sumthing )
asciilifeform: the procedure for making the 'road' go is quite elaborate and much dwelled on in ru prison lit. ( gotta pull apart a sock, weave rope, make 'fishing rod' out of paper + bread glue etc , then run the 'horse' )
asciilifeform: road runs mainly at night, for obv reason.
asciilifeform: d00d whose cot is by the grate has the duty of 'keeping the road', as they called it (again nfi in english world what it is called there, much less in spanish empire)
asciilifeform: look specifically in http://archive.is/M4NEr -- the center 2 cells on bottom 2 rows are linked with horses
asciilifeform: one hooks up wads of paper with note , like spitball in kindergarten, to'em
asciilifeform: ( in ru world they're кони , 'horses' )
asciilifeform: y'know, between the adjacent cell grates
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo what do you call in english those strings ?
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-387.0-393.1067 << and.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702334 << see also e.g. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876362 << i'll admit, i kept half-expecting him to actually read a ch of ffa and go 'hmm... maybe i should throw out my c hairball and mecha-proofisms' but of course no dice. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman ! i will sew it into ch14.
asciilifeform: https://github.com/project-everest/hacl-star/blob/master/code/bignum/Hacl.Spec.Bignum.Fproduct.fst << holy fuq, the sort of liquishit that d00d's links offered as proofolade... picture trying to ~read~ this. ( and there's 9000 of'em )
asciilifeform: ваше слово, товарищ маузер! (tm)
asciilifeform bbl,meat,and will come back on console with actual kbd lol
asciilifeform: *ffa
asciilifeform: afaik all of ffz outside of fz_io , is arbitrary bytebitness and wordbyteness -clean..
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/fz_io__adb.htm#29_14 << subj. presumes existence of 'nibbles'
asciilifeform: btw , q for ffa readership, can anybody think of a way to make the digit slider routine non8bitbyte-clean ? ( beyond having ffa eat its pistol on boot if it finds itself on such machine, lol )
asciilifeform: i'ma bet was not acctd for in the 'proof'isms..
asciilifeform: ( longtime tuned-in folx, will know what irons )
asciilifeform: let's bounce the rubble, also.. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876304 >> ftr i have iron right here where this will bomb, cuz byte not 8bit there. ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( it's a not-terrible numerics schoolb00k , ftr )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876333 << dun seem to be in the logs, possibly was in a private letter from sumbody.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: nighty
asciilifeform: it's sitting in a 3ring here in my tortureroom for whatever reason.
asciilifeform: possibly was sumbodyelse ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc you recced it last time
asciilifeform: yep
asciilifeform: html concordance.
asciilifeform: you can browse whole ch13 at http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/hypertext/ch13/ffa_calc__adb.htm , if lazy
asciilifeform: zx2c4: see ch1
asciilifeform: it is result of the specific mathematical approach taken. where code must remain SMALL and NO branching on cryptobits, other than death on div0, is permitted. no memory indexing on cryptobits, either.
asciilifeform: tho it does helpfully give pascal-style pass by ref, to avoid pointerisms
asciilifeform: no magical feature of ada
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=49 << convenient link.
asciilifeform: consider to read the series.
asciilifeform: zx2c4: with bare hands.
asciilifeform: i can show this because the inputs , for given size, literally do not affect the program branch flow.
asciilifeform: consider, zx2c4 , i can show that nuffin in my arithm routines can overflow a buffer. even if you were to turn ada's overflow checks off. without any complicated tooling.
asciilifeform: and i could continue..
asciilifeform: ... or that the #define ULT(a, b) ((a ^ ((a ^ b) | ((a - b) ^ b))) >> (sizeof(a) * 8 - 1)) macro dun turn to barf in the preprocessor on acct of some esoteric beard shaving from dennis richie ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: does your proof demonstrate that none of them can overflow, regardless of what happens , say ?
asciilifeform: what i see in the link, is a buncha c code, with pointerisms
asciilifeform: lessee the proof ?
asciilifeform: how much does it weigh ?
asciilifeform: can you, for the one for that routine you linked ?
asciilifeform: if you can follow the proof by hand
asciilifeform: it dun verify jack shit. is machine barf. just like the raw output of your compiler, except less meaningful
asciilifeform: whereas 'here is my z3 proof' is typically published for cachet among haskellist co-religionists
asciilifeform: or chalk board contents
asciilifeform: i dun publish my 'derive' barf
asciilifeform: then why do you advertise and publish the 'proofs' ?
asciilifeform: so like paper ?